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Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries
Reply #240 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 12:10pm

Couldn't happen to a nicer set of industries!

Kinda reminds you of Uncle Ivan and the Russian Sex Trade: -

Все хорошо, Товарич - дядя Иван заботится о паспорте и тратит деньги, чтобы поселить тебя в хорошем доме с хорошим человеком в Ау-Штраль-и-а! Звучит хорошо? Все, что нужно, - это два, может быть, три года вы поработаете на дядю Ивана, легкое сопровождение работы, навещающее бизнесменов и политиков - отвлекитесь от стресса на работе, да? Только руководящая работа - не гадость - ваш новый муж потребовал только дать дяде Ивану задаток на стоимость пересылки в Au-Stral-i-a и позволить вам поработать несколько коротких лет, и все хорошо !!! Подписываемся здесь!

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Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries
Reply #241 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:47pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2020 at 9:37pm:

What do you think that means Gandalf?

Gee I don't know FD - maybe exactly what it says? That there is widespread non-compliance of workplace laws by these employees? You know, in direct contradiction to what you claimed:

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the farmers are obeying the law

That is not what is actually says Gandalf. Read it again.

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So you support a program that is failing in it's duty?

No government program has ever managed to eradicate human nature. But only a self absorbed, deluded unionist would use this to justify killing an entire industry and way of life.

But thanks for finally conceding the unions are out to destroy.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80333 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries Reply #242 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:09pm Go - talk with the backpackers as you talked with the Muslims...
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47481 At my desk.	Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries Reply #243 - Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:13pm Backpacking isn't a religion Grapps. I've done it myself. And fruit picking.
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Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries
Reply #244 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 12:14am

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 7:13pm:

Backpacking isn't a religion Grapps. I've done it myself. And fruit picking.

Islam isn't a religion, either - it is a governance lifestyle... for some a choice.. for others not a choice.. as we see currently in CCP China.... and Australia... et al ....

Do you see the comparison? It is one of approach rather than of content....

You need to look carefully at separation of church and state.......

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Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries
Reply #245 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 7:33am

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:47pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2020 at 9:37pm:

What do you think that means Gandalf?

Gee I don't know FD - maybe exactly what it says? That there is widespread non-compliance of workplace laws by these employees? You know, in direct contradiction to what you claimed:

fd said:
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the farmers are obeying the law

That is not what is actually says Gandalf. Read it again.

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So you support a program that is failing in it's duty?

No government program has ever managed to eradicate human nature. But only a self absorbed, deluded unionist would use this to justify killing an entire industry and way of life.

But thanks for finally conceding the unions are out to destroy.

Not conceding at all ........ you just keep lying.

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Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries
Reply #247 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 1:40pm

freediver wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 6:47pm:

That is not what is actually says Gandalf. Read it again.

Yeah it is. Here's the exact quote from the article:

A large-scale 2018 report by the Fair Work Ombudsman found more than half the businesses audited were not complying with workplace laws and about 30 per cent had underpaid their workers.

whereas you said:

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the farmers are obeying the law

Can you explain how the article does not directly refute this unsubstantiated claim you made?

Has grappler not been right all along - that the unions intervention here is really only about making employers obey the law, rather than your silly claim of wanting to destroy the industry?

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Reply #248 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 6:55pm

Try to keep up Gandalf. How do you get from this:

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A large-scale 2018 report by the Fair Work Ombudsman found more than half the businesses audited were not complying with workplace laws and about 30 per cent had underpaid their workers.

To this:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2020 at 9:37pm:

What do you think that means Gandalf?

Gee I don't know FD - maybe exactly what it says? That there is widespread non-compliance of workplace laws by these employees?

???

Now is your chance to demonstrate your skills at logic for us Gandalf.

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Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries
Reply #249 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 7:46pm

freediver wrote on Sep 18^th, 2020 at 6:55pm:

Try to keep up Gandalf. How do you get from this:

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A large-scale 2018 report by the Fair Work Ombudsman found more than half the businesses audited were not complying with workplace laws and about 30 per cent had underpaid their workers.

To this:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 17^th, 2020 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Sep 16^th, 2020 at 9:37pm:

What do you think that means Gandalf?

Gee I don't know FD - maybe exactly what it says? That there is widespread non-compliance of workplace laws by these employees?

???

Now is your chance to demonstrate your skills at logic for us Gandalf.

Is over half of audited employers "not complying with workplace laws" = "widespread non-compliance of workplace laws" logical enough for you FD?

Are you actually nitpicking over my typo "employees" instead of "employers"? I honestly don't know. Thats literally all I can think of.

How about you spell out to me in plain English what your actual point is?

Are you saying that you BS claim that farmers are obeying the law is not directly contradicted by the cited article?

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Reply #250 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 7:49pm

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Is over half of audited employers "not complying with workplace laws" = "widespread non-compliance of workplace laws" logical enough for you FD?

It is a logical fallacy.

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Are you actually nitpicking over my typo "employees" instead of "employers"?

No. I am "nitpicking" your glaring failure at basic logic.

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How about you spell out to me in plain English what your actual point is?

That there is no logical connection between what it actually says and your 'interpretation' of what it actually says.

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Are you saying that you BS claim that farmers are obeying the law is not directly contradicted by the cited article?

Would you accuse me of lying if I said that Australian Muslims obey the law?

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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries Reply #251 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 8:04pm freediver wrote on Sep 18^th, 2020 at 7:49pm: It is a logical fallacy. You'll have to explain that to me. No cryptic bullshit, just a plain English answer please.
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Re: Unions want to kill non-Union industries
Reply #253 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 8:39pm

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean FD.

Am I supposed to say "yeah its legit"? A bit like "all muslims support genocide" is apparently totally legit? Are you saying the cited audit is flawed in some way? Thats got nothing to do with a logical fallacy on my part though.

Can we perhaps get back to how farmers ripping off their employees by not complying with the law - somehow doesn't contradict your BS claim that farmers are obeying the law?

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Reply #254 - Sep 18^th, 2020 at 9:25pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 18^th, 2020 at 8:39pm:

I have no idea what that is supposed to mean FD.

Am I supposed to say "yeah its legit"? A bit like "all muslims support genocide" is apparently totally legit? Are you saying the cited audit is flawed in some way? Thats got nothing to do with a logical fallacy on my part though.

Can we perhaps get back to how farmers ripping off their employees by not complying with the law - somehow doesn't contradict your BS claim that farmers are obeying the law?

Are there no muslims actively working on the destruction of Western democracy? Yes, there are.
What is their ideological motivation? Islam.
Who is funding them? Muslims.
Which Muslims?

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