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Reply #690 - Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:19pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 5:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 2:39pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 1:18pm:
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I am amused whenever you attempt to attack me and other non-Islamophobic posters.  All I have asked for, is that ordinary, everyday, peaceful, law-abiding Muslims get a fair deal and a chance to prove their value as citizens.  Nothing more.  Yes, there are some aspects of Islam that are reprehensible just as there are some aspects of Christianity.  Aspects which you refuse to acknowledge.  Aspects which you immediately disown yet you won't allow Muslims to do the same to Islamists.  Funny that, hey, Moses?  You are a zealot and you use your zealotry to persecute Muslims, no matter how personally innocent of the crimes you persecute them with.  Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


Christians, hindus, atheists are persecuted and murdered by muslims all over the world. For allah, jihad, mohammed. They murder cartoonists, translators, concert goers, christmas shoppers, ordinary passers-by.

What are the 'ordinary, everyday, peaceful muslims' doing about it? Nothing - other than immediately claim victimhood if anyone looks at them askance for doing NOTHING to reign in their jihadis.



Milllions of people, ordinary, innocent people have been killed by Christians. What did the Christians do about it?  Did they obey their savior's words and disown them and excommunicate them and throw them out of their church(es)?   Nope.

So take your words and apply it to your fellow Christians, Soren.  When the Christians take responsibility for what their fellow Christians have done, then you can point your bony little finger at the Muslims.  OK?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

When was that, shitfer?

For a supposed 'twained in histowy' bozo, you starlingly, idiotically, moronically ignore history.

But then you are Bbwian, the prince of idiots.


Whether it occurred a few years or a few decades ago is immaterial, Soren.   When Christians own up to the sins that their number have committed, then we can talk.  Stop pointing your bony finger at other people merely because they are different to what you think they should be.  In reality, they are very similar to Christians or any other group.  Some have committed some heinous crimes.  Most are innocent.  Time you learnt to differentiate instead of persecuting them all, collectively.  Tsk, tsk.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




Oh? So history is immaterial!! Everything is both different and similar, as long as you can say idiotic and ignorant and banal things.

As for apologies: https://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/10/pope-francis-apologizes-for-churchs-colonia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apologies_made_by_Pope_John_Paul_II

You are ignorant and stupid, Bbwian.  When will you apologise for THAT?


Catholics are only a part of the total Christian population.  Indeed, many Protestants continue their hatred of Catholicism and Popery and refuse to acknowledge it's role as the "one, true and apostolic Church", Soren.  Why does the Catholic church continue to deny the role their clergy and teachings play in Paedophilia?  Then we have the Lutherans, your mob?  How about the Anglicans, the Calvinists, the Eastern Orthodoxes, the Coptics?  All have committed more or less the same sins.  Where are their apologies, Mmmm?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



What are those sins and which ones were not committed by people of every other creed, including Muslims.

In your great and relentless stupidity you assign human failings and sins only to Christians as if no-one else is fallible and 'sinning'. You do this, Chief Sitfer, because only Christians identify these failings as sins. As if they should be flawless once they identify human failings and sins.
Muslims, just to take a random example, never acknowledge Mohammed's pedophilia because they do not think it's wrong for a 50 year old to lavish his lust on a 9 year old girl. They never acknowledge that it is wrong to enslave people, to rape captives and infidels, etc, etc.

Your Muslim pals are not innocent until they face these hideous sins of Mohammed and Islam. It's no use you saying that they have not personally done anything like it - you accuse Christians indiscriminately even though they HAVE acknowledged and DO acknowledge they failings and sins all the time.

You are too stupid to realise that you are jumping in and out of criticising Christianity and the clergy, as if they were the same thing. Or are you a dishonest shitfer who deliberately muddles the distinction? Either way, you do not make any arguments that, if applied to your stance, would not see your own arguments going down the shithole of hypocrisy and dishonesty.

Why?
Because you are a dishonest hypochrite. The nuns who bollocked you tried to make an honest man out of you. They failed.


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Reply #691 - Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:36pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 9:38pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 21st, 2021 at 9:34pm:
Milllions of people, ordinary, innocent people have been killed by Christians. What did the Christians do about it?  Did they obey their savior's words and disown them and excommunicate them and throw them out of their church(es)?   Nope.

So take your words and apply it to your fellow Christians, Soren.  When the Christians take responsibility for what their fellow Christians have done, then you can point your bony little finger at the Muslims.  OK?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



The Christians got over their Inquisition times.
Still - the church never gave back all the land they stole from people
who were burnt at the stake.


https://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1676.cfm





The Roman Catholic Inquisition was one of the greatest disasters ever to befall mankind. In the name of Jesus Christ, Catholic priests mounted an enormous effort to kill all "heretics" in Europe and Britain. Heretics is defined whichever way Rome wanted it defined; it ranged from people who disagreed with official policy, to Hermetic Philosophers [Black Magick Practitioners], to Jews, to Witches, and to the Protestant reformers.

Slaughtering one's enemies is clearly rotten spiritual fruit. During the early part of His ministry, Jesus was approached by two of His disciples -- James and John -- who had just returned from preaching the Gospel message throughout parts of Israel. These two disciples were upset, for some entire towns had refused to even hear their message; they asked the Lord:

"Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?" [Luke 9:54]

Jesus was horrified. He replied:

"You do not know of what sort of spirit you are, for the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them from the penalty of eternal death." [Luke 9:55-56; Parallel KJV/Amplified Bible Commentary]

Let us repeat that most pertinent phrase: "the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives".

Nowhere in Holy Scripture did Jesus ever slaughter anyone who disagreed with him, nor did He ever advocate any of his followers doing so. Neither does any Apostle give this command to the Church later in the New Testament.

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Reply #692 - Jan 23rd, 2021 at 9:39am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:19pm:
John 8:7 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy

So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?

That',  and eyerolling  is the extent of your Doctor of Divinity??  You wasted your mail order money, Bbwian.



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Reply #693 - Jan 23rd, 2021 at 10:07am
 
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 9:39am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:19pm:
John 8:7 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy

So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?

That',  and eyerolling  is the extent of your Doctor of Divinity??  You wasted your mail order money, Bbwian.


Seems to show I have a greater understanding of what the Bible is saying than you do, Soren.  Yes, when you have no sin you can throw that first stone but until then, it is better to stay quiet, don't you think?  There are too many episodes of Christianity from it's long history where it did commit it's own share of sins.   It seems a shame that Christians don't seem to care about what Christ said, hey?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #694 - Jan 23rd, 2021 at 2:56pm
 
Christ was saying that to physically stone the woman to death would be hypocrisy, if the person who was doing the stoning was also a sinner.

He was not saying people should not object to adultery or any other iniquitous deed.

So yes people who want to actually kill the muslims who are raping torturing and slaughtering innocent people, should themselves  not be sinners.

It is entirely acceptable to criticize, jeer at, sneer at, call for the denunciation of islam at at all times by Christians.

Christians are told to reject and shun evil at every turn also, it is their duty.

The mealy mouthed apolgist for islam is once again lying to protect the present day atrocities of muslims, as they rape torture and slaughter innocent men women and children as decreed by islam / qur'an.

The Bible predicts that a spirit of evil followed by one quarter of the people, know as death will sweep across the globe.

islam followed by one quarter of the people on earth, known as a death cult, is sweeping across the globe in the guise of refugees from their wars with each other, right now.

The Bible predicts that a power / authority that beheads people will be on the rampage in the last days, this authority has a mark to buy and sell.

muslims are always beheading innocent people, muslims/islam has halal certification to buy and sell, right now.

The leftards of the west are 100% behind islam/muslims in their quest to once again have the islamic caliphate.

muslims / leftards are the duo of evil who are the enemy of truth and spiritual peace, they are a millstone around the neck of civilization, right now.

The Bible told us it will happen.

We see the proof of it on this board right now.

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Reply #695 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 9:53am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 10:07am:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 9:39am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:19pm:
John 8:7 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy

So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?

That',  and eyerolling  is the extent of your Doctor of Divinity??  You wasted your mail order money, Bbwian.


Seems to show I have a greater understanding of what the Bible is saying than you do, Soren.  Yes, when you have no sin you can throw that first stone but until then, it is better to stay quiet, don't you think?  There are too many episodes of Christianity from it's long history where it did commit it's own share of sins.   It seems a shame that Christians don't seem to care about what Christ said, hey?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?


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Reply #696 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 11:08am
 

The leftards of the west are 100% behind islam/muslims in their quest to once again have the islamic caliphate?
Putting aside for now the question of you not providing anything like a precise definition of your favourite term ‘leftards’ has it ever crossed your addled brain a careful reading of the New Testament reveals Christ was himself very left leaning?
Or are you suffering the all too common US evangelical delusion wealth is God’s reward for hard work?
No doubt you’ve figured how to squeeze the top 2% of US billionairs through the eye of that needle.
Matthew Ch :19 V : 23 - 24.
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Reply #697 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:13pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 9:53am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 10:07am:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 9:39am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:19pm:
John 8:7 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy

So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?

That',  and eyerolling  is the extent of your Doctor of Divinity??  You wasted your mail order money, Bbwian.


Seems to show I have a greater understanding of what the Bible is saying than you do, Soren.  Yes, when you have no sin you can throw that first stone but until then, it is better to stay quiet, don't you think?  There are too many episodes of Christianity from it's long history where it did commit it's own share of sins.   It seems a shame that Christians don't seem to care about what Christ said, hey?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?


Why aren't you ask that question of the Christians around, Soren?  Afraid of the answers you might get?  We are told that Christians do what Christ told them to do.  Are you suggesting that was a lie and they do what they want instead?  Ask Moses for an answer...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #698 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:23pm
 
I very much doubt that Christ would have supported muslims and islam if either had existed in His day.

Christians are told to renounce and shun evil, they are also told not to tempt God.

Accepting islam would definitely be tempting God, accepting islam is not rejecting and shunning evil, it is whole heartedly embracing satanism.

islam is founded on thieving, lies, rape, torture and mass murder, islam promotes these atrocities as being sacred duties for muslims.

Why a smokescreen to try and take the attention away from the depravities of islam, today the 21st century?

Why all the leftard crapola trying to hide and shield the filth and depravity that islam is right now 2021, the 21st century?

We see muslims committing human sacrifice on a daily basis around the globe, not Christians, not Jews, not Hindus, not Buddhists, not anybody else, only muslims are forever raping torturing and slaughtering innocent men women and children, in order to appease a reinvented pagan moon god allah and his three daughters in the qur'an.

Why do sick leftards want to force everybody to accept and embrace pagan islam with all its' inherent satanism?

The Bible foretold that evil will sweep across the globe in the last days.

Right in front of us we see the muslims and the leftards of political west, forming an alliance and working overtime to bring the prophecies to fruition.

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Reply #699 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:48pm
 
Ayn Marx wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 11:08am:
The leftards of the west are 100% behind islam/muslims in their quest to once again have the islamic caliphate?
Putting aside for now the question of you not providing anything like a precise definition of your favourite term ‘leftards’ has it ever crossed your addled brain a careful reading of the New Testament reveals Christ was himself very left leaning?
Or are you suffering the all too common US evangelical delusion wealth is God’s reward for hard work?
No doubt you’ve figured how to squeeze the top 2% of US billionairs through the eye of that needle.
Matthew Ch :19 V : 23 - 24.

You want a definition of Left - but you simply declare Christ as 'very lefty' and stupudlg frame him in terms of teleenvagelism.

Apart from the anachronism of labelling him a lefty 1800 years before the idea was introduced.
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Reply #700 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:51pm
 
JBrian Ross wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 9:53am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 10:07am:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 9:39am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:19pm:
John 8:7 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy

So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?

That',  and eyerolling  is the extent of your Doctor of Divinity??  You wasted your mail order money, Bbwian.


Seems to show I have a greater understanding of what the Bible is saying than you do, Soren.  Yes, when you have no sin you can throw that first stone but until then, it is better to stay quiet, don't you think?  There are too many episodes of Christianity from it's long history where it did commit it's own share of sins.   It seems a shame that Christians don't seem to care about what Christ said, hey?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?


Why aren't you ask that question of the Christians around, Soren?  Afraid of the answers you might get?  We are told that Christians do what Christ told them to do.  Are you suggesting that was a lie and they do what they want instead?  Ask Moses for an answer...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Ask Christians why you demand that they give everyone else a free pass and especially not be critical of Islam?

They know the answer, there is even a very long thread about it: because you are a spineless apologist for Islam and a misrepresenter of Islam but especially of Christianity.

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Reply #701 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 5:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:51pm:
JBrian Ross wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 9:53am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 10:07am:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 9:39am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:19pm:
John 8:7 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy

So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?

That',  and eyerolling  is the extent of your Doctor of Divinity??  You wasted your mail order money, Bbwian.


Seems to show I have a greater understanding of what the Bible is saying than you do, Soren.  Yes, when you have no sin you can throw that first stone but until then, it is better to stay quiet, don't you think?  There are too many episodes of Christianity from it's long history where it did commit it's own share of sins.   It seems a shame that Christians don't seem to care about what Christ said, hey?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?


Why aren't you ask that question of the Christians around, Soren?  Afraid of the answers you might get?  We are told that Christians do what Christ told them to do.  Are you suggesting that was a lie and they do what they want instead?  Ask Moses for an answer...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Ask Christians why you demand that they give everyone else a free pass and especially not be critical of Islam?

They know the answer, there is even a very long thread about it: because you are a spineless apologist for Islam and a misrepresenter of Islam but especially of Christianity.


*SIGH*  How easily you always lapse into ad hominem debate rather than actually address what has been said, Soren.  Rather than answer the question, you run off and start personally insulting your interlocutor.  Why not ask your question of the Christians on the board, why am I responsible for what they say or believe?  Tsk, tsk,   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #702 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 5:37pm
 
moses wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:23pm:
I very much doubt that Christ would have supported muslims and islam if either had existed in His day.

Christians are told to renounce and shun evil, they are also told not to tempt God.

Accepting islam would definitely be tempting God, accepting islam is not rejecting and shunning evil, it is whole heartedly embracing satanism.

islam is founded on thieving, lies, rape, torture and mass murder, islam promotes these atrocities as being sacred duties for muslims.

Why a smokescreen to try and take the attention away from the depravities of islam, today the 21st century?

Why all the leftard crapola trying to hide and shield the filth and depravity that islam is right now 2021, the 21st century?

We see muslims committing human sacrifice on a daily basis around the globe, not Christians, not Jews, not Hindus, not Buddhists, not anybody else, only muslims are forever raping torturing and slaughtering innocent men women and children, in order to appease a reinvented pagan moon god allah and his three daughters in the qur'an.

Why do sick leftards want to force everybody to accept and embrace pagan islam with all its' inherent satanism?

The Bible foretold that evil will sweep across the globe in the last days.

Right in front of us we see the muslims and the leftards of political west, forming an alliance and working overtime to bring the prophecies to fruition.

Falling into place?


You've never been a sinner, have you, Moses, or is it that you have?  I suspect the later.  Tsk, tsk, when you have redeemed yourself come back and talk to us, OK?  Until then you remain a lone voice out there in the wilderness.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #703 - Jan 24th, 2021 at 8:50pm
 
GBrian Ross wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 5:32pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:51pm:
JBrian Ross wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 1:13pm:
Frank wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 9:53am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 10:07am:
Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2021 at 9:39am:
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2021 at 7:19pm:
John 8:7 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Cheesy Cheesy

So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?

That',  and eyerolling  is the extent of your Doctor of Divinity??  You wasted your mail order money, Bbwian.


Seems to show I have a greater understanding of what the Bible is saying than you do, Soren.  Yes, when you have no sin you can throw that first stone but until then, it is better to stay quiet, don't you think?  There are too many episodes of Christianity from it's long history where it did commit it's own share of sins.   It seems a shame that Christians don't seem to care about what Christ said, hey?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


So no criticism of Islam because of the first stone verse? Really? Muslims - and everyone else -  get a free pass whatever they do because of that verse and one about the other cheek?


Why aren't you ask that question of the Christians around, Soren?  Afraid of the answers you might get?  We are told that Christians do what Christ told them to do.  Are you suggesting that was a lie and they do what they want instead?  Ask Moses for an answer...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Ask Christians why you demand that they give everyone else a free pass and especially not be critical of Islam?

They know the answer, there is even a very long thread about it: because you are a spineless apologist for Islam and a misrepresenter of Islam but especially of Christianity.


*SIGH*  How easily you always lapse into ad hominem debate rather than actually address what has been said, Soren.  Rather than answer the question, you run off and start personally insulting your interlocutor.  Why not ask your question of the Christians on the board, why am I responsible for what they say or believe?  Tsk, tsk,   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes 



So Christians must not criticise anyone one unless they are themselves pure and innocent (even though nobody is) - but muslims and spineless apologists like you can do and say anything because in your spinelessness and 'understanding', criticism is stoning but you are not a Christian.

No wonder you are dismised as a mentally negligible, spineless apologist and a liar.




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Reply #704 - Jan 25th, 2021 at 9:53am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jan 24th, 2021 at 5:37pm:
You've never been a sinner, have you, Moses, or is it that you have?  I suspect the later.  Tsk, tsk, when you have redeemed yourself come back and talk to us, OK?  Until then you remain a lone voice out there in the wilderness.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



YOU haven't redeemed yourself, Bbwian, so why don't you shut up??

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