Frank
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19 th, 2020 at 1:46pm: Frank wrote on Oct 19 th, 2020 at 12:55pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 19 th, 2020 at 12:41pm: Frank wrote on Oct 19 th, 2020 at 12:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18 th, 2020 at 8:51pm: Frank wrote on Oct 18 th, 2020 at 8:38pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 18 th, 2020 at 4:14pm: moses wrote on Oct 18 th, 2020 at 2:48pm: The muslims all pray to allah while they commit their human rights atrocities. So do Islamists, Moses. Time you learnt the differences between the two groups. I wonder do Christians call upon Jesus when they commit Terrorist acts? They dont. What IS the difference between islamists, muslims, mohammedans, jihadists? To me they are all the same. Educate us, oh, doctor of whatever. Go on. Show us your learning. Only if you open your mind and relinquish all concepts of Islamophobia, Soren. Are you willing to do that? Doesn't mean you have to jump into bed with the next Muslim you meet but it means you cannot assume they are all evil. Rejecting the Koran, Mohammed - the common thread that binds islamists, muslims, mohammedans, jihadists together - is not Islamophobia. It is a rejection of a particular ideological and cultural way of seeing and being in the world. Your constant reference to 'islamophobia' is a way to simply not accept that Islam can be rejected entirely. If I reject Scientology and view its adherents with doubt and suspicion - is that Scientologyphobia? Is atheism Christianityphobia? Your conceptual worlds is whirling with laughable paradoxes and contradictions and fundamental (often willful) misunderstandings and misrepresentations. As I suspected, I would be wasting my time attempting to explain the difference between traditional Islam and Islamism. Why? Because you reject that there is any difference between the two. Tell me, is there any difference, say between Catholicism and the beliefs of Opus Dei? For the purposes of rejecting them their differences are neither here nor there - you reject the foundations of both: the Bible and Jesus. What details they squabble between themselves is not relevant when you have already rejected their shared foundations. I reject all religions, Soren. Not just Catholicism or Christianity. I am tolerant of these obscure beliefs in a sky fairy. That is the difference between you and myself - I tolerate such beliefs, you reject them with vehemence. Until you grow up and learn to tolerate peoples' beliefs, you will remain a silly man. I don't have to be like you, Bbwian, you are not a paragon of anything but spineless apologetics. Reject but tolerate? Not when they are massacring for Allah and most recently cutting off the head of a teacher for showing cartoons. Such people deserve no tolerance of any kind. So I do not tolerate the ideology that tolerates such people in its midst. You do, of course, you tolerate every non-western depravity especially it it Islamic or Aborigines (the more primitive, the more you are for it) but you will not tolerate any disagreement with you that is based on Western values - to you that's all 'Tory', right wing', ''racist' and so you must always rally forth to denounce those. No tolerance for Western values when they clash with the primitives you valorise relentlessly. Muslims and primitives? Oh, you cannot possible do anything but tolerate, tolerate, tolerate. Beheading, violence, rape, brutality, intolerance? You tolerate it all - but not any of their critics. Criticisng primitive prutality and violence is 'tory' and 'right wing' and 'racist'. If I didn't know you were a baffled, confused, no-brow fool I'd say you should be ashamed of your gutless spinelessness. But I know you are so I won't.
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