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Reply #15 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 3:40pm
 
It's out -
The Queen didn't know.
Her Majesty is innocent.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-53386554


The Queen was not informed in advance about the 1975 dismissal of Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, newly released letters show.


Other details from the 1,200 pages of documents include:

    Sir John asserting that he wanted to prevent a possible "race to the Palace" that could see Mr Whitlam call for the governor-general's dismissal - something he said would put the Queen in an "impossible position"


    Lord Charteris telling Sir John that he had acted "not only with constitutional propriety, but also with admirable consideration for Her Majesty's position"


    Sir John writing in 1976 that there would "inevitably be discussion about constitutional amendment" in Australia - but that it would be "only on the left wing" and that most "want it to remain as it is".
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Reply #16 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 3:42pm
 
It's sad that HM who was not crowned as "Q of Australia" is called that by dodgy word-juggling. But she can't afford to be Q of A as she's pommy and so didn't make the decision to dismiss her loyal PM.  If she had stood up as a real monarch, the pretence about Oz royalty would be more fair dinkum.  So the wobbly waffle shuffles along.
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Reply #17 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 4:00pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 3:40pm:
It's out -
The Queen didn't know.
Her Majesty is innocent.



Rubbish
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Reply #18 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 5:41pm
 
BTW ... Reading these letters between the Palace and Kerr reinforces the idea that the TV series The Crown is pretty much on the ball in regard to the goings on in royal circles. All the intrigue and backroom maneuvering that goes on.  Cheesy

Fascinating stuff.  Cool
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Reply #19 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 8:12pm
 
What about the phone calls from Sir John to the palace ? They are not recorded.

Buckingham Palace gave the wink and the nudge to Governor General John Kerr to sack elected Prime Minister Gough Whitlam in 1975. Australian 'democracy' exposed. Thank you Prof. Jenny Hocking.

Whitlam grew too big for his boots and he tried to bypass the constitution and sought dodgy funds just like the Labor Party is doing today. So he had to go as he was a dangerous FABIAN Socialist.

Gosh, hear silly Albo rattle on about this. And Shifty old Shorty keeps muttering, "This might have been me!!!".



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He He, we tricked 'em Sir John didn't we!!!!



The Palace letters are every bit the bombshell they promised to be
By Jenny Hocking July 14, 2020 — 2.19pm

The Palace letters have proved to be every bit the bombshell they promised to be, and neither the Queen nor Sir John Kerr emerge unscathed.

In his vast, increasingly frequent letters and telegrams to the Queen, the governor-general provides the most extraordinary vice-regal commentary on the decisions and actions of a prime minister and elected government imaginable.

They provide a remarkable window onto Kerr’s views of Gough Whitlam, his planning, his options, his fears, and his eventual decision to dismiss the government.

Letter by letter, particularly from late August 1975, months before supply had even been blocked in the Senate, Kerr draws the Queen into his planning regarding the crisis unfolding in the Senate, including the possible use of the reserve powers.

Kerr details options and strategies, which are then discussed with the Queen through her private secretary, Sir Martin Charteris.

Read on here


https://amp.smh.com.au/national/the-palace-letters-are-every-bit-the-bombshell-t...
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Reply #20 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 9:16pm
 
Lieutenant-Colonel Martin  Charteris, Baron Charteris of Amisfield,  PC .
Must be ok , pc.
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Reply #21 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 10:33pm
 
That picture of Her Maj has sent Chimmy into a Shimmy. Closet royalist ?

Now the battle to uncover the rug that was pulled from under the Danger to Australia the dangerous FABIAN Socialist Whitlam.




Why did we have to fight so hard to see the 'Palace Letters'? They weren't stashed in the Queen's bottom drawer
Peter FitzSimons May 30, 2020 — 12.15am

Bravo Professor Jenny Hocking. The Monash University academic and member of the Australian Republic Movement's national committee – which I chair, blah, blah, blah – has fought the good fight for TEN YEARS to get access to the "Palace Letters", the 211 pieces of correspondence between Buckingham Palace and Sir John Kerr, that led up to The Dismissal. And on Friday, the High Court ruled 6-1 in her favour. Ideally, we shall all soon be privy to the contents of that correspondence.

The most staggering thing? It is that to this point we little Australians had no right to see correspondence between our own head of state and her representative in Australia, the governor-general, on a matter of such enormous import, even though the letters are in our National Archives, not the Queen's bottom drawer in the third chamber from the left!

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Professor Jenny Hocking, with a statue of Queen Victoria behind her, took her fight for the release of the 211 'Palace Papers' letters to the High Court. CREDIT:AAP

The fact we even had to ask the question in the first place is nothing short of embarrassing. On the one hand we argue we are a sovereign and independent nation and, on the other, we couldn't take a peek at correspondence between our two highest office holders on a matter of such import, nigh on half a century later?

That position, my learned friends, was absurd. And good on the High Court for saying so. Most of all though, bravo Professor Hocking who took on major institutional powers, and won. For us of the Australian Republic Movement it is a boost. For that "little Australian" view is still extant. No less than the chief of the Australian Defence Force, General Angus Campbell, has recently written to the Prime Minister and, in the course of giving reasons why a Victoria Cross should not be posthumously awarded to Teddy Sheean, who kept firing at the Japanese even as he went down with HMAS Armidale during the WWII bombing of Darwin, said this might damage our standing among other Commonwealth countries and "potentially with the Queen herself".


Read on to see how Australia was saved from the Danger to Australia the obnoxious Whitlam


https://www.smh.com.au/national/why-did-we-have-to-fight-so-hard-to-see-the-pala...
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Reply #22 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 5:08am
 
It's all smoke and mirrors.

Whitlam was on a quest to buy back Australia from foreign interests.

This included American ownership, which is greater than any other.

Frazer did a deal with the YANKS to get rid of Whitlam.

And all the little doggies played their parts.

Kerr was a drunk and a creep, it was easy to get him to sack Whitlam.

Frazer, I. Later life, realised what he had done and apologised, not openly of course, but if one reads between the lines, it's there.

America is now looking for allies for its much needed war with China.

Can have the colonial upset before we get thrown to the dogs, can we?
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Reply #23 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 7:13am
 
Such a shame the queen is even involved. Everybody, even Liar, knows this was a disgusting piece of political skulldugery.
The corrupt Frazer and the even more corrupt Kerr plotted this between them and will never be forgotten or forgiven. After this terrible event Kerr withdrew from public life and died a lonely , despised creature. Frazer never recovered from his part in this crime and even took to walking around without pants such was his poor mental state.
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Reply #24 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 8:50am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 4:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 3:40pm:
It's out -
The Queen didn't know.
Her Majesty is innocent.



Rubbish


Yes you are......
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Reply #25 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 9:07am
 
The distraught Socialists are making up fairy tales about their hero the Danger to Australia the FABIAN Socialist Whitlam who was so far out of line he had to go.

His Khemlani activities trying to secure dodgy money to bypass the constitution were pure scandal. The Labor Party is engaging in the same type of activity with the Chinese right now.

A great Labor shame really. If Shifty old Shorty had gotten in he would have followed down the Whitlam path and he would have also got dismissed.

Thank the Lord Above ScoMo got in instead. Think of all the illegal Devil Worshiping invaders dripping with the VIRUS Labor would have brought in when they RESTARTED the BOATS!!!!
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Reply #26 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 2:04pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 10:33pm:
That picture of Her Maj has sent Chimmy into a Shimmy. Closet royalist ?


You still find the Queen's English a bit difficult to follow?
Anyway , they say Kerr was weak not to discuss things with Whitlam.  But he's only the royal rep. If the Queen and that army bloke knew the story , why didnt she talk to Whitlam?
Maybe she don't do horstralian lingo.

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Reply #27 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 4:33pm
 
Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 8:50am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 4:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 3:40pm:
It's out -
The Queen didn't know.
Her Majesty is innocent.



Rubbish


Yes you are......



you're just determined to make an ass of yourself with every post aren't you? Cheesy Cheesy


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Letter by letter, particularly from late August 1975, months before supply had even been blocked in the Senate, Kerr draws the Queen into his planning regarding the crisis unfolding in the Senate, including the possible use of the reserve powers.



the queen knew everything before it even happened.
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Reply #28 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 6:37pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 4:33pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 8:50am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 4:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 3:40pm:
It's out -
The Queen didn't know.
Her Majesty is innocent.



Rubbish


Yes you are......



you're just determined to make an ass of yourself with every post aren't you? Cheesy Cheesy


Quote:
Letter by letter, particularly from late August 1975, months before supply had even been blocked in the Senate, Kerr draws the Queen into his planning regarding the crisis unfolding in the Senate, including the possible use of the reserve powers.



the queen knew everything before it even happened.

geriatric macho dagos will never take no for an answer, capeesh?

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Reply #29 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 6:44pm
 
Frank wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 6:37pm:
John Smith wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 4:33pm:
Fuzzball wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 8:50am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 4:00pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 14th, 2020 at 3:40pm:
It's out -
The Queen didn't know.
Her Majesty is innocent.



Rubbish


Yes you are......



you're just determined to make an ass of yourself with every post aren't you? Cheesy Cheesy


Quote:
Letter by letter, particularly from late August 1975, months before supply had even been blocked in the Senate, Kerr draws the Queen into his planning regarding the crisis unfolding in the Senate, including the possible use of the reserve powers.



the queen knew everything before it even happened.

geriatric macho dagos will never take no for an answer, capeesh?




you really need to stay of the drugs
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