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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32821 Gender:	Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid Jul 13^th, 2020 at 4:04pm heres how they are fudging the numbers
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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid Reply #1 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 4:13pm As usual you are wrong Aqua. They are actually UNDERreporting Covid deaths All over the world there have been more deaths than normal. Even more than the official Covid death figures https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2020/may/29/excess-deaths-uk-ha...
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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32821 Gender:	Re: Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid Reply #2 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 4:31pm under reported in pakistan maybe, but seriously, listen to the chief health officer from illinois explain that "you can die from a completely unrelated event and if you have a positive test, you are grouped in with the covid deaths. undoubtedly to secure funding from the federal government
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Re: Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid
Reply #3 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 5:20pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13^th, 2020 at 4:31pm:

under reported in pakistan maybe,

but seriously, listen to the chief health officer from illinois explain that
"you can die from a completely unrelated event and if you have a positive test, you are grouped in with the covid deaths.

undoubtedly to secure funding from the federal government Roll Eyes

Has it been counted as a COVID death or COVID positive?

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Reply #4 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 5:27pm

"I don't have this information at my disposal at this time"

Nowhere does she state that if your death was accidental that it's counted as a COVID death.

Your narrator doing what I've accused you of but you plead innocence to of minimising the virus and leading to further uninformed morons who will spread the virus and may kill a friend of yours is the one making the claim.

So I will ask you again, stop spreading false information, dick head.

I would hope that nobody you know, none of your family or friend contract the virus or die from it.

But as nice and compassionate person as I think I am, I would laugh my arse off at you if it did. Just deserts.

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Reply #5 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 5:36pm

is your brains styarved of oxygen?
you might need a test.

what do you mean by "covid positive " or counted as a "covid death"

THE CHIEF HEALTH OFFICER STATED

"IT IS A SIMPLISTIC PROCESS. IF YOU HAVE A POSITIVE TEST AT THE TIME OF YOUR DEATH< EVEN IF YOU DIE OF AN UNRELATED CAUSE< YOU ARE COUNTED AS A COVID DEATH".

illionois has 22 % of the population testing positive.
so large numbers of people will be dying WITH covid not OF covid.

she even states

"if you are in a hospice and given a few weeks to live and you contract covid, that is recorded as a covid death"

Roll Eyes

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Reply #6 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 5:37pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 13^th, 2020 at 5:27pm:

"I don't have this information at my disposal at this time"

Nowhere does she state that if your death was accidental that it's counted as a COVID death.

Your narrator doing what I've accused you of but you plead innocence to of minimising the virus and leading to further uninformed morons who will spread the virus and may kill a friend of yours is the one making the claim.

So I will ask you again, stop spreading false information, dick head.

I would hope that nobody you know, none of your family or friend contract the virus or die from it.

But as nice and compassionate person as I think I am, I would laugh my arse off at you if it did. Just deserts.

hmmm, maybe you need to consider how "nice and compassionate " you truly are Wink

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Re: Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid
Reply #7 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 11:52am

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13^th, 2020 at 4:31pm:

under reported in pakistan maybe,

but seriously, listen to the chief health officer from illinois explain that
"you can die from a completely unrelated event and if you have a positive test, you are grouped in with the covid deaths.

undoubtedly to secure funding from the federal government Roll Eyes

Well, yes - think of the emergency responders and the people who stopped to render assistance and all the others involved - they all need testing immediately.

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Reply #8 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 12:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13^th, 2020 at 5:37pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 13^th, 2020 at 5:27pm:

"I don't have this information at my disposal at this time"

Nowhere does she state that if your death was accidental that it's counted as a COVID death.

Your narrator doing what I've accused you of but you plead innocence to of minimising the virus and leading to further uninformed morons who will spread the virus and may kill a friend of yours is the one making the claim.

So I will ask you again, stop spreading false information, dick head.

I would hope that nobody you know, none of your family or friend contract the virus or die from it.

But as nice and compassionate person as I think I am, I would laugh my arse off at you if it did. Just deserts.

hmmm, maybe you need to consider how "nice and compassionate " you truly are Wink

Yeah, it's been eye opening with recent events.

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Re: Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid
Reply #9 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:10pm

aquascoot wrote on Jul 13^th, 2020 at 5:36pm:

is your brains styarved of oxygen?
you might need a test.

what do you mean by "covid positive " or counted as a "covid death"

THE CHIEF HEALTH OFFICER STATED

"IT IS A SIMPLISTIC PROCESS. IF YOU HAVE A POSITIVE TEST AT THE TIME OF YOUR DEATH< EVEN IF YOU DIE OF AN UNRELATED CAUSE< YOU ARE COUNTED AS A COVID DEATH".

illionois has 22 % of the population testing positive.
so large numbers of people will be dying WITH covid not OF covid.

she even states

"if you are in a hospice and given a few weeks to live and you contract covid, that is recorded as a covid death"

Roll Eyes

If thats true (and it seems farcical if it is) then that is just one US state and they have only 7,000 of the 130,000 US deaths
I can assure you that around the world COVID deaths are under reported

did you even read my link?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2020/may/29/excess-deaths-uk-ha...

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Re: Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid
Reply #10 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:16pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:

If thats true (and it seems farcical if it is) then that is just one US state and they have only 7,000 of the 130,000 US deaths
I can assure you that around the world COVID deaths are under reported

Actually more than one state -

"The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and several state health departments have been reporting COVID-19 diagnostic tests and antibody tests as one grand tally, rather than keeping their results separate, The Atlantic reported. "

https://www.livescience.com/cdc-combined-covid-19-diagnostic-and-antibody-tests....

if they come in combined from the states there is no way CDC can extrapolate the figures.

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Reply #11 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:26pm

lee wrote on Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:16pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:

If thats true (and it seems farcical if it is) then that is just one US state and they have only 7,000 of the 130,000 US deaths
I can assure you that around the world COVID deaths are under reported

Actually more than one state -

"The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and several state health departments have been reporting COVID-19 diagnostic tests and antibody tests as one grand tally, rather than keeping their results separate, The Atlantic reported. "

https://www.livescience.com/cdc-combined-covid-19-diagnostic-and-antibody-tests....

if they come in combined from the states there is no way CDC can extrapolate the figures.

FFS lee if you are going to troll me can you at least troll me on actual subject we were talking about.
I was talking about COVID deaths not antibody tests.
You are a fing imbecile

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 21726 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid Reply #12 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:40pm ABC News: "Man in his 80s has died from COVID-19 in Victoria". Could it be that the man was in his 80s when he died in Victoria?
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The_Barnacle Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6205 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Even a car accident death will be classed as Covid Reply #13 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:43pm UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:40pm: ABC News: "Man in his 80s has died from COVID-19 in Victoria". Could it be that the man was in his 80s when he died in Victoria? The health experts say he died of Covid. Some conspiracy theorist on the internet says he didn't hmmmm who to believe?
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Reply #14 - Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:47pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:26pm:

FFS lee if you are going to troll me can you at least troll me on actual subject we were talking about.

Poor petal. When I correct him it is trolling. When he responds with schist elsewhere it is not, apparently? Roll Eyes

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 14^th, 2020 at 4:26pm:

I was talking about COVID deaths not antibody tests.

Sorry you wanted the headline as well petal? here 'tis -

"The CDC is lumping positive COVID-19 viral and antibody tests together. Here's why that's bad."

You do understand the viral tests test for COVID19? People with it die or are isolated. It gives a false picture of deaths. Capiche?

yes petal. And the CDC hasn't differentiated between them. Can you? If the states can't differentiate between tests and deaths, how can you be sure they can differentiate between dying of COVID-19 and dying with COVID19? Grin

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