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Reply #15 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 8:21pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 6th, 2020 at 8:16pm:
This is not Japan. Silly Greeny propaganda is just rubbish.


Back to more empty rhetoric.

No matter. It can't be denied that even John Howard the Liberals champion backed an emissions trading scheme.
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Reply #16 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 8:30pm
 
The Greeny rubbish is just that - a fraud like their Climate Change SCAM.

Greenles have NO plan for Australia other than to reduce it to a pile of rubble.

it is all to do with the UN One world "Govt" in a Sustainable World.

What is the point of feeding Socialists ho do NOT want to earn their keep ? Put the blow torch on them and save taxpayers money.

Kick off the huge WWII style infrastructure projects and reintroduce National Service and sop all the Socialist bludgers up.
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Reply #17 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 8:32pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 6th, 2020 at 6:28am:
Valkie wrote on Jul 6th, 2020 at 6:03am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:42pm:
whiteknight wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 1:03pm:
Increasing JobSeeker payments is ‘sustainable’, new study reveals


Why should taxpayers give dole bludgers more sit down money?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice if you want more money get a job the minimum wage is nearly $20 hour



EXACTLY,  my taxes were not meant to pay some lazy assholes to sit on their arses all day while I work.

I think we need to toughen the system up.

The dole should only last 12 months and then cut off.

No matter who you are, what race, creed or colour you are.

Especially if you are a refugee.

12 months and then, you are on your own.


Would you hire a refugee?

Spot



I would hire a refugee and even give them the keys to the safe.
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Reply #18 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 8:38pm
 
Depends on what the refugee is like. Some of them would rob you blind.
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Reply #19 - Jul 7th, 2020 at 8:39am
 
Valkie wrote on Jul 6th, 2020 at 6:03am:
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:42pm:
whiteknight wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 1:03pm:
Increasing JobSeeker payments is ‘sustainable’, new study reveals


Why should taxpayers give dole bludgers more sit down money?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice if you want more money get a job the minimum wage is nearly $20 hour



EXACTLY,  my taxes were not meant to pay some lazy assholes to sit on their arses all day while I work.

I think we need to toughen the system up.

The dole should only last 12 months and then cut off.

No matter who you are, what race, creed or colour you are.

Especially if you are a refugee.

12 months and then, you are on your own.

So what's your solution to the tens of thousands of employers who refuse to hire the jobless? Naming and shaming? Lawsuits? $500,000 fines? Jail?

And are you aware that keeping one million workers out of work at all times is OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT POLICY?
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Reply #20 - Jul 7th, 2020 at 9:54am
 
Nothing like a bit of GetUp! propaganda.
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Reply #21 - Jul 7th, 2020 at 6:55pm
 
Juliar's alternative to a solution, is to throw up a bit of empty rhetoric whenever he hears a fact he doesn't like!

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Reply #22 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 7:11am
 
The Jap Zeros are attacking!!!
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Reply #23 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 2:19pm
 
Your misguided and divisive analogies do little more than reflect your narrow mindedness and yet I sense you congratulate yourself for them, how profound!   



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Reply #24 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 5:25pm
 
looks like a closet Greeny has been exposed as only a Greeny posts character assassination stuff like that.

What is hilarious is when the Greeny becomes really riled and uses the last Greeny resort of falsely accusing his tormentor of defaming him/her with veiled threats of court action etc.

But nevertheless Increasing Jobseeker Payments Is UNsustainable as the taxpayers can't afford their money to be stolen like this.
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Reply #25 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 6:44pm
 
Let the Battlers be on the Dole and the Bludgers/Scammers be in the Australian Foreign Legion.  Wink

I'm sure you can all tell the 'difference' between the two?
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Reply #26 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 6:59pm
 
juliar wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 5:25pm:
looks like a closet Greeny has been exposed as only a Greeny posts character assassination stuff like that.

What is hilarious is when the Greeny becomes really riled and uses the last Greeny resort of falsely accusing his tormentor of defaming him/her with veiled threats of court action etc.

But nevertheless Increasing Jobseeker Payments Is UNsustainable as the taxpayers can't afford their money to be stolen like this.



I think I touched a nerve, Juliar saw a little of their own reflection and felt their character was being assassinated. And yet the straw-man, labeling and deflection tactics continue to show the small-mindedness of their activity here.

As far as being able to afford a reasonable level of Job Seeker. Adjustments to tax policy surrounding economic rent-seeking activities should be made to encourage actual wealth creation over mere opportunistic wealth consolidation. This could free up the necessary funds for this and many other of societies needs.

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Reply #27 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 9:32pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:42pm:
whiteknight wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 1:03pm:
Increasing JobSeeker payments is ‘sustainable’, new study reveals


Why should taxpayers give dole bludgers more sit down money?

The dole was never meant to be a lifestyle choice if you want more money get a job the minimum wage is nearly $20 hour



Uhuh. And those $20/hr jobs out there are just begging to be filled, hey? I work a $21/hr job. The minimum I can work is 9 hours a week. And I can work up to 18 hours a week. If I want more hours, I have to do more at work in other departments. But, much of the time, I have to compete with other workers for hours. It takes someone getting sick or a resignation for me to get more hours temporarily.

I don't know of any job out there that pays over $20/hr and not have the employer expect people to give a $40/hr performance for their 38 to 50 hours a week.
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Reply #28 - Jul 8th, 2020 at 9:44pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 6:44pm:
Let the Battlers be on the Dole and the Bludgers/Scammers be in the Australian Foreign Legion.  Wink

I'm sure you can all tell the 'difference' between the two?


Do we have scammers these days? I have to do 40 job searches a month and do some reciprocity task to be able to get $550 per fortnight. Otherwise, I work and get a reduced reciprocity load to manage, just to get an extra $300 per fortnight on top of my wages.

Unless you are talking about certain communities that have no obligations to report and get paid welfare as much as a low-paid 40 hours a week worker.
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Reply #29 - Jul 10th, 2020 at 11:31am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 9:44pm:
Jasin wrote on Jul 8th, 2020 at 6:44pm:
Let the Battlers be on the Dole and the Bludgers/Scammers be in the Australian Foreign Legion.  Wink

I'm sure you can all tell the 'difference' between the two?


Do we have scammers these days? I have to do 40 job searches a month and do some reciprocity task to be able to get $550 per fortnight. Otherwise, I work and get a reduced reciprocity load to manage, just to get an extra $300 per fortnight on top of my wages.

Unless you are talking about certain communities that have no obligations to report and get paid welfare as much as a low-paid 40 hours a week worker.

Don't forget the brutal measure known as "income reduction". It's effectively a 71% tax and that level of taxation - effective or actual - is indefensible for anyone, let alone people earning less than $500 a week. This is why the minimum wage in Australia is actually about $5 an hour - after tax.

If you want people to be encouraged to work, then we must reduce the total tax and government burden for all low income earners from up to 71% down to 20% or less and THEN we can talk.
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