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Eden-Monaro: Labor caught with unauthorised poster
Jun 28th, 2020 at 5:23pm
 
Is there no end to Labor's shameful conduct ?  No doubt it is the GetUp! Terrorists again.

There needs to be guards in place at all cemeteries to ensure the practice (as is perfected in Queensland by Labor), of raising the dead does not occur on election day.

Labor lies and illegals acts ,,,nothing new move on, we will fix it up later maybe

Trouble is, it is never fixed – just keeps on keeping on.

This really shows how the Aussie “she’ll be right Mate – near enough is close enough -, like the Long march of The left -has’ so deeply infiltrated our country. Any one with half a brain should have ensured that the authorisations were accurate before the release of the corflutes.



Eden-Monaro: Labor caught with unauthorised posters
AMM 26.06.20.

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Albo and Kirsty McBain

Labor is quietly taking down corflute signs across the Eden-Monaro tilt after keen eyes noticed the signs were authorised by disgraced former boss Kaila Murnain, hoping like hell that nobody saw such a dumb move.

The public, however, are far smarter than Labor’s campaign managers and blew the whistle. Will this lose votes for the Labor candidate? Probably not!



Eden-Monaro: Labor’s Kirsty McBain caught with unauthorised campaign signs
Source: Anna Caldwell, The Daily telegraph

Labor is urgently trying to tear down a string of corflutes in its Eden-Monaro tilt which boast the authorisation of disgraced former party boss Kaila Murnain.

The Daily Telegraph was sent photos of red Labor signs, with the small print “authorised by Kaila Murnain”, including in the window of Labor candidate Kristy McBain’s office in Queanbeyan.

Others were taken in Yass and Narooma.

The photo in Ms McBain’s office window was taken on Wednesday, but by yesterday it had been removed.

A Labor spokesman last night explained that the signs were old signs which had been recycled by volunteers.

“These are old signs that are in the possession of Labor Party members and volunteers who are eager to get Kristy McBain elected as a strong local voice for Eden-Monaro,” the spokesman said.

“We are making every effort to take these signs out of circulation.”

The Commonwealth Electoral Act requires authorisation of corflutes, ads and other electoral material to include the address of a person where they are located or can be contacted.

Ms Murnain quit as general secretary of the Labor Party last October after being called before ICAC in a donations hearing.

https://morningmail.org/eden-monaro-labor-caught-with-unauthorised-posters/#more...
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Reply #1 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 12:06am
 
Meanwhile, although Labor will probably win Eden-Monaro next Saturday ...

"Operation Albo" is a dismal failure:

Scott Morrison has posted record approval ratings while the ­Coalition maintains its narrow lead over Labor nationally in the final week of campaigning for the Eden-Monaro by-election

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Reply #2 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 9:15am
 
After the disgusting campaign of lies and deceit the coalition and the media have run against labor in the run up to this byelection, the libs should be way in front. Unfortunately for scummo, people of the nsw south coast remember where he was when they were fighting to save their homes.
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Reply #3 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 10:05am
 
Going to mention the emails against the Labor candidate juliar?
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Reply #4 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:14pm
 
BH, don't keep everybody in suspense ?  Is this the work of the GetUp! Terrorists!!!!!

BH what do YOU know about this ??? Are you working for GetUp! ???



Eden-Monaro byelection: AFP investigate disinformation campaign against Labor's Kristy McBain
Katharine Murphy Political editor Mon 29 Jun 2020 12.25 AESTLast modified on Mon 29 Jun 2020 13.21 AEST

As the campaign enters its final week, police investigate widely distributed emails that make false claims about McBain and her family.

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Labor candidate for the seat of Eden-Monaro, Kristy McBain. The Australian federal police are investigating spam emails claiming McBain has pulled out of the race. Photograph: Lukas Coch/AAP

The Australian federal police are investigating a disinformation campaign against Labor’s candidate in the Eden-Monaro byelection after spam emails distributed around the country claimed that Kristy McBain had pulled out of the contest.

The false material was assessed by the Electoral Integrity Assurance Taskforce and referred for police investigation.

Labor’s national secretary, Paul Erickson, said he was hopeful police could identify the culprit because “the spread of disinformation online is a threat to democracy”.

The AFP on Monday confirmed an investigation was under way but declined to comment further.

As the campaign enters its final week, there is more than one email circulating making false claims about McBain and her family members. The material has been circulated beyond the electorate.

Read more here


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/29/eden-monaro-byelection-af...
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Reply #5 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:36pm
 
Master Vote winner, ScoMo dishes out some vote winning cash.



Coalition unveils $86m for primary producers as Eden-Monaro contest heats up
Katharine Murphy Political editor Mon 22 Jun 2020 22.30 AEST Last modified on Mon 22 Jun 2020 22.31 AEST

Package to aid bushfire and Covid-19-impacted communities frustrated at slow pace of disaster recovery.

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The Coalition is announcing an $86m package to aid rural communities hammered by twin disasters of summer bushfires and coronavirus pandemic. Photograph: Kiran Ridley/Greenpeace Australia/Getty Images

The Morrison government will unveil $86m for primary producers hit by the summer bushfires and the coronavirus pandemic as the byelection contest in Eden-Monaro accelerates into the closing fortnight.

The package to be unveiled by the Coalition on Tuesday includes a $31m grant fund, with payments of $120,000 a hectare available for bushfire-impacted apple growers.

Apple orchards around the inland town of Batlow were decimated during the summer bushfires, and recovery from that catastrophe is front-and-centre in the contest.

The Liberal party’s television advertising in the contest emphasises that the candidate, Fiona Kotvojs, will be able to deliver for constituents hammered by the two disasters because she will be a member of the incumbent government, rather than a member of the opposition.


There has been intense frustration in some of the communities in the bellwether electorate about the slow pace of disaster recovery, and about residents falling between the gaps of the various government assistance programs.

The byelection was triggered by the retirement of the Labor incumbent, Mike Kelly. Labor’s pitch in the contest in the seat – which is diverse, and covers Canberra commuter towns of Yass and Queanbeyan and stretches down to Eden near the Victorian border and back up to Braidwood in the Southern Tablelands – has been forgotten by the Coalition.

While Labor enjoyed a less cluttered start to the contest, the campaigns have been constrained because of the physical distancing restrictions required to flatten the curve of Covid-19 infections and strategists are reluctant to forecast success or failure of the persuasion efforts to date because of the diversity of the communities.


As well as the funding for orchardists, Tuesday’s package includes a $40m forestry recovery fund to support processors “navigating future wood supply shortages through innovation and product diversification” and $10m for storage facilities for processed timber products, fire-affected logs and other forestry products.

There is forestry industry on the south coast as well as in Tumut and Tumbarumba, and the Visy paper mill is located nearby.

The package also includes a $5m grant fund, which will require co-contributions from wine grape producers who experienced crop loss because of smoke taint. The funding will be centred on wine regions that don’t have access to primary producer grants.

In a statement issued ahead of the announcement Scott Morrison said the funding would help communities “build back better”.

“As our communities battle to overcome the effects of drought, bushfires and now Covid-19, it’s initiatives like these that will also help accelerate economic recovery and ultimately deliver more jobs to the regions,” Morrison said.


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Reply #6 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:40pm
 
juliar wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:14pm:
BH, don't keep everybody in suspense ?  Is this the work of the GetUp! Terrorists!!!!!

BH what do YOU know about this ??? Are you working for GetUp! ???



Eden-Monaro byelection: AFP investigate disinformation campaign against Labor's Kristy McBain
Katharine Murphy Political editor Mon 29 Jun 2020 12.25 AESTLast modified on Mon 29 Jun 2020 13.21 AEST

As the campaign enters its final week, police investigate widely distributed emails that make false claims about McBain and her family.

https://i.postimg.cc/sxLMwbjr/5568.jpg
Labor candidate for the seat of Eden-Monaro, Kristy McBain. The Australian federal police are investigating spam emails claiming McBain has pulled out of the race. Photograph: Lukas Coch/AAP

The Australian federal police are investigating a disinformation campaign against Labor’s candidate in the Eden-Monaro byelection after spam emails distributed around the country claimed that Kristy McBain had pulled out of the contest.

The false material was assessed by the Electoral Integrity Assurance Taskforce and referred for police investigation.

Labor’s national secretary, Paul Erickson, said he was hopeful police could identify the culprit because “the spread of disinformation online is a threat to democracy”.

The AFP on Monday confirmed an investigation was under way but declined to comment further.

As the campaign enters its final week, there is more than one email circulating making false claims about McBain and her family members. The material has been circulated beyond the electorate.

Read more here


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/29/eden-monaro-byelection-af...



Not really, just pointing out theres been dodgy stuff on both sides.
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Reply #7 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:43pm
 
Sprung, BH ducks for cover.  No doubt GetUp! is furiously terrorizing all and sundry.


Nats’ rising support may lift Libs over the line

Nationals polling for the seat of Eden-Monaro shows the party’s vote has nearly doubled over the past two weeks.

9:37 AM · Jun 29, 2020

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Trevor Hicks - Nationals for Eden-Monaro
· 24 June ·

The Federal Nationals in Government have announced $31 million to help the apple industry repair and replant orchards.

Our apple producers particularly in Batlow have suffered as a result of the bushfires.

The funding will provide grants of $12,000 per hectare for bushfire affected apple growers

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Reply #8 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:47pm
 
juliar wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 2:43pm:
Sprung, BH ducks for cover.




Not really, lets face it campaign signs with a name of an ex labor official arent as bad as fake emails about exiting the campaign, alleging that McBains brother was the Wit ness J in the pell trials and that bushfires were Gods plan against Mike Kelly.

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Trapped closet GetUp! campaigner BH is ducking and weaving.

An apple a day keeps the Socialists away.
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Juliar, please seek medical attention forthwith.
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Reply #11 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 3:29pm
 
Trapped BH is trying to use standard armchair arm waving ineffectual defense tactics.



Liberals are happy in their position leading up to Eden-Monaro byelection: Molan
28/06/2020

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Liberal candidate Fiona Kotvojs

Liberal Senator Jim Molan says his party is happy where it sits one week out from the Eden-Monaro byelection but it will be an extremely hard fought vote.

Pre-polling has been in place for two weeks in the rural seat vacated by Labor’s Dr Mike Kelly, with Labor candidate Kristy McBain and Liberal candidate Fiona Kotvojs in a virtual tie leading up to the election on Saturday.

“The candidate we’ve got is rock solid,” Senator Molan told Sky News host Paul Murray.

“The intensity is really starting now”.

“They don’t stack their branches in Eden Monaro, the Labor Party, because they don’t even get a chance to vote”.


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Reply #12 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:51pm
 
Labor has everything in its favour:

100 years of statistical history that says Governments don't win by-election seats off an opposition; the donkey vote and the "gun lobby" preferences.

If Labor lose this... it will be a disaster for the ALP and Albo.

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Reply #13 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:54pm
 
Hey BH, a picture of you and your dog just appeared in your post. Nice dog. Does he have a Juliar Gillard chew toy ?
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Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:51pm:
]Labor has everything in its favour:[/highlight]

100 years of statistical history that says Governments don't win by-election seats off an opposition; the donkey vote and the "gun lobby" preferences.

If Labor lose this... it will be a disaster for the ALP and Albo.



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Yes you are - well you asked.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:51pm:
Labor has everything in its favour:

100 years of statistical history that says Governments don't win by-election seats off an opposition; the donkey vote and the "gun lobby" preferences.

If Labor lose this... it will be a disaster for the ALP and Albo.


You don't know what you're talking about, and you're just making up crap.

The former Labor MP Mike Kelly had a significant personal vote, to the extent that in 2016 he won Eden-Monaro for the opposition party for the first time since 1969 and held his seat in 2019. His personal vote was about 3%, more than his margin of victory in 2019 (0.85%).

It was only in 1966 that it tended to go to the party winning government.

Eden-Monaro has gone to the party winning government in 1966, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1977, 1980, 1983, 1984, 1987, 1990, 1993, 1996, 1998, 2001, 2004, 2007, 2010 and 2013.

Eden-Monaro has gone to the opposition in 1969, 2016 and 2019.

The current government has a modest swing towards it in opinion polls. The government is also rolling out truckloads of pork barrels and is conveniently withholding some less popular decisions until after the by-election.

On those considerations, the government should be favoured to gain the seat.

Why then are they resorting to dirty tricks such as false emails?
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Reply #17 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 8:37pm
 
There is nothing like the misguided optimism of a Socialist.

How could anyone vote for the deeply corrupt Labor Party whose corruption has been skillfully exposed by the new Lib SetUp! unit ?
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Reply #18 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 8:45pm
 
Who cares unless you live in Eden-Monaro....The result will change nothing???

Huh Huh Huh
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Ah, but it will set the trend for the big election which the Libs would win anyway and bury Labor under 6 feet of gravel.
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macman wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:51pm:
]Labor has everything in its favour:[/highlight]

100 years of statistical history that says Governments don't win by-election seats off an opposition; the donkey vote and the "gun lobby" preferences.

If Labor lose this... it will be a disaster for the ALP and Albo.



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You saw the Liberal candidate had drawn bottom of the ticket yes? 

i.e. The donkey vote favours Labor.

You know the Shooters Party is preferencing Labor yes?

You know that over the last 100 years, no government has won a by-election seat off an opposition held seat yes?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

So, on every point I stated, I was correct.


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juliar wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 6:13pm:
Yes you are - well you asked.


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Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 11:24pm:
macman wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:51pm:
]Labor has everything in its favour:[/highlight]

100 years of statistical history that says Governments don't win by-election seats off an opposition; the donkey vote and the "gun lobby" preferences.

If Labor lose this... it will be a disaster for the ALP and Albo.



Are you blind or just naturally stupid?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


You saw the Liberal candidate had drawn bottom of the ticket yes? 

i.e. The donkey vote favours Labor.

You know the Shooters Party is preferencing Labor yes?

You know that over the last 100 years, no government has won a by-election seat off an opposition held seat yes?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

So, on every point I stated, I was correct.




Allowing for that, have you not noted the usual dirty tactics employed by the libs and media against the labor candidate?
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Reply #23 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 9:46am
 
macman wrote on Jun 30th, 2020 at 9:12am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 11:24pm:
macman wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 6:07pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:51pm:
]Labor has everything in its favour:[/highlight]

100 years of statistical history that says Governments don't win by-election seats off an opposition; the donkey vote and the "gun lobby" preferences.

If Labor lose this... it will be a disaster for the ALP and Albo.



Are you blind or just naturally stupid?  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


You saw the Liberal candidate had drawn bottom of the ticket yes? 

i.e. The donkey vote favours Labor.

You know the Shooters Party is preferencing Labor yes?

You know that over the last 100 years, no government has won a by-election seat off an opposition held seat yes?

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

So, on every point I stated, I was correct.




Allowing for that, have you not noted the usual dirty tactics employed by the libs and media against the labor candidate?



you dont mean like GET UP did in the last fed election do you?

wow you mean they get THAT dirty Smiley
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Reply #24 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 11:02am
 
The Socialist HATE Pit seems to be seething.  Wonder how the Labor branch stacking is going in Eden-Monaro ?

You can even listen to the 2GB interview here as they predict the toppling of the Albo statue.


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Labor scandals the ‘tipping point’ for Eden-Monaro by-election
26/06/2020

Chris Smith believes the recent spate of scandals rocking the Labor party could spell out the end for leader Anthony Albanese.

The most recent Labor controversy struck today, with the home and offices of NSW Upper House MP Shaoquett Moselmane raided by Australian Federal Police over an alleged China connection.

Chris Smith revealed to Mark Levy the ramifications of this on the upcoming Eden-Monaro federal by-election “are not to be underestimated”.

“I’ve spoken to a very senior NSW Liberal party minister who this afternoon reckoned that this could be the tipping point for Eden-Monaro.

“And, if that becomes a seat for the Liberals… you just wonder whether they’ll be changing leaders… for the Labor Party.

“You just wonder if Anthony Albanese can survive?”

https://www.2gb.com/labor-scandals-the-tipping-point-for-eden-monaro-by-election...
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2GB. That shining example of unbiased journalism. Hows Chris Smiths groping going.
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Reply #26 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 11:17am
 
A bit of armchair slapping from BH.  BH you must really enjoy those GetUp! HillSong Revivalist Indoctrination Meetings.

Even more propaganda Fake News from Labor exposed by the Nationals.

Does the woebegone Labor Party have NO shame at all ???





Nationals take aim at Eden-Monaro candidate Kristy McBain over Wagga ad
Katie Burgess JUNE 25 2020 - 2:45PM

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The ad published in Thursday's Daily Advertiser, said Kristy McBain would be a strong voice for Wagga Wagga. In fact, the town is in the electorate of Riverina, with Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack as its MP.

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack has taken aim at Labor's candidate for Eden-Monaro Kristy McBain, after a campaign ad claimed she would be a "local voice for Wagga Wagga".

Mr McCormack, who is from Wagga Wagga and is the federal MP for the area, took exception to Labor's advertisement in the Daily Advertiser on Thursday urging people to vote one for the Bega mayor in the July 4 byelection. The Daily Advertiser is owned by Australian Community Media, publisher of this masthead.

The Nationals leader pointed out the city was not even in the electorate and was more than 100 kilometres from former Labor member Mike Kelly's old electorate office in Tumut.

"In fact, since Federation in 1901, Wagga Wagga has never been in the electorate of Eden-Monaro. If you don't even know which towns you're seeking to represent, you cannot be an effective advocate for your community," Mr McCormack said.


However Ms McBain's camp pointed out the paper - which Mr McCormack was once the editor of - is read by people in Tumut and Batlow, which is part of the Eden-Monaro electorate.


"This was a mistake made at the design stage and should have said Tumut. Tumut, Adelong and Batlow and surrounds has a big readership of the Wagga Advertiser," a spokeswoman said.

The Nationals are attempting to turn the byelection into a three-cornered contest, with Queanbeyan-Palerang councillor Trevor Hicks standing for the party against Liberal candidate Fiona Kotvojs and Ms McBain for Labor.

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Reply #27 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 11:35am
 
Even more Labor shame!!   Is Labor hogging bushfire relief funds ?



Eden-Monaro: $600k Bega Valley disaster relief fund still hasn’t distributed donations, Labor candidate Kristy McBain criticised by Libs
ROSIE LEWIS 11:50AM JUNE 25, 2020

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Labor’s Eden-Monaro candidate Kristy McBain says she does not expect a result on election night. Picture: AAP


A disaster relief fund for Bega Valley­ residents in the marginal NSW electorate of Eden-Monaro has more than $600,000 in its coffers­ but not a cent will be distributed to bushfire victims until next month, in a move Emergency Management Minister David Little­proud says is “concerning”.

Liberal senator Jim Molan also said it was hypocritical for Labor’s candidate and former Bega Valley Shire mayor Kristy McBain, whose council is linked to the community fund, to be campaigning against the government’s “too late” bushfire response.

“It’s a bit rich for Labor’s candidate to be criticising the speed of the bushfire recovery by others when the disaster recovery fund set up and backed by her council has not yet spent any of its donations,” he said. “The people that could have benefited from these funds would be disappointed.”


As the July 4 Eden-Monaro poll edges closer, Anthony Albanese tried on Wednesday to deflect pressure on his leadership and instead declared the poll a “test” for Scott Morrison.

Bega Valley Shire mayor Sharon Tapscott confirmed at a council meeting on June 10 that the community disaster relief fund had received $605,000, most of which was donated by the Greek Orthodox Church “in the last six weeks”.

The fund, not exclusively for bushfires, is “independent” of council but Ms Tapscott is co-chair and deputy mayor Russell Fitzpatrick is on the committee.

“We’ve got an application form that’s gone out as a pilot and the money should start being distributed,” Ms Tapscott said earlier this month. “It will be a smaller amount of money and it’ll be over a staged amount of time so that we don’t use it all up straight away because­ we have a very large amount of shire to cover.

“The first amount of money should start going out somewhere about the first week of July.”

Mr Littleproud, who said the five local government areas within Eden-Monaro had received more than $108.5m in federal and state bushfire recovery support, said councils needed to be quick in responding to their community needs. “The federal government is concerned about any charity or charitable fund holding on to money which has been donated, rather than distributed to those who need it,” he said.

“When Australians donate to a charity or cause, they expect that money goes directly and quickly to those it’s for.”


Mr Fitzpatrick guaranteed Mr Littleproud the money would go to those in need and be distributed in full, with up to 30 applications from Cobargo residents the first priority. He said the bulk of the fund’s money had not been donated “until recently”.

Opposition emergency management spokesman Murray Watt said the Morrison government’s attack over the disaster relief­ fund was a “pathetic attempt to distract from its dreadful record on bushfire recovery”.

“The only thing bushfire victims in Eden-Monaro are talking about is when Scott Morrison will deliver his own promises — his ‘notional’ $2bn fund and his 30 June deadline for cleaning up ­debris,” Senator Watt said.

The Opposition Leader said the people of Eden-Monaro would be able to send a message to the government about “whether they think the lead-up to the bushfire crisis last year was adequate, about whether they think the response and the recovery has been adequate”.

Mr Albanese also accused the government of not telling voters until after they by-election if it would “rip out support for people who need it” by ending JobKeeper as scheduled in September.

Ms McBain said she did not expect to know the election result on the night, given it was a “really tight contest” and additional COVID-safe measures had been put in place that would slow down counting.

A government has not won a seat off the opposition in a by-election for 100 years.

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In fact, the town is in the electorate of Riverina, with Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack as its MP.


Yep its a bad ad, but McCormacks an idiot anyway so she would be a better voice.
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Sounds like BH is an armchair expert on the Rivereena.  An amazing person.

Now even MORE corruption by the Labor miscreants in trying to misuse illegal signs.



AEC cracks down on purple and white signage in Eden-Monaro by-election
ABC South East NSW / By Simon Lauder and Jen Hunt Posted 18 June 2020, updated 18 June 2020

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A man in an official's vest speaks with a man and a woman at an outdoor polling station.. An AEC official speaks to Sheena Boughen about the offending sign.(ABC South East NSW: Simon Lauder)

The consequences of a court ruling about signage at polling booths are being felt as campaigning for the Eden-Monaro by-election gets underway.

Key points:
The AEC has started cracking down on election propaganda that could be mistaken for an official AEC message
The Eden-Monaro by-election seems to be the first time the AEC has acted against parties using purple and white lettering
The new rules follow a Court of Disputed Returns ruling last year

Sheena Boughen was handing out pamphlets for Labor's candidate, Kristy McBain, at the Bega pre-polling booth on Wednesday afternoon when she was approached by an Australian Electoral Commission official.

He asked her to take down a sign about how to lodge a valid vote.

"He said the words are fine," she said.

"But it's the colour purple that's the problem."

The sign in question carried a message about how to lodge a vote, with purple lettering on a white background, reading "Remember, you must number every square."


"The purpose was just to help voters ensure their vote was valid," Ms Boughen said.

She cooperated and her husband removed the sign immediately.

Two posters attached to a fence, one in English, the other Chinese. The English one says "POLLING PLACE".
Posters seen during the 2019 Federal election sported similar colours to those used by the AEC.(ABC News: Gemma Hall)

No colour blocking
After last year's Federal election, the Federal Court sitting as the Court of Disputed Returns ruled on purple signs with Chinese writing and misleading advice on how to vote.

The court found the election result was not influenced by the Chinese-language signs, which used similar colours to the Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) and told voters "the correct way to vote" was to put a "1" next to the Liberal candidate's name.

That case has allowed the AEC to broaden the interpretation of what constitutes a misleading sign.

As a result the AEC now has new rules on purple signs that imitate AEC signage.

It says that purple and white signs are misleading or deceptive when they are positioned to make it look like they carry a message from the AEC, rather than the political party actually responsible for the sign.

The AEC's new rules also ban signs that imply that the only way to cast a valid vote is to vote for a particular party.

The ABC's election analyst, Antony Green, says it's a good thing the AEC is moving to protect its official branding, as long as it applies the new rules consistently.

"A purple sign saying 'Remember to number all the squares' is in no way misleading in its message," he said.

"But it's misleading in trying to make it look like it's a message from the Electoral Commission and they've decided to crack down on that."

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Yep, know our Dep PM personally.
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Does BH live in the Riverina ?   
Heavens a Country Party supporter. 
Must be a bit upset about all the corruption being revealed about the Labor miscreants.
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juliar wrote on Jun 30th, 2020 at 1:20pm:
Does BH live in the Riverina ?   
Heavens a Country Party supporter. 
Must be a bit upset about all the corruption being revealed about the Labor miscreants.



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Does BH live in Eden Monaro ?   Canberra ?
Heavens a Labor Party supporter.
Must be a bit thrilled about all the corruption being revealed about the Labor miscreants.



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Wonder if ScoMo would prefer Albo stays or goes ?


ALBO, But of course, you have nothing more to do, have you?
Nothing to oppose with any significance, so might as well try bipartisanship!
As for Albanese the Leader, he is a man awaiting the end of tenure.

Accomplished nothing, opposed everything and looking forward to a vacuum or maybe some kind of recognition that waits to unfold in the hallowed halls of Labor.

The Labor and Daniel Andrews story is only in its first chapter and one can feel the tension as the story unfolds as yet another China Scandal unfolds.

The threads of Communist China unravel thread by thread into Australian Politics and the players’ names begin to appear.

Of course the story must surely begin prior to the last Election and the parts played by Dastyari, Shorten, the Bag carrier and the Recipients?

Who would win the Election, what was agreed/promised and by whom?
Was Australia promised as a part of China's Road and Belt Initiative one can only imagine?

Why did Shorten refuse to address questions of policy costings but stated that ALL would be revealed 'after' the Election?
The Election he could not lose and his confidence in winning. What had Bill planned for us one wonders?

And after the 'Miracle' happened and he lost and all his plans and promises made came to nothing, we find him still there, in the Parliament and keeping tabs on what is going on.

And watching Albo gradually fall from Grace and ready to announce, one more try??
If so, we surely have little to worry about.
But the story of the Road to China will be a thriller in every way, at least for some?
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 30th, 2020 at 1:26pm:
juliar wrote on Jun 30th, 2020 at 1:20pm:
Does BH live in the Riverina ?   
Heavens a Country Party supporter. 
Must be a bit upset about all the corruption being revealed about the Labor miscreants.



No, no and no.




at least we know BH doesnt get upset with his labor miscreants     Undecided Undecided   


I know I would be if  they were libs...

and would say so loud and clear on the forum........

its amazing how low lefties will go to keep a vote though.....
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ScoMo reckons he will win Eden-Monaro after he has so successfully whiteanted Labor.

The wacky Labor drongo is rattling on about the silly Greeny Climate Change SCAM. Don't these Labor fools ever learn ? The Climate Change SCAM was a big reason they lost the federal election as voters are sick of their contrived fairy tales.

Wonder if the Albo school boy is banned from appearing as he is a certain votes loser ?




Liberals confident they are in 'striking distance' of Eden-Monaro upset
By Rob Harris June 30, 2020 — 11.00pm

The Liberal Party believes it is within striking distance of causing a once-in-a-100-year upset in Saturday's Eden-Monaro byelection, as it attempts to wrestle the marginal seat off Labor.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison is expected to again campaign in the electorate in coming days alongside candidate Fiona Kotvojs, declaring on Tuesday: "I need her on my team this Saturday."

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Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Liberal candidate for Eden-Monaro Dr Fiona Kotvojs.CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

Several Liberal sources told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age the party remained an outsider in the race but the result would be "neck and neck" with Labor candidate Kristy McBain, with a huge pre-poll and postal vote meaning it was likely a result would not be known on Saturday night.

The last time an opposition lost a seat to a government at a byelection was in 1920, in the West Australian seat of Kalgoorlie, when Labor lost the seat to the Nationalist Party government.


Under fierce attacks from the opposition over his decision not to release the Department of Treasury's review into the government's $70 billion wage subsidy scheme, JobKeeper, Mr Morrison said he was "carefully weighing up" the important issues.

Labor has seized on modelling showing about 4800 businesses and an estimated 18,000 workers in the electorate, which takes in Queanbeyan and includes the towns of Yass, Bega and Cooma, were reliant on the subsidy.

Ms McBain and Labor's treasury spokesman Jim Chalmers have called on the government to release the review and reveal whether the $1500-a-fortnight payment would be made available beyond its September cut-out date.

"I've already flagged very clearly there will be a next phase and we are calibrating that next phase and targeting it to ensure that the support is there for those businesses and those employees who will continue to need it," Mr Morrison said.

"But for many other businesses, we're pleased to see that there has been some improvement and so these are decisions that you don't rush to meet Labor's timetable."

Dr Kotvojs, appearing alongside Mr Morrison at Lobs Hole in Kosciuszko National Park, was forced to defend a submission she made to the royal commission into the summer's bushfires.

Labor seized on the words, written by the candidate and her husband Alan Burdon in April, which called for fuel loads to be better managed and did not reference climate change.

"For us, there is only one issue — fuel load. Unless this is addressed, everything else is meaningless," they wrote.

Dr Kotvojs said she believed the climate was changing and that humans were contributing to that change.

"Where I live, the fires came through our farm and we watched them coming at Cobargo, into Dignams Creek, and the areas where there been hazard reduction already occur, the fire came through low intensity and much slower," she said.

"It caused much less damage. The area where the hazard reduction hadn't occurred, the fire was just so intense. It's caused so much damage."


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Labor candidate Kristy McBain is aiming to retain the seat Mike Kelly won in 2019 before leaving politics.CREDIT:ALEX ELLINGHAUSEN

Ms McBain, who stood aside as Bega Valley mayor to contest the by-election, said on Tuesday that holding onto the seat vacated by two-time MP Mike Kelly was going to be "difficult".

ALP sources told The Herald that preferences from the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party would be critical for the party's chances to retaining the seat. Mr Kelly won by about 1 per cent last May.

They said it remained uncertain whether Nationals voters would give their second preference to the Liberals and there was an grassroots campaign among some party members to send a protest vote elsewhere.



Ms McBain said the community was "really hurting" after drought, bushfire and the COVID-19 pandemic, which has shut down the tourism sector.

"I've spoken to so many business owners, so many residents. Everybody is really concerned about the future of their work, the future of their jobs," she said.

"They actually want someone that's going to go into bat for them long term. Not someone that just shows up during a by-election, but someone who's already got their runs on the board."

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how many time has Albo been to eden Monaro??


he would have more time on his hands after all... Undecided Undecided
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The ineffective Socialist HATE Pit tactics in Eden Monaro.



Paul Bongiorno: Dirty tricks and attack ads in the garden of Eden-Monaro
6:00am, Jun 30, 2020 Updated: 1:26pm, Jun 30

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The Eden-Monaro byelection will be decided this Saturday. Photo: TND


Attack ads can tell you a lot about what the major parties think are the weaknesses of their opponents in any election.

Saturday’s Eden-Monaro by-election is no exception.

The Liberals think Labor’s biggest problem is that it is in opposition while Labor sees being in government as the Liberals’ biggest drag.

The Liberals began a heavy schedule of their attack ad in prime time on the weekend hoping to scare the estimated 80,000 electors who haven’t yet voted.


In this time of coronavirus we are seeing a record number of  pre-poll and postal votes.

According to the Australian Electoral Commission, 30,000 have already marked their ballot papers.

The Liberal ad on the commercial networks that regional channels beamed into the sprawling southern New South Wales electorate are typical of the genre – black-and-white images with the most unflattering pictures of Bill Shorten and Anthony Albanese they can find.

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In a blast from the past, the Liberal attack ads feature Bill Shorten.

That’s right Bill Shorten – Liberal strategists clearly think that a reprise of their successful tax and spend campaign against Labor last year is worth another shot at snatching victory.


The image of Mr Shorten morphs into Labor’s candidate Kristy McBain.

The charismatic candidate is obviously scary to her opponents, so we are reminded that while she was mayor of Bega she raised rates by 8 per cent after Council’s “budget blew out with a $9 million deficit.”

The voiceover concludes “as we rebuild our economy Labor means more uncertainty”.

Except that even if Ms McBain wins, it would be at least two years before she or Labor get a chance to tax or spend anything.

Labor insiders still spooked by the shock loss of last year’s election worry that this sort of advertising works.

But it is truly a strange tack from a government facing a record Budget deficit of its own – well over an eye-watering $100 billion.

The fact is the government not only faces the uncertainty of a deepening recession and ballooning unemployment but also a huge question mark over what it is going to do about it.

It hints some elements of JobKeeper will be kept and JobSeeker will not be  stripped back to the old below-the-poverty-line $40 a day like Newstart.


But it refuses to give detailed commitments and warns it can’t afford to be as generous as it has been.

Economists like those at the Grattan Institute and the Nine Newspapers’ Ross Gittens keep warning this is a recipe for an even harsher recession.

Labor’s attack ad homes in on this concern tracked by the Australia Institute’s poll that found 64 per cent of Eden-Monaro voters want JobKeeper retained and extended beyond its September deadline.

Labor avoids the stark black-and-white ugly pictures instead going straight for the government’s throat: “If you think small businesses need more support and can’t afford to lose JobKeeper just yet, the Eden-Monaro by-election is your chance to tell the Liberals that.”


Surely if Mr Morrison was confident he had good news for voters on this front he would trumpet it – his reluctance a dead giveaway that disappointing news is merely being postponed.

Somebody who doesn’t want Labor’s Ms McBain to win has orchestrated bizarre emails to land in voters’ mailboxes.

One fake batch purported to be from an address linked to the Catholic Church. Another falsely appeared linked to a news site and claimed the Labor candidate had COVID-19 and was withdrawing.

The AEC has asked the federal police to investigate, but after the Angus Taylor forged letter probe that doesn’t inspire confidence.


Ms McBain told Triple M Riverina “most people are sick of this old-school negative politics and constant attacks”.

She said it is what it is and “we move forward”.

But not to be underestimated is Mr Morrison’s entrenched record approval rates in Newspoll, the fact that the Liberals candidate Fiona Kotvojs came very close last time, and the party is spending more money than it did then.

All the effort at the general election went to the PM’s captain’s pick, the Labor turncoat Warren Mundine in neighbouring Gilmore.

That misjudgment has been addressed according to a local Liberal.


Saturday will be an acid test for both the Liberal and Labor leaders.

Mr Morrison’s ability to translate his rock star ratings into real votes is facing a reality check.

And Mr Albanese’s capacity as a vote magnet faces its first trial.


Paul Bongiorno AM is a veteran of the Canberra Press Gallery, with 40 years’ experience covering Australian politics

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juliar is distracting from the fact they have no facts.
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BH, waving his arms around while sitting on his armchair, would not know a fact if it fell on him.


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Snowy 2.0 - a Liberal achievement boosting Eden Monaro.

Snowy 2.0 will create thousands of local jobs. It's good for Eden-Monaro businesses, our environment, and our local economy. Work has now commenced on a manufacturing plant for some of the crucial piping infrastructure Snowy 2.0 will need.

And this is the work of the Libs.  Labor can't work out how to damage this project.

There is even a video of this magnificent project which is now part of ScoMo's WWII style massive infrastructure projects to help Australia recover from the Virus.

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Juliar, unaware of what facts are. Twitter vids from candidates arent those.
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BH why do you bother ?
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juliar wrote on Jul 1st, 2020 at 10:41am:
BH why do you bother ?




Why do you? All you post is propaganda with no intellectual examination of it.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 1st, 2020 at 10:59am:
juliar wrote on Jul 1st, 2020 at 10:41am:
BH why do you bother ?




Why do you? All you post is propaganda with no intellectual examination of it.


Paid to post.

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Nothing to see here ... Labor should win it ... my guess is a margin of 3% to 4%.

Let's face it:

100 years of stats saying governments don't win by-elections from opposition held seats.

Donkey vote going to Labor.

"Gun lobby" preferences going to Labor.


If Labor loses this one, Albo is toast.

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Meanwhile ... at Snowy 2.0 ...

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BH, stop trying to sound intelligent. You know you don't have a clue about technical and scientific stuff. But cooking is where you shine.

Capt N will go into hiding if Libs win.
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If Albo loses or just scrapes in EdenMonaro byelection  - it seems the only reason he remains ALP Leader will be because
JE Chalmers and Wayne Swan want the heat to go out of the Moselmane and Somyurek issues and some ScoMo popularity to decline before Albo's mulched!!!!


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Bam wrote on Jul 3rd, 2020 at 6:11pm:


Lets see if Juliar disappears for a few days Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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John Smith wrote on Jul 3rd, 2020 at 7:19pm:
Bam wrote on Jul 3rd, 2020 at 6:11pm:


Lets see if Juliar disappears for a few days Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



He hasn't been on for a few days ... maybe it really was him  Cheesy Cheesy
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Whilst it's early in the count yet, it looks like labor will win it.
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Shaping up to be much closer than I expected.

Very interesting that the Greens vote is quite poor.

8.7% last election, this time around 6%

Perhaps Albo's move to "defuse" the Climate Change debate is having some impact?

Labor's Primary vote down about 3%

Not great.

It looks like Labor will win (yes, yes, a win is a win) ... but to fall over the line on the donkey vote; a deal with the "gun lobby" and leakage from the Nats is nothing to crow about.  Tongue

Perhaps Albo is going to have a sore neck* for the next year or so?  Wink






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Watch the postal votes. They won't favour the Coalition as much as they have done in previous elections.
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Bam wrote on Jul 4th, 2020 at 11:50pm:
Watch the postal votes. They won't favour the Coalition as much as they have done in previous elections.


That's true. Far more postals than usual and Labor put a lot of effort into them this time round.


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John Smith wrote on Jul 4th, 2020 at 7:35pm:
Whilst it's early in the count yet, it looks like labor will win it.


That's sad - I don't want any more sheilas in politics... not party ones, anyway... only honest ones.
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Reply #58 - Jul 5th, 2020 at 9:31am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 1:44am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 4th, 2020 at 7:35pm:
Whilst it's early in the count yet, it looks like labor will win it.


That's sad - I don't want any more sheilas in politics... not party ones, anyway... only honest ones.


So grap, your sad because another woman has entered the parliament. And are you implying she is dishonest?
After a particular dirty campaign by the libs and the media against labor (as usual), kristy and albo have carried it home for labor. And for a laugh, it was reported on news this morning the libs were claiming victory! Only in the dirty tricks department you scumbags! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #59 - Jul 5th, 2020 at 9:33am
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 1:44am:
John Smith wrote on Jul 4th, 2020 at 7:35pm:
Whilst it's early in the count yet, it looks like labor will win it.


That's sad - I don't want any more sheilas in politics... not party ones, anyway... only honest ones.


you need to worry about the sheila in your mirror more than the ones in politics.
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Damn. Forgot to vote yesterday.  Tongue Embarrassed
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Reply #61 - Jul 5th, 2020 at 11:32am
 
Jasin wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 10:15am:
Damn. Forgot to vote yesterday.  Tongue Embarrassed


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Reply #62 - Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:08pm
 
It shows Albo is hanging on by his finger tips. When will Shifty old Shorty have a go ?

ScoMo shook them up real good. How much Labor branch stacking went on ?  Lib candidate first over the line.

Have the Shooters shot themselves in the foot by supporting the weaker candidate ? 

Now the Greenies will run riot in Eden Monaro banning ALL undergrowth clearing in the forest to guarantee a really BIG bushfire next time.
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Reply #63 - Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm
 
The spin-doctors will try to spin it ... but that was a pretty crap result for Labor.

A drop of 3% in the Primary Vote

Libs went up 1% in the Primary Vote.

If not for the donkey vote and preference deals with the Shooters and some Nationals vote preference leaks, Labor would have lost it.  Shocked

Tell ya what ... if Albo can't get his Preferred PM rating up to 40% in time for the next federal election... Labor is stuffed.

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Reply #64 - Jul 5th, 2020 at 7:07pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
The spin-doctors will try to spin it ... but that was a pretty crap result for Labor.

That was a pretty crap analysis.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
A drop of 3% in the Primary Vote

Mike Kelly's personal vote was about 3%.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
Libs went up 1% in the Primary Vote.

No Palmer party candidate, and we all know the Palmer party was just a stalking horse for the Libs.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
If not for the donkey vote and preference deals with the Shooters and some Nationals vote preference leaks, Labor would have lost it.  Shocked

Labor got those preferences though. You also did not mention any preferences going to the Libs, particularly from the Greens.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
Tell ya what ... if Albo can't get his Preferred PM rating up to 40% in time for the next federal election... Labor is stuffed.

When Australians have got Scummo on TV every day being propped up by others, it's easy for him to look good.

Don't assume that Scummo's current honeymoon will last. It won't. Wait three or four months. If he messes up the economy by fouling up any recovery, his ratings will plunge, he will own the recession, and his government will meet the usual fate of governments in recessions: the fast lane to a long stint in Opposition.
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Reply #65 - Jul 5th, 2020 at 8:00pm
 
The shocked Socialists are grabbing anything that floats past as even they can see that Labor will remain in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.

Now the shocked citizens of Eden Monaro can savior the fowl result of their stupidity with Greenies running wild preparing for the next big ferocious bushfire to burn the place to the ground again as they BAN ANY UNDERGROWTH clearing.
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Reply #67 - Jul 5th, 2020 at 9:30pm
 
More Socialist rubbish. Fact is that ScoMo towered above squeaminsh Albo. Libs won on genuine votes.

Now Eden Monaro can wreak the benefits of their stupidity as Labor will do NOTHING for them except support the mad as cut snakes Greenies preparing to burn the joint down again.
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juliar wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
More Socialist rubbish. Fact is that ScoMo towered above squeaminsh Albo. Libs won on genuine votes.

A typical Lib who doesn't understand how preferential voting works.

juliar wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
Now Eden Monaro can wreak the benefits of their stupidity as Labor will do NOTHING for them except support the mad as cut snakes Greenies preparing to burn the joint down again.

Fake news and wild-eyed nonsense from the paid-per-post Libtroll.
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Reply #69 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 12:38am
 
A win is a win no matter how close.... Golden Point, innit?
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Bam wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 7:07pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
The spin-doctors will try to spin it ... but that was a pretty crap result for Labor.

That was a pretty crap analysis.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
A drop of 3% in the Primary Vote

Mike Kelly's personal vote was about 3%.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
Libs went up 1% in the Primary Vote.

No Palmer party candidate, and we all know the Palmer party was just a stalking horse for the Libs.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
If not for the donkey vote and preference deals with the Shooters and some Nationals vote preference leaks, Labor would have lost it.  Shocked

Labor got those preferences though. You also did not mention any preferences going to the Libs, particularly from the Greens.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5th, 2020 at 3:15pm:
Tell ya what ... if Albo can't get his Preferred PM rating up to 40% in time for the next federal election... Labor is stuffed.

When Australians have got Scummo on TV every day being propped up by others, it's easy for him to look good.

Don't assume that Scummo's current honeymoon will last. It won't. Wait three or four months. If he messes up the economy by fouling up any recovery, his ratings will plunge, he will own the recession, and his government will meet the usual fate of governments in recessions: the fast lane to a long stint in Opposition.


Indeed it won't. When scummos cash splash comes to an end and it's time to pay the piper, people will see how hopeless this pack of corrupt aceholes are. Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #71 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 8:42am
 
Gee the burnt Socialists are trying to celebrate the FAKE WIN in Eden Monaro where the dumb Eden Monaro residents will now be punished for the havoc they have wreaked upon themselves.

Labor will do nothing for them except support the angry Greenies in BANNING the clearing of undergrowth in the forests so the next bushfire will be even more fierce.

Even the bushfire relief has not been given to the residents as no doubt Labor was going to prioritize residents depending on whether they are Socialist or not.

How much branch stacking occurred in the Labor camp ? Sounds like the Shooters have shot themselves in the foot.


But it is not over yet.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVUShugYBxE

The Liberal Party could take several days to concede defeat following the Eden-Monaro by-election on Saturday as 700 votes remain between Labor candidate Kristy McBain and the Liberal’s Fiona Kotvojs with a few thousand postal ballots still to count.

Ms McBain claimed victory over the ultra-marginal seat on Sunday afternoon following a win made possible by preferences from the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party.

Polling results from Saturday also showed the continuation of a trend in the Nationals Party losing votes in regional areas to the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party.

Nationals Leader Matt Canavan said action must be taken in response to traditional party voters “who are going off in other directions, who are having dalliances with other parties.”

Well they may hold the seat but they've lost a great deal of support along with the greens. I guess the people didn't fall for the climate alarmism over the fires.

People stomachs and assets override climate change.  It’s Called jobs

Labor wont see power again for another decade at least. Progressives have ruined it for them.

Rigged like everything else. As if anybody except a few thousand already programmed university brats want more Communism. If you still think Labor is for the workers it's time to wake up. Neither Party will save you from what's coming but Labor is on fast track. Try surviving Victoria right now. Megalomaniacs like Dictator Daniel Andrews are on a killing spree. He's so excited by the death count. Not from the "virus" from the suicides and lock downs. Making people sick. He's thrilled. Giddy even.

For those who care about facts and real news: the last time Eden-Monaro did not go to preferences was 43 years ago, in 1977. This was the sixteenth election in a row at which the seat was decided on preferences.

One is always disappointed to see so many informal votes:  6.4% in Eden Monaro yesterday.
Plus it looks like a huge number of people didn't turn out to vote - will probably be somewhere between 15 and 20% when the final votes come in.
How can voting be made easier?

it’s noteworthy that the "winner" in Eden Monaro had to rely on preferences.

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The writing is on the wall for temporary Albo as Labor accepts being in Opposition for the next 20 years

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Reply #72 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 9:26am
 
With a coalition partner like the Nats of today, the Libs would be better off going it alone.

As for the Shooters and Fishers… they have done exactly what small breakaway parties have always done in this country – shot themselves in the proverbial foot over some personal sleight someone in its leadership felt they had been dealt. And given their party’s name, that’s a really unfortunate analogy if all too accurate.




Political “bastardry” in Eden-Monaro!
AMM 06.07.20.

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Weeks before the advent of the Eden-Monaro by-elections NSW National’s Leader John Barilaro jousted with NSW MP Andrew Constance over who would contest that vacant seat.

That all fizzled accompanied by a public, vitriolic exchange from Barilaro to the village idiot and National’s leader Michael McCormack.

It would appear that PM Morrison and McCormack did not support Barilaro—hence Barilaro’s bizarre behaviour.

But that fails to eclipse that of the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party that has seriously shot itself not in the foot, but squarely in the head.

Such a crazy choice to preference Labor has shocked its supporters.

The political future of the SFF party seems bleak indeed. Meanwhile rancour will continue until the Nationals dump their village idiot who is a catalyst for division!

There can be little doubt that one man’s vanity — or insanity — project looks set to rob Scott Morrison of what would have been a historic victory at the weekend.

The NSW Nationals leader and Deputy Premier, John Bari­laro, made no secret of his desire for the seat of Eden-Monaro ­to remain in Labor hands.


Barilaro bastardry cost PM an historic victory in Eden-Monaro
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He actively campaigned for this very outcome, having effectively endorsed Labor candidate Kristy McBain.

Gobsmacked senior Liberals say they have never seen anything like it. And the Prime Minister has every right to be filthy.

The Liberal Party didn’t have high expectations of pulling off a one-in-100-year by-election victory but it held out hopes in the final week of campaigning.

And the results prove that they were right to be hopeful.
But for an act of political bastardry by Barilaro, whose motives need little explanation, Eden-Monaro would probably be back in Coalition hands.

While Labor leader Anthony Albanese can claim an “ugly victory”, he should take little comfort from the result. The swing against Labor, both on primary vote and the two-party-preferred, should be of deep concern for the Opposition Leader.
If this result reflects Labor’s grand plan to win the next federal election, things aren’t looking too good.

Labor has kept the seat — with the caveat that there are still a couple of thousand postal votes to be counted — because of a kooky coalition of preferences from the fringes of the left and the right but also from the Nationals.

There were obvious reasons the federal Nationals did not want to run a candidate, all of which have been confirmed by the result. They went backwards and contributed to a Liberal loss with a 20 per cent flow of preferences to Labor.

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack’s impotence as federal Nationals leader has again been exposed through his inability to stop Barilaro running riot through the entire campaign.

As if his leadership wasn’t ­already in strife.


The Deputy NSW Premier’s shenanigans, and public encouragement to put Labor ahead of the Liberals is as inexplicable as his self-indulgent carry-on over his decision to denominate himself as the Nationals candidate in the first place.
Yet his contribution to this ­result goes much further.

He is equally culpable for the rise of the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers party in his own backyard — the state seat of Monaro — having done nothing to try to prevent it. That a fringe party based on conservative ideology preferenced Labor was just ­another quirk of a by-election that fielded 14 candidates, many from the outer reaches of space.

Morrison will be buoyed by the swing to the Liberals, considering by-elections normally swing against the government, but the Liberal campaign was nobbled from the start.

If the final result comes down to a few hundred votes in Labor’s favour, which it appears it will, Barilaro could rightly be held as singularly ­responsible for denying the Prime Minister the win and the federal government another seat in a tightly contested parliament.

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Reply #73 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 9:37am
 
The evil GetUp! terrorists show up again!!!!!

Will ALBO Follow, give me a break, he spruiked the ABC in all speeches, GetUp! is a political propaganda arm to Labor and the Greens are losing voters (is a good thing).

With luck, the voter will eventually get the Green slime out and Labor will have to do deals with all the 1% idiots. Labor vote went backwards and the Greens backwards (no more 10% deals )

Best way to counter that is to publish some of their monstrous ABC salaries alongside the number of minutes of work done per week.

The ABC are terrified of this sort of publicity, and so they should be, it’s a rip off of taxpayers money.



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GetUp! meddles in Eden-Monaro by-election!
AMM 06.07.20.

It seems most likely that any success or voter influence GetUp has in Australia’s political affairs is pretty much on the back of MSM that views the activists as a story and gives them oxygen, which, without would see the rabble suffocate.

It is simple—if people ignored any and every word they spruiked there would be no GetUp! because supporters would stop donating to a no-performance bunch of hucksters!

GetUp! used a campaign blitz in Saturday’s Eden Monaro by-election to road-test a 2022 federal election issue it reckons will take skin, and seats, off the Coalition.

The pitch? “Protecting the ABC.”

Diary hears GetUp! made its presence felt in Eden Monaro during voting, ahead of Labor’s apparent narrow victory, with a vocal campaign against government funding levels.

But what was more interesting was that GetUp!’s ABC pitch seemed closely synchronised with Labor’s.



Labor joins GetUp! for ABC blitz
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GetUp!’s Paul Oosting was first out of the blocks with a press release blitz last Tuesday. The ABC, he declared, was a “vote-deciding” issue. “It’s time to end the political interference (at the ABC),” Oosting said.

Like clockwork, hours later, Labor joined in, issuing a 30-second “vote Labor to save the ABC” ad, featuring ABC on-air talent, including Q&A host Hamish McDonald and several other personalities to back its case.

But should that ad have been allowed to remain up?

As of Sunday, the ad was still on Labor’s Twitter feed despite questions about whether ABC talent should be used for political purposes. And after the polls closed, Labor leader Anthony Albanese pointedly tweeted: “I want to thank everyone who voted for a strong ABC.”


In the lead-up, Albo pledged to reverse the ABC funding freeze. Meanwhile, GetUp! forked out for ABC polling, releasing an “electorate snapshot” that claimed 70 per cent of Eden Monaro residents wanted more funding for Aunty.

For friends of the ABC, the by-election was indeed a gift: a very marginal seat up for grabs 10 days after big ABC cuts.

With uncanny foresight, GetUp! had also strategically released a 60-page report just two months ago (days after the by-election was announced) to detail “the damage this government’s aggressive agenda of cuts has inflicted on the ABC”.

That GetUp! report was authored by Emma Dawson, long-time policy adviser to ex-Labor communications minister Stephen Conroy. Dawson is close to the ABC’s head of strategy Mark Tapley, after the pair worked hand-in-glove for Labor’s Conroy when Tapley was the ex-communications minister’s chief of staff.

In the 2019 federal election, GetUp! started small, trialling an ABC cinema ad pitch in three marginals: Boothby and Mayo in South Australia, and Wentworth in Sydney.

But with Dawson’s ABC report in tow this time, GetUp! is likely to go bigger with a national campaign in 2022. Will Albo follow?


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Reply #74 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 9:42am
 
The Liberal Candidate Kotvojs was popular because of her Anti-High Rise Condos and Block Mansions right on pristine Coastlines and more.
McBain was popular for her effort in the Wild Fires.
Both were a win/win for Eden-Monaro.
Kotvojs was highly accredited in fields of expertise.
McBain had that strong 'who you know' with Eden-Monaro locals.
It was a close Election.

We will see if McBain just turns into looking after her own business first like Constance did, with 'personal ambition' as the priority?
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How true - anything Labor is riddled with corruption.
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It depends on McBain now. Will she just be a Gillard, using Eden-Monaro to service her own personal agenda and self-promotion?
Or will she turn out like Clover Moore and make Eden-Monaro its own little Kingdom of worth and toil?
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Reply #77 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 10:41am
 
It is a win ...

BUT

A by-election would normally see a swing against the government of between 3% and 4%.

This result is a small swing to the government. In a by-election!  Shocked

Last year, the winning margin was 1,685 votes.

This year ... in a by-election! ... the margin is currently 742 votes.

i.e. Labor went backwardsShocked That's with the donkey vote and leakage from the Nats!  Cheesy

On first preferences ... Labor is -3.20% Libs are +1.28%  Huh

"Mr. 26%*" has nothing to crow about.  Wink





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Reply #78 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 10:53am
 
As can be seen by Liars desperate non stop posting of garbage, the libs are in panic mode as they realise the cat is out of the bag. Scummo has no more cash to splash and he's got nothing else. Albo is moving in for the kill.  Grin Grin Grin
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The Big Mac is talking about Labor's panic over the very near miss. Albo is already past tense.

The Lib won on first votes. Only after the Shooters shot themselves in the foot did the Labor failure crawl across the line.
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Reply #81 - Jul 6th, 2020 at 7:21pm
 
The forlorn Socialists are trying to take out their frustration on me for pointing out what a disaster Eden Monaro is for Labor where their crummy candidate was beaten on the first pass.

Now the dumb Eden Monaro residents can rue their stupidity as the Labor failure will and can do nothing for them and appears to have even blocked the distribution of relief funds to the bushfire victims as no doubt the plan was to distribute funds to the Socialists first.

And all the while the slimy GetUp! is lurking in the swamp.
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Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 6th, 2020 at 10:41am:
It is a win ...

BUT

A by-election would normally see a swing against the government of between 3% and 4%.

This result is a small swing to the government. In a by-election!  Shocked

Last year, the winning margin was 1,685 votes.

This year ... in a by-election! ... the margin is currently 742 votes.

i.e. Labor went backwardsShocked That's with the donkey vote and leakage from the Nats!  Cheesy

On first preferences ... Labor is -3.20% Libs are +1.28%  Huh

"Mr. 26%*" has nothing to crow about.  Wink





* Albo's current Preferred PM rating.

Don't try electoral analysis. You're rubbish at it.

Again - since you seem to be a little slow understanding this - Mike Kelly's personal vote was about 3%. His personal vote was good enough in 2016 to win Eden-Monaro for an opposition party for the first time since 1969 and he retained it in 2019. Losing that personal vote explains almost the entire drop in Labor's vote.

Secondly, the election is being run at a time of great convenience for the government: at the height of the pandemic (where Morrison has succeeded in claiming some credit for the work of others) and not during the aftermath (the consequent economic issues). If you're smart, you would have noticed how the timing of some of the less popular decisions have been conveniently timed to fall after the by-election.

Thirdly, elections in Australia are not run using first past the post, it uses preferential voting. Citing primary votes is irrelevant without any objective analysis of preferences.

Fourthly, you're ignoring the reasonable quality of both major party candidates. Both locals, both polled well in their respective localities.

Lastly, you've not given any consideration to the field. In particular, the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party did not run during the election but got around 5% of the vote this time. Their preferences split evenly. Palmer's party did not run this time, they did in 2016 (when they received 2.8% of the vote). What was the effect on the major parties' primary votes of these candidates? What about the other 11 candidates?

All in all, it was not a very good analysis. I could pick more holes in it, but what I have posted will do.
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Reply #83 - Jul 7th, 2020 at 11:32am
 
John Smith wrote on Jul 6th, 2020 at 2:59pm:
I see Juliar made bail Roll Eyes

Maybe the Mafia or some illicit drug lord came through with the cash for the Libs again.
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BTW ...

I notice that the postal votes were still going in favour of the Libs by about 6% ... better than normal for Labor, but even after Labor put in a massive effort this time, they just can't seem to get those pesky postals to run in their favour.  Shocked
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