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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46588 Gender:	Re: Eden-Monaro: Labor caught with unauthorised poster Reply #60 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 10:15am Damn. Forgot to vote yesterday.
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10312 Gender:	Re: Eden-Monaro: Labor caught with unauthorised poster Reply #61 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 11:32am Jasin wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 10:15am: Damn. Forgot to vote yesterday. It was just another jurassic biff up Lib Lab erection, it doesn't mean anything, they're past their use-by date. They'll now rob your bank account for not paying enough attention to their egotistical grunting and snorting
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Reply #62 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:08pm

It shows Albo is hanging on by his finger tips. When will Shifty old Shorty have a go ?

ScoMo shook them up real good. How much Labor branch stacking went on ? Lib candidate first over the line.

Have the Shooters shot themselves in the foot by supporting the weaker candidate ?

Now the Greenies will run riot in Eden Monaro banning ALL undergrowth clearing in the forest to guarantee a really BIG bushfire next time.

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Reply #63 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm

The spin-doctors will try to spin it ... but that was a pretty crap result for Labor.

A drop of 3% in the Primary Vote

Libs went up 1% in the Primary Vote.

If not for the donkey vote and preference deals with the Shooters and some Nationals vote preference leaks, Labor would have lost it. Shocked

Tell ya what ... if Albo can't get his Preferred PM rating up to 40% in time for the next federal election... Labor is stuffed.

« Last Edit: Jul 5^th, 2020 at 4:44pm by Captain Nemo »

The 2025 election could be a shocker.

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Reply #64 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 7:07pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

The spin-doctors will try to spin it ... but that was a pretty crap result for Labor.

That was a pretty crap analysis.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

A drop of 3% in the Primary Vote

Mike Kelly's personal vote was about 3%.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

Libs went up 1% in the Primary Vote.

No Palmer party candidate, and we all know the Palmer party was just a stalking horse for the Libs.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

If not for the donkey vote and preference deals with the Shooters and some Nationals vote preference leaks, Labor would have lost it. Shocked

Labor got those preferences though. You also did not mention any preferences going to the Libs, particularly from the Greens.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

Tell ya what ... if Albo can't get his Preferred PM rating up to 40% in time for the next federal election... Labor is stuffed.

When Australians have got Scummo on TV every day being propped up by others, it's easy for him to look good.

Don't assume that Scummo's current honeymoon will last. It won't. Wait three or four months. If he messes up the economy by fouling up any recovery, his ratings will plunge, he will own the recession, and his government will meet the usual fate of governments in recessions: the fast lane to a long stint in Opposition.

You are not entitled to your opinion. You are only entitled to hold opinions that you can defend through sound, reasoned argument.

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Reply #65 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 8:00pm

The shocked Socialists are grabbing anything that floats past as even they can see that Labor will remain in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.

Now the shocked citizens of Eden Monaro can savior the fowl result of their stupidity with Greenies running wild preparing for the next big ferocious bushfire to burn the place to the ground again as they BAN ANY UNDERGROWTH clearing.

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Bam Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21905 Gender:	Re: Eden-Monaro: McBain wins it for Labor Reply #66 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 8:21pm Eden-Monaro's results are tight enough that Scott Morrison and Anthony Albanese can take a boost from it
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juliar Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 22966	Re: Eden-Monaro: Labor caught with unauthorised poster Reply #67 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 9:30pm More Socialist rubbish. Fact is that ScoMo towered above squeaminsh Albo. Libs won on genuine votes. Now Eden Monaro can wreak the benefits of their stupidity as Labor will do NOTHING for them except support the mad as cut snakes Greenies preparing to burn the joint down again.
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Reply #68 - Jul 5^th, 2020 at 11:20pm

juliar wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 9:30pm:

More Socialist rubbish. Fact is that ScoMo towered above squeaminsh Albo. Libs won on genuine votes.

A typical Lib who doesn't understand how preferential voting works.

juliar wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 9:30pm:

Now Eden Monaro can wreak the benefits of their stupidity as Labor will do NOTHING for them except support the mad as cut snakes Greenies preparing to burn the joint down again.

Fake news and wild-eyed nonsense from the paid-per-post Libtroll.

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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80318 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: Eden-Monaro: Labor caught with unauthorised poster Reply #69 - Jul 6^th, 2020 at 12:38am A win is a win no matter how close.... Golden Point, innit?
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Reply #70 - Jul 6^th, 2020 at 7:43am

Bam wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 7:07pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

The spin-doctors will try to spin it ... but that was a pretty crap result for Labor.

That was a pretty crap analysis.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

A drop of 3% in the Primary Vote

Mike Kelly's personal vote was about 3%.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

Libs went up 1% in the Primary Vote.

No Palmer party candidate, and we all know the Palmer party was just a stalking horse for the Libs.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

If not for the donkey vote and preference deals with the Shooters and some Nationals vote preference leaks, Labor would have lost it. Shocked

Labor got those preferences though. You also did not mention any preferences going to the Libs, particularly from the Greens.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 5^th, 2020 at 3:15pm:

Tell ya what ... if Albo can't get his Preferred PM rating up to 40% in time for the next federal election... Labor is stuffed.

Indeed it won't. When scummos cash splash comes to an end and it's time to pay the piper, people will see how hopeless this pack of corrupt aceholes are. Grin

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Reply #71 - Jul 6^th, 2020 at 8:42am

Gee the burnt Socialists are trying to celebrate the FAKE WIN in Eden Monaro where the dumb Eden Monaro residents will now be punished for the havoc they have wreaked upon themselves.

Labor will do nothing for them except support the angry Greenies in BANNING the clearing of undergrowth in the forests so the next bushfire will be even more fierce.

Even the bushfire relief has not been given to the residents as no doubt Labor was going to prioritize residents depending on whether they are Socialist or not.

How much branch stacking occurred in the Labor camp ? Sounds like the Shooters have shot themselves in the foot.

But it is not over yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVUShugYBxE

The Liberal Party could take several days to concede defeat following the Eden-Monaro by-election on Saturday as 700 votes remain between Labor candidate Kristy McBain and the Liberal’s Fiona Kotvojs with a few thousand postal ballots still to count.

Ms McBain claimed victory over the ultra-marginal seat on Sunday afternoon following a win made possible by preferences from the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party.

Polling results from Saturday also showed the continuation of a trend in the Nationals Party losing votes in regional areas to the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party.

Nationals Leader Matt Canavan said action must be taken in response to traditional party voters “who are going off in other directions, who are having dalliances with other parties.”

Well they may hold the seat but they've lost a great deal of support along with the greens. I guess the people didn't fall for the climate alarmism over the fires.

People stomachs and assets override climate change. It’s Called jobs

Labor wont see power again for another decade at least. Progressives have ruined it for them.

Rigged like everything else. As if anybody except a few thousand already programmed university brats want more Communism. If you still think Labor is for the workers it's time to wake up. Neither Party will save you from what's coming but Labor is on fast track. Try surviving Victoria right now. Megalomaniacs like Dictator Daniel Andrews are on a killing spree. He's so excited by the death count. Not from the "virus" from the suicides and lock downs. Making people sick. He's thrilled. Giddy even.

For those who care about facts and real news: the last time Eden-Monaro did not go to preferences was 43 years ago, in 1977. This was the sixteenth election in a row at which the seat was decided on preferences.

One is always disappointed to see so many informal votes: 6.4% in Eden Monaro yesterday.
Plus it looks like a huge number of people didn't turn out to vote - will probably be somewhere between 15 and 20% when the final votes come in.
How can voting be made easier?

it’s noteworthy that the "winner" in Eden Monaro had to rely on preferences.

The writing is on the wall for temporary Albo as Labor accepts being in Opposition for the next 20 years

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Reply #72 - Jul 6^th, 2020 at 9:26am

With a coalition partner like the Nats of today, the Libs would be better off going it alone.

As for the Shooters and Fishers… they have done exactly what small breakaway parties have always done in this country – shot themselves in the proverbial foot over some personal sleight someone in its leadership felt they had been dealt. And given their party’s name, that’s a really unfortunate analogy if all too accurate.

Political “bastardry” in Eden-Monaro!
AMM 06.07.20.

Weeks before the advent of the Eden-Monaro by-elections NSW National’s Leader John Barilaro jousted with NSW MP Andrew Constance over who would contest that vacant seat.

That all fizzled accompanied by a public, vitriolic exchange from Barilaro to the village idiot and National’s leader Michael McCormack.

It would appear that PM Morrison and McCormack did not support Barilaro—hence Barilaro’s bizarre behaviour.

But that fails to eclipse that of the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party that has seriously shot itself not in the foot, but squarely in the head.

Such a crazy choice to preference Labor has shocked its supporters.

The political future of the SFF party seems bleak indeed. Meanwhile rancour will continue until the Nationals dump their village idiot who is a catalyst for division!

There can be little doubt that one man’s vanity — or insanity — project looks set to rob Scott Morrison of what would have been a historic victory at the weekend.

The NSW Nationals leader and Deputy Premier, John Barilaro, made no secret of his desire for the seat of Eden-Monaro to remain in Labor hands.

Barilaro bastardry cost PM an historic victory in Eden-Monaro
Source: Simon Benson, News Corp

He actively campaigned for this very outcome, having effectively endorsed Labor candidate Kristy McBain.

Gobsmacked senior Liberals say they have never seen anything like it. And the Prime Minister has every right to be filthy.

The Liberal Party didn’t have high expectations of pulling off a one-in-100-year by-election victory but it held out hopes in the final week of campaigning.

And the results prove that they were right to be hopeful.
But for an act of political bastardry by Barilaro, whose motives need little explanation, Eden-Monaro would probably be back in Coalition hands.

While Labor leader Anthony Albanese can claim an “ugly victory”, he should take little comfort from the result. The swing against Labor, both on primary vote and the two-party-preferred, should be of deep concern for the Opposition Leader.
If this result reflects Labor’s grand plan to win the next federal election, things aren’t looking too good.

Labor has kept the seat — with the caveat that there are still a couple of thousand postal votes to be counted — because of a kooky coalition of preferences from the fringes of the left and the right but also from the Nationals.

There were obvious reasons the federal Nationals did not want to run a candidate, all of which have been confirmed by the result. They went backwards and contributed to a Liberal loss with a 20 per cent flow of preferences to Labor.

Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack’s impotence as federal Nationals leader has again been exposed through his inability to stop Barilaro running riot through the entire campaign.

As if his leadership wasn’t already in strife.

The Deputy NSW Premier’s shenanigans, and public encouragement to put Labor ahead of the Liberals is as inexplicable as his self-indulgent carry-on over his decision to denominate himself as the Nationals candidate in the first place.
Yet his contribution to this result goes much further.

He is equally culpable for the rise of the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers party in his own backyard — the state seat of Monaro — having done nothing to try to prevent it. That a fringe party based on conservative ideology preferenced Labor was just another quirk of a by-election that fielded 14 candidates, many from the outer reaches of space.

Morrison will be buoyed by the swing to the Liberals, considering by-elections normally swing against the government, but the Liberal campaign was nobbled from the start.

If the final result comes down to a few hundred votes in Labor’s favour, which it appears it will, Barilaro could rightly be held as singularly responsible for denying the Prime Minister the win and the federal government another seat in a tightly contested parliament.

https://morningmail.org/political-bastardry-in-eden-monaro/#more-118512

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Reply #73 - Jul 6^th, 2020 at 9:37am

The evil GetUp! terrorists show up again!!!!!

Will ALBO Follow, give me a break, he spruiked the ABC in all speeches, GetUp! is a political propaganda arm to Labor and the Greens are losing voters (is a good thing).

With luck, the voter will eventually get the Green slime out and Labor will have to do deals with all the 1% idiots. Labor vote went backwards and the Greens backwards (no more 10% deals )

Best way to counter that is to publish some of their monstrous ABC salaries alongside the number of minutes of work done per week.

The ABC are terrified of this sort of publicity, and so they should be, it’s a rip off of taxpayers money.

GetUp! meddles in Eden-Monaro by-election!
AMM 06.07.20.

It seems most likely that any success or voter influence GetUp has in Australia’s political affairs is pretty much on the back of MSM that views the activists as a story and gives them oxygen, which, without would see the rabble suffocate.

It is simple—if people ignored any and every word they spruiked there would be no GetUp! because supporters would stop donating to a no-performance bunch of hucksters!

GetUp! used a campaign blitz in Saturday’s Eden Monaro by-election to road-test a 2022 federal election issue it reckons will take skin, and seats, off the Coalition.

The pitch? “Protecting the ABC.”

Diary hears GetUp! made its presence felt in Eden Monaro during voting, ahead of Labor’s apparent narrow victory, with a vocal campaign against government funding levels.

But what was more interesting was that GetUp!’s ABC pitch seemed closely synchronised with Labor’s.

Labor joins GetUp! for ABC blitz
Source: Nick Tabakoff. News Corp

GetUp!’s Paul Oosting was first out of the blocks with a press release blitz last Tuesday. The ABC, he declared, was a “vote-deciding” issue. “It’s time to end the political interference (at the ABC),” Oosting said.

Like clockwork, hours later, Labor joined in, issuing a 30-second “vote Labor to save the ABC” ad, featuring ABC on-air talent, including Q&A host Hamish McDonald and several other personalities to back its case.

But should that ad have been allowed to remain up?

As of Sunday, the ad was still on Labor’s Twitter feed despite questions about whether ABC talent should be used for political purposes. And after the polls closed, Labor leader Anthony Albanese pointedly tweeted: “I want to thank everyone who voted for a strong ABC.”

In the lead-up, Albo pledged to reverse the ABC funding freeze. Meanwhile, GetUp! forked out for ABC polling, releasing an “electorate snapshot” that claimed 70 per cent of Eden Monaro residents wanted more funding for Aunty.

For friends of the ABC, the by-election was indeed a gift: a very marginal seat up for grabs 10 days after big ABC cuts.

With uncanny foresight, GetUp! had also strategically released a 60-page report just two months ago (days after the by-election was announced) to detail “the damage this government’s aggressive agenda of cuts has inflicted on the ABC”.

That GetUp! report was authored by Emma Dawson, long-time policy adviser to ex-Labor communications minister Stephen Conroy. Dawson is close to the ABC’s head of strategy Mark Tapley, after the pair worked hand-in-glove for Labor’s Conroy when Tapley was the ex-communications minister’s chief of staff.

In the 2019 federal election, GetUp! started small, trialling an ABC cinema ad pitch in three marginals: Boothby and Mayo in South Australia, and Wentworth in Sydney.

But with Dawson’s ABC report in tow this time, GetUp! is likely to go bigger with a national campaign in 2022. Will Albo follow?

https://morningmail.org/getup-meddled-in-eden-monaro-by-election/#more-118505

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Reply #74 - Jul 6^th, 2020 at 9:42am

The Liberal Candidate Kotvojs was popular because of her Anti-High Rise Condos and Block Mansions right on pristine Coastlines and more.
McBain was popular for her effort in the Wild Fires.
Both were a win/win for Eden-Monaro.
Kotvojs was highly accredited in fields of expertise.
McBain had that strong 'who you know' with Eden-Monaro locals.
It was a close Election.

We will see if McBain just turns into looking after her own business first like Constance did, with 'personal ambition' as the priority?

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