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Reply #1 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:38pm
 
if guilty, throw him in jail and throw away the key.

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Reply #2 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:48pm
 
Labor is past it's use-by date, it needs to re-invent itself or it will wither away and die

Keep voting for Labor if you wish, but understand that it will get worse if it doesn't bring itself into the 21st Century

That goes for the other jurassic major party as well
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Reply #3 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:57pm
 
Bammy missed the boat as topic is already extensively examined as just another example of gross Labor corruption.
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Reply #4 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:02pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Labor is past it's use-by date, it needs to re-invent itself or it will wither away and die

Keep voting for Labor if you wish, but understand that it will get worse if it doesn't bring itself into the 21st Century

That goes for the other jurassic major party as well

The difference between Labor and Liberal:

Labor expels problematic members. The Liberal party sends them to the backbench as if the backbench was a sin bin and then brings them back later.
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Reply #5 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:18pm
 
You can feel the heat coming out of the Socialist Hate Pit.
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Reply #6 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:21pm
 
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Labor is past it's use-by date, it needs to re-invent itself or it will wither away and die

Keep voting for Labor if you wish, but understand that it will get worse if it doesn't bring itself into the 21st Century

That goes for the other jurassic major party as well

The difference between Labor and Liberal:

Labor expels problematic members. The Liberal party sends them to the backbench as if the backbench was a sin bin and then brings them back later.


And gives them an Order of Australia
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Reply #7 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:43pm
 
Not only are communists hiding in the Labor party
there could be some in the Liberal party - Gladys Liu -
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/gladys-liu-proud-australi...

I am sure that many communists are hiding
right here at Ozpolitic in plain site.
I have suspicions about the following posters:
Monk,
Greggy,
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Aussie.
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Re: ASIO raids home of NSW Labor MP
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I have suspicions we have homos hiding in Ozpol as well:

Turd Burgulars
Cock Suckers
Girly Boys
Bum Punchers

To name some symptoms!

Cant think of who that is at the moment!



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Reply #9 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:22pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:18pm:
I have suspicions we have homos hiding in Ozpol as well:

Turd Burgulars
Cock Suckers
Girly Boys
Bum Punchers

To name some symptoms!

Cant think of who that is at the moment!




I'm sure they're here - hiding somewhere.

What about your politics Red?
You're not a commie are you?
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Reply #10 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:29pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:22pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:18pm:
I have suspicions we have homos hiding in Ozpol as well:

Turd Burgulars
Cock Suckers
Girly Boys
Bum Punchers

To name some symptoms!

Cant think of who that is at the moment!




I'm sure they're here - hiding somewhere.

What about your politics Red?
You're not a commie are you?



Yeah well a leftie so is that a commie?

Apparently according to your heroin BO the fake American RepublicanNazi Bully that is!

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Re: ASIO raids home of NSW Labor MP
Reply #11 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:40pm
 
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Labor is past it's use-by date, it needs to re-invent itself or it will wither away and die

Keep voting for Labor if you wish, but understand that it will get worse if it doesn't bring itself into the 21st Century

That goes for the other jurassic major party as well

The difference between Labor and Liberal:

Labor expels problematic members. The Liberal party sends them to the backbench as if the backbench was a sin bin and then brings them back later.

Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #12 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:42pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
Not only are communists hiding in the Labor party
there could be some in the Liberal party - Gladys Liu -
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/gladys-liu-proud-australi...

I am sure that many communists are hiding
right here at Ozpolitic in plain site.
I have suspicions about the following posters:
Monk,
Greggy,
Smith &
Aussie.




not sure how they would be a threat to Australia bobby??>..ozpol at that grand you know. Smiley
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Re: ASIO raids home of NSW Labor MP
Reply #13 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:46pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:18pm:
I have suspicions we have homos hiding in Ozpol as well:

Turd Burgulars
Cock Suckers
Girly Boys
Bum Punchers

To name some symptoms!

Cant think of who that is at the moment!



Goober, can you think of anyone?
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Re: ASIO raids home of NSW Labor MP
Reply #14 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:47pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
Not only are communists hiding in the Labor party
there could be some in the Liberal party - Gladys Liu -
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/gladys-liu-proud-australi...

I am sure that many communists are hiding
right here at Ozpolitic in plain site.
I have suspicions about the following posters:
Monk,
Greggy,
Smith &
Aussie.


not sure how they would be a threat to Australia bobby??>..ozpol at that grand you know. Smiley



Commies infiltrate everywhere and change the narrative.
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Reply #15 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:48pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:47pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
Not only are communists hiding in the Labor party
there could be some in the Liberal party - Gladys Liu -
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/gladys-liu-proud-australi...

I am sure that many communists are hiding
right here at Ozpolitic in plain site.
I have suspicions about the following posters:
Monk,
Greggy,
Smith &
Aussie.


not sure how they would be a threat to Australia bobby??>..ozpol at that grand you know. Smiley



Commies infiltrate everywhere and change the narrative.



my narrative has been pretty consistent for over ten years now.

You're a closet gay idiot.

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Reply #16 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:15pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:40pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Labor is past it's use-by date, it needs to re-invent itself or it will wither away and die

Keep voting for Labor if you wish, but understand that it will get worse if it doesn't bring itself into the 21st Century

That goes for the other jurassic major party as well

The difference between Labor and Liberal:

Labor expels problematic members. The Liberal party sends them to the backbench as if the backbench was a sin bin and then brings them back later.

Grin Grin Grin Grin

So tell me cods ... the last 10 times that Libs were caught branch stacking, how many MPs were expelled from the party as a result?
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Reply #17 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:23pm
 
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:40pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Labor is past it's use-by date, it needs to re-invent itself or it will wither away and die

Keep voting for Labor if you wish, but understand that it will get worse if it doesn't bring itself into the 21st Century

That goes for the other jurassic major party as well

The difference between Labor and Liberal:

Labor expels problematic members. The Liberal party sends them to the backbench as if the backbench was a sin bin and then brings them back later.

Grin Grin Grin Grin

So tell me cods ... the last 10 times that Libs were caught branch stacking, how many MPs were expelled from the party as a result?



tell me the last time they made headlines BAM   because it was THAT BIG...

I dont know of any that have been found GUILTY...

didnt you guys even have branch BASHINGS.. Smiley Smiley


just sayin!
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Reply #18 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:47pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
Not only are communists hiding in the Labor party
there could be some in the Liberal party - Gladys Liu -
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/gladys-liu-proud-australi...

I am sure that many communists are hiding
right here at Ozpolitic in plain site.
I have suspicions about the following posters:
Monk,
Greggy,
Smith &
Aussie.


not sure how they would be a threat to Australia bobby??>..ozpol at that grand you know. Smiley



Commies infiltrate everywhere and change the narrative.



well the four you point out

certainly dont influence ME or anyone I know bobby..

in fact the more I rad of them the more I turn away from them....if they influence you shame on you bobs.

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Reply #19 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:30pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:47pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
Not only are communists hiding in the Labor party
there could be some in the Liberal party - Gladys Liu -
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/gladys-liu-proud-australi...

I am sure that many communists are hiding
right here at Ozpolitic in plain site.
I have suspicions about the following posters:
Monk,
Greggy,
Smith &
Aussie.


not sure how they would be a threat to Australia bobby??>..ozpol at that grand you know. Smiley



Commies infiltrate everywhere and change the narrative.



well the four you point out

certainly dont influence ME or anyone I know bobby..

in fact the more I read of them the more I turn away from them....if they influence you shame on you bobs.





Their work is subtle - you don't always notice it.
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Reply #20 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 7:54pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:30pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:47pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
Not only are communists hiding in the Labor party
there could be some in the Liberal party - Gladys Liu -
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/gladys-liu-proud-australi...

I am sure that many communists are hiding
right here at Ozpolitic in plain site.
I have suspicions about the following posters:
Monk,
Greggy,
Smith &
Aussie.


not sure how they would be a threat to Australia bobby??>..ozpol at that grand you know. Smiley



Commies infiltrate everywhere and change the narrative.



well the four you point out

certainly dont influence ME or anyone I know bobby..

in fact the more I read of them the more I turn away from them....if they influence you shame on you bobs.





Their work is subtle - you don't always notice it.




I think I would if it was having an effect bobby  and thats what I am on about..

if they influence you even in a subtle way    thats your problem..not theres... in fact when it comes to you they are more rude than anything else....so why they would influence you is a mystery.

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Reply #21 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 8:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:43pm:
Not only are communists hiding in the Labor party
there could be some in the Liberal party - Gladys Liu -
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/sep/11/gladys-liu-proud-australi...

I am sure that many communists are hiding
right here at Ozpolitic in plain site.
I have suspicions about the following posters:
Monk,
Greggy,
Smith &
Aussie.


Iv'e got you at zero of four.

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Reply #22 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 11:15pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:23pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:40pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Labor is past it's use-by date, it needs to re-invent itself or it will wither away and die

Keep voting for Labor if you wish, but understand that it will get worse if it doesn't bring itself into the 21st Century

That goes for the other jurassic major party as well

The difference between Labor and Liberal:

Labor expels problematic members. The Liberal party sends them to the backbench as if the backbench was a sin bin and then brings them back later.

Grin Grin Grin Grin

So tell me cods ... the last 10 times that Libs were caught branch stacking, how many MPs were expelled from the party as a result?



tell me the last time they made headlines BAM   because it was THAT BIG...

Even though Australia's

I dont know of any that have been found GUILTY...

didnt you guys even have branch BASHINGS.. Smiley Smiley

just sayin!

Are you feigning ignorance, cods, or just refusing to see the truth? It's shown here and here, with links.
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Reply #23 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:02am
 
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 11:15pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:23pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 6:15pm:
cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 5:40pm:
Bam wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:02pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:48pm:
Labor is past it's use-by date, it needs to re-invent itself or it will wither away and die

Keep voting for Labor if you wish, but understand that it will get worse if it doesn't bring itself into the 21st Century

That goes for the other jurassic major party as well

The difference between Labor and Liberal:

Labor expels problematic members. The Liberal party sends them to the backbench as if the backbench was a sin bin and then brings them back later.

Grin Grin Grin Grin

So tell me cods ... the last 10 times that Libs were caught branch stacking, how many MPs were expelled from the party as a result?



tell me the last time they made headlines BAM   because it was THAT BIG...

Even though Australia's

I dont know of any that have been found GUILTY...

didnt you guys even have branch BASHINGS.. Smiley Smiley

just sayin!

Are you feigning ignorance, cods, or just refusing to see the truth? It's shown here and here, with links.



not at all pet.....where have I ever said they were perfect???.. and some of your lists are pretty old....we know you keep a diary on the libs     and totally ignore or make excuses for labor....you never let us down on that score....


how ever the Libs still lag behind your mob when it comes to corrupt behavior.....it doesnt matter which way you cut it... the left have had more corrupt MPs in Jail than the right will ever have.....

no matter how many issues you bring up..


read this bam   it only goes back to 2005....but if you read it you will discover it was pretty damning back then..http://newsweekly.com.au/article.php?id=2195
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Reply #24 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:16am
 
As branch stacking by both parties has been occurring over sever decades and maybe longer why have the Federal Police taken such an interest in this case....Could it be the evidence was caught on video or did someone lodge a complaint with the AFP....If either party had a real leader they would do something meaningful to stop it....Lying deceitful bastards, the lot of them!!!

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Reply #25 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 1:38pm
 
cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:02am:
not at all pet.....where have I ever said they were perfect???.. and some of your lists are pretty old....we know you keep a diary on the libs     and totally ignore or make excuses for labor....you never let us down on that score....

Don't tell lies, cods.

I created this thread!

Now will you apologise for lying?

And hypocrisy as well - a genetic failure of rightists. You do not get to demand others adhere to standards of behaviour that you refuse to follow yourself.
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Reply #26 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 1:46pm
 
You played it for her, now play it for me ...  Grin


'Flabbergasted': Dastyari calls for judicial inquiry into foreign influence in politics


By Jennifer Duke
Updated June 27, 2020 — 9.10amfirst published at 9.07am

Former Labor senator Sam Dastyari has called for a full judicial inquiry into foreign influence in Australian politics following a raid on suspended NSW MP Shaoquett Moselmane's home and office by federal agents looking for links to a Chinese government interference plot.

Mr Dastyari told Channel Nine's Today on Saturday morning he was "absolutely flabbergasted" by the developments, and attempts by foreign governments to interfere with Australian politics was a problem that needed a formal public investigation.

...

"We have to have a process in place and frankly you need to have some kind of a large public judicial inquiry to get to the bottom of what actually is foreign influence in Australian politics," he said.

"A lot of these are being conducted by agencies, like [Australian Security Intelligence Organisation] ASIO and ... others, has to happen behind closed doors because of the nature of those kinds of things.

"We need to have a large, public inquiry, be that a royal commission or a commission of inquiry, [to] shine some light on this and get to the bottom of it because I think this is very serious."

Labor suspended Mr Moselmane on Friday following raids of his home and parliamentary office. The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age are not suggesting the allegations involving Mr Moselmane and his office are proven, only they are the subject of an ASIO and federal police inquiry.

Mr Dastyari quit Parliament in 2017 following a series of revelations about his links to Chinese Communist Party-aligned interests in Australia, including allowing Chinese donors to make payments for his travel and legal bills.


"Look, what happened to me in my career a few years ago really should have been a canary in the coalmine when it comes to foreign influence and these kinds of pressures," he said on Saturday.

"The question you have to ask yourself is - are you using them or are they using you? And it's become very, very clear, and my case demonstrated this, is that they are using you."

Nick McKenzie, the investigative journalist at The Age and the Herald who broke the story about the investigation into Mr Moselmane, said on Today there had been debate for the last few years about the Chinese Communist Party's efforts to interfere with the Australian political system.

"We have had successive leaders of ASIO to say be careful, there is system set up by the Chinese government to do this. It's improper and from 2018 it became illegal, carrying very, very strict penalties," he said.

"So, despite all these warnings, it seems like Shaoquett Moselmane has potentially been at the very least ignorant of some very clear danger signs and [allegedly] allowed his office to be infiltrated by an operation by the Chinese Communist Party."

www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/flabbergasted-dastyari-calls-for-judicial-inq...
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Reply #27 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:13pm
 
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:16am:
As branch stacking by both parties has been occurring over sever decades and maybe longer why have the Federal Police taken such an interest in this case....Could it be the evidence was caught on video or did someone lodge a complaint with the AFP....If either party had a real leader they would do something meaningful to stop it....Lying deceitful bastards, the lot of them!!!

Angry Angry Angry


You do realise there is a byelection coming up in eden - monaro. This is just part of the libs campaign to screw labor.
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Reply #28 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 6:59pm
 
macman wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:13pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:16am:
As branch stacking by both parties has been occurring over sever decades and maybe longer why have the Federal Police taken such an interest in this case....Could it be the evidence was caught on video or did someone lodge a complaint with the AFP....If either party had a real leader they would do something meaningful to stop it....Lying deceitful bastards, the lot of them!!!

Angry Angry Angry


You do realise there is a byelection coming up in eden - monaro. This is just part of the libs campaign to screw labor.

And who's the chairman of Nine? Peter Costello.
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Reply #29 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm
 
Moselmane: A Muslim from Lebanon makes it to mayor and then into parliament on a racist agenda and all the while sucking on Chinese cock,, allegedly.

Multiculturalism we are standing in it.

Keep the gates SHUT.
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John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
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Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:28pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?
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Reply #33 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:40pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 1970 at 6:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.
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Is Sam Choy Bau on the comeback trail - coming home to Labor heartland as a cleanskin by denouncing his own past?
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A question everyone should consider: how did the media know about the raids with sufficient advance notice to get camera crews there? Tipping off the media was a breach of national security and whoever did it belongs in prison.
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Reply #36 - Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:08am
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 1970 at 6:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.



being 1 of 10 kids   could be a give away.... Roll Eyes
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macman wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 4:13pm:
philperth2010 wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:16am:
As branch stacking by both parties has been occurring over sever decades and maybe longer why have the Federal Police taken such an interest in this case....Could it be the evidence was caught on video or did someone lodge a complaint with the AFP....If either party had a real leader they would do something meaningful to stop it....Lying deceitful bastards, the lot of them!!!

Angry Angry Angry


You do realise there is a byelection coming up in eden - monaro. This is just part of the libs campaign to screw labor.




you do realise the report on Moselane  had been going on for over a year   long before Kelly decided to step down.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

then again   maybe you dont! Undecided
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Reply #38 - Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:30am
 
cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 1970 at 6:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.



being 1 of 10 kids   could be a give away.... Roll Eyes


Not necessarily ... i know several Lebanese catholic families with large broods.
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cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:11am:
you do realise the report on Moselane  had been going on for over a year   long before Kelly decided to step down.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

then again   maybe you dont!



and yet they waited until now before 60 minutes went to air with it Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #40 - Jun 28th, 2020 at 11:09am
 
Bam wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 1:38pm:
cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:02am:
not at all pet.....where have I ever said they were perfect???.. and some of your lists are pretty old....we know you keep a diary on the libs     and totally ignore or make excuses for labor....you never let us down on that score....

Don't tell lies, cods.

I created this thread!

Now will you apologise for lying?

And hypocrisy as well - a genetic failure of rightists. You do not get to demand others adhere to standards of behaviour that you refuse to follow yourself.

Funny how cods has gone really quiet all of a sudden on this.

Where's your apology, cods?
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Reply #41 - Jun 28th, 2020 at 12:24pm
 
Bam wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 11:09am:
Bam wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 1:38pm:
cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:02am:
not at all pet.....where have I ever said they were perfect???.. and some of your lists are pretty old....we know you keep a diary on the libs     and totally ignore or make excuses for labor....you never let us down on that score....

Don't tell lies, cods.

I created this thread!

Now will you apologise for lying?

And hypocrisy as well - a genetic failure of rightists. You do not get to demand others adhere to standards of behaviour that you refuse to follow yourself.

Funny how cods has gone really quiet all of a sudden on this.

Where's your apology, cods?




it isnt rocket science to work out I dont bother with people like you much  so rusted on  you are incomprehensible..

so you started a thread with teo links... SO WHAT   

where have you condemned this behavior...

you demand apologies  dont make me laugh bam...

show me where you have ever condemned anything from a labor minister.....you always always point your finger at the right  never ever fails..

John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:30am:
cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 1970 at 6:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.



being 1 of 10 kids   could be a give away.... Roll Eyes


Not necessarily ... i know several Lebanese catholic families with large broods.




oh you know everyone I keep forgetting that  Roll Eyes   Muslims are told to go forth and multiply   its the way they grow the faith you see.



John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:31am:
cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:11am:
you do realise the report on Moselane  had been going on for over a year   long before Kelly decided to step down.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

then again   maybe you dont!



and yet they waited until now before 60 minutes went to air with it Cheesy Cheesy

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  who!! what the?

whats branch stacking got to do with cosying up to the CCP? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:30am:
cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 1970 at 6:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.



being 1 of 10 kids   could be a give away.... Roll Eyes


Not necessarily ... i know several Lebanese catholic families with large broods.

He is a Muslim and his platform all along has been racism.

He is on the take from the Chinese.

He is on record calling white Australians scum, he is the racist.

He and his 10 siblings should be deported.

Moselmane was appointed to the Legislative Council on 3 December 2009, to fill a vacancy created by the resignation of Henry Tsang,[3] and is the first Muslim member of the New South Wales Parliament.[1]




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cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 12:24pm:
oh you know everyone I keep forgetting that


you forget lots of things.

cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 12:24pm:
Muslims are told to go forth and multiply   its the way they grow the faith you see.


actually, that's Christians. .. that quote is from the bible ..  Genesis 1:28 to be exact Cheesy Cheesy

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whats branch stacking got to do with cosying up to the CCP?




my mistake. Mixed up the two issues.
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Johnnie wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 2:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:30am:
cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 1970 at 6:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.



being 1 of 10 kids   could be a give away.... Roll Eyes


Not necessarily ... i know several Lebanese catholic families with large broods.

He is a Muslim and his platform all along has been racism.

He is on the take from the Chinese.

He is on record calling white Australians scum, he is the racist.

He and his 10 siblings should be deported.

Moselmane was appointed to the Legislative Council on 3 December 2009, to fill a vacancy created by the resignation of Henry Tsang,[3] and is the first Muslim member of the New South Wales Parliament.[1]







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Questions remain over Moselmane's influence amid international espionage investigation
28/06/2020

Senior Federal Labor MPs are questioning whether Shaoquett Moselmane is more “of a pawn or a player”, after the little-known MP faces allegations Chinese government operatives infiltrated his office.

Australian Federal Police raided the home of the little-known MP on Friday as part of an ongoing investigation headed by counter-espionage agency ASIO.

Mr Moselmane’s Labor membership has been suspended on Saturday amid the investigation into a possible breach of foreign interference laws.

Sky News understands four senior NSW Labor MPs have lobbied NSW Opposition leader Jodi McKay to force him to resign from parliament amid the ongoing scandal.

Sky News Political Editor Andrew Clennell said a senior Labor Federal told him it’s unlikely such a “lowly MP” could have had any influence over policy decisions.

Mr Clennell said Mr Moselmane is not known for his policy acumen.

“Moselmane is in parliament for two reasons. His ability to branch stack or recruit and his ability to fundraise,” he said.

“Labor sources have told me that Ernest Wong, who has also featured in ICAC hearings around Chinese donations and was drummed out of parliament last election, was there to fundraise with the Chinese community and Moselmane with the Muslim community particularly in Sydney’s south where he used to recruit from a mosque.”

"One if Moselmane’s Macquarie Street colleagues referred to him as a “dill” incapable of being any mastermind.

"But such was Moselmane’s branch stacking power in the party, he was said to have assisted Bill Shorten beat Albanese with his numbers in the 2013 Labor leadership contest," he said.

However, despite 11 years in parliament, Mr Moselmane has never been elevated to a frontbench position.


Mr Clennell said Mr Moselmane could be charged under the Federal Government’s Foreign Interference laws.

“The Foreign Interference laws came into place in 2018,” Mr Clennell said.

“There has not been a prosecution yet in relation to them, let’s see if there is one now.

“Moselmane and his staffer do not have the influence that the China-friendly Sam Dastyari had, that’s for sure. “

Mr Dastyari resigned from the Senate in 2017 over his dealings with a controversial Chinese businessman.


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Some are calling Musluman a useful idiot, others are calling him a lot worse.

We don't like them kind around here.

Muslim politicians sucking Chinese cock is multicuntalitism
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Johnnie wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 2:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:30am:
cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 1970 at 6:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.



being 1 of 10 kids   could be a give away.... Roll Eyes


Not necessarily ... i know several Lebanese catholic families with large broods.

He is a Muslim and his platform all along has been racism.

He is on the take from the Chinese.

He is on record calling white Australians scum, he is the racist.

He and his 10 siblings should be deported.

Moselmane was appointed to the Legislative Council on 3 December 2009, to fill a vacancy created by the resignation of Henry Tsang,[3] and is the first Muslim member of the New South Wales Parliament.[1]






One Usual Suspect to another... what is becoming of my country?  All these oddballs with strange ideas getting the sweet ride...

Time to take back the farm, methinks.  Not born here and a proven useful citizen - no standee for election or appointment.

Why - oh, why, did our politicians bring them here in numbers?   Roll Eyes  Is this a form of Moselmania?
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Bam wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 1:36pm:



if that's true (and I'm not sure I believe him), then the media and the AFP have questions to answer. They just destroyed his political career. No matter what happens from now on his name will always be tarnished.
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The Chinese will have to be more careful who they give bribes to in the utterly corrupt Labor Party. First Mr Been and now Moshy have let them down.

Not to mention Dangerous Dan down in Victoria.




Hacking, infiltration reminiscent of ‘Cold War statecraft’
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Liberal MP Dave Sharma has compared allegations foreign agents infiltrated the political office of NSW MP Shaoquett Moselmane to former senator Sam Dastyari after ASIO raised concerns he could be “tasked individual” of the Chinese Communist Party.

“We saw former NSW senator Sam Dastyari who was seemingly changing his position and arguing against his own party’s position on issues like the South China Sea because of some influence from mainland Chinese authorities,” Mr Sharma said.

“The allegation seems to be the same here with Shaoquett Moselmane, that he was basically acting as a spokesperson for Beijing in return for some sort of favour or benefit, that’s the allegation.

“This is not a sort of statecraft Australia is used to seeing, certainly not at least since the end of the Cold War.

“It should be a wakeup call.”

His remarks come after Australian Federal Police raided the Sydney home and parliamentary offices of Mr Moselmane, who was suspended from the Labor Party after the allegations surfaced, and the home of his part-time staffer John Zhang.

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Bam wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 1:36pm:



if that's true (and I'm not sure I believe him), then the media and the AFP have questions to answer. They just destroyed his political career. No matter what happens from now on his name will always be tarnished.

Yes, salt this to taste. It hasn't been confirmed independently whether he is actually a suspect.

If he isn't a suspect though, don't be surprised if these police agencies don't actually confirm it until after the by-election this weekend. We already know they are tainted by political interference.
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Wonder what propaganda GetUp! will come up with to try to save the day ?
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Bam wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 1:36pm:


Well, he would say that, would't he?

It seems one of his staffers is very definitely in the spotlight though.  Wink
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Mark Latham urges caution to make the dirt stick permanently on Moshy and the Labor Party.

Because otherwise the Labor Party will just stick him in purgatory for a while and then recycle him again - like Mr Been and Swanny.




Mark Latham urges caution as he calls for Shaoquett Moselmane to resign
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NSW One Nation Leader Mark Latham is calling on state Labor MP Shaoquett Moselmane to resign after his home was raided by the AFP.

The AFP and Attorney-General are investigating connections Mr Moselmane has with outside influences.

Chinese government agents are alleged to have infiltrated Mr Moselmane’s office in order to influence Australian politics, the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

The NSW MP denies any wrongdoing.

NSW Labor leader Jodi McKay says she will push for Mr Moselmane to be suspended from Parliament.

But Mark Latham told Ben Fordham information on the raids needs to be made public before action can be taken.

“Because it’s possible you could suspend this guy from the Parliament … and he goes to the Supreme Court and the decision is overturned.

“That would be a disaster for the Parliament so I’d urge a bit of caution.”


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The view from China:


Why has Moselmane become a scapegoat amidst widespread anti-China hysteria in Australia? What has China done to incur such fury and hostility from hawkish "panda-bashers" in Australia? China has demonstrated leadership as it has successfully brought the epidemic under control. What China has achieved to contain the outbreak and revive the economy has contributed to the international efforts to fight with the COVID-19.

What Moselmane voiced in his essays are not just compliments of China. He also mentioned the steadfast progress being made in other parts of the world.

That is obviously not acceptable for the anti-China politicians and media outlets down under. They have spared no effort to vilify and slam China at every chance. Some Australian media outlets have played a destructive role blaring rhetoric repeatedly that demonizes and stigmatizes China. Some media outlets even resorted to disinformation to stoke up the general public's ill feelings toward Beijing.

What Moselmane wrote "the dregs of White Australianism from the past" was intentionally mistranslated by an Australian reporter as, "obsolete scums of white Australia" in order to stir up public hatred.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192867.shtml


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juliar wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 4:52pm:
Mark Latham urges caution to make the dirt stick permanently on Moshy and the Labor Party.

Because otherwise the Labor Party will just stick him in purgatory for a while and then recycle him again - like Mr Been and Swanny.




Mark Latham urges caution as he calls for Shaoquett Moselmane to resign
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https://www.2gb.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2019/02/Mark-Latham.jpg

NSW One Nation Leader Mark Latham is calling on state Labor MP Shaoquett Moselmane to resign after his home was raided by the AFP.

The AFP and Attorney-General are investigating connections Mr Moselmane has with outside influences.

Chinese government agents are alleged to have infiltrated Mr Moselmane’s office in order to influence Australian politics, the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

The NSW MP denies any wrongdoing.

NSW Labor leader Jodi McKay says she will push for Mr Moselmane to be suspended from Parliament.

But Mark Latham told Ben Fordham information on the raids needs to be made public before action can be taken.

“Because it’s possible you could suspend this guy from the Parliament … and he goes to the Supreme Court and the decision is overturned.

“That would be a disaster for the Parliament so I’d urge a bit of caution.


https://www.2gb.com/mark-latham-urges-caution-as-he-calls-for-shaoquett-moselman...

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Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 5:06pm:
The view from China:


Why has Moselmane become a scapegoat amidst widespread anti-China hysteria in Australia? What has China done to incur such fury and hostility from hawkish "panda-bashers" in Australia? China has demonstrated leadership as it has successfully brought the epidemic under control. What China has achieved to contain the outbreak and revive the economy has contributed to the international efforts to fight with the COVID-19.

What Moselmane voiced in his essays are not just compliments of China. He also mentioned the steadfast progress being made in other parts of the world.

That is obviously not acceptable for the anti-China politicians and media outlets down under. They have spared no effort to vilify and slam China at every chance. Some Australian media outlets have played a destructive role blaring rhetoric repeatedly that demonizes and stigmatizes China. Some media outlets even resorted to disinformation to stoke up the general public's ill feelings toward Beijing.

What Moselmane wrote "the dregs of White Australianism from the past" was intentionally mistranslated by an Australian reporter as, "obsolete scums of white Australia" in order to stir up public hatred.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192867.shtml


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Feverish agit-prop.


Is it true though?  Because "the dregs of white Australianism" is actually indeed VERY VERY different to 'obesolte scums of White Australia."
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The new Coalition SetUp! group make the Socialist GetUp! Nongs look like a bunch of amateurs.

You can detect ScoMo's cunning hand in there.
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He is taking a self imposed holiday from politics,, and stay out.
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Reply #60 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 6:36pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 5:37pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 5:06pm:
The view from China:


Why has Moselmane become a scapegoat amidst widespread anti-China hysteria in Australia? What has China done to incur such fury and hostility from hawkish "panda-bashers" in Australia? China has demonstrated leadership as it has successfully brought the epidemic under control. What China has achieved to contain the outbreak and revive the economy has contributed to the international efforts to fight with the COVID-19.

What Moselmane voiced in his essays are not just compliments of China. He also mentioned the steadfast progress being made in other parts of the world.

That is obviously not acceptable for the anti-China politicians and media outlets down under. They have spared no effort to vilify and slam China at every chance. Some Australian media outlets have played a destructive role blaring rhetoric repeatedly that demonizes and stigmatizes China. Some media outlets even resorted to disinformation to stoke up the general public's ill feelings toward Beijing.

What Moselmane wrote "the dregs of White Australianism from the past" was intentionally mistranslated by an Australian reporter as, "obsolete scums of white Australia" in order to stir up public hatred.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192867.shtml


Cheesy


Feverish agit-prop.


Is it true though?  Because "the dregs of white Australianism" is actually indeed VERY VERY different to 'obesolte scums of White Australia."


It's not different. Either way it is very derogatory of white Australians who have actually made this country desirable to Turkish immigrants like Whasis Musselmanah.

Most of the non-European, tinted immigrants can't help themselves, many of them feel compelled to denigrate the achievements of white Europeans simply to lessen the contrast with the miserableness of their own cultural achievements and their limited contribution to humanity before they availed themselves to the benefits of Western civilizations. The exceptions, like VS Naipaul or Thomas Sowell, bring this point into a stark relief.

Most tinted 'intellectuals' are screaming about white privilege from their university positions - positions which did not exist in their pre-European cultures.

In any case, there are no races - but if you say that while white, you ARE a wacists, white fragility DENIER!!! (where did we hear that moniker before???)


This whole BLM/China wacism/identity politics wheeze is far too stupid - and that is it's greatest danger. you cannot reason with people who consciously put themselves OUTSIDE reasoning. It's Cambodia, 1975, Cultural Revolution, Kristallnacht.







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Reply #61 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 9:02pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 6:36pm:
tickleandrose wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 5:37pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 5:06pm:
The view from China:


Why has Moselmane become a scapegoat amidst widespread anti-China hysteria in Australia? What has China done to incur such fury and hostility from hawkish "panda-bashers" in Australia? China has demonstrated leadership as it has successfully brought the epidemic under control. What China has achieved to contain the outbreak and revive the economy has contributed to the international efforts to fight with the COVID-19.

What Moselmane voiced in his essays are not just compliments of China. He also mentioned the steadfast progress being made in other parts of the world.

That is obviously not acceptable for the anti-China politicians and media outlets down under. They have spared no effort to vilify and slam China at every chance. Some Australian media outlets have played a destructive role blaring rhetoric repeatedly that demonizes and stigmatizes China. Some media outlets even resorted to disinformation to stoke up the general public's ill feelings toward Beijing.

What Moselmane wrote "the dregs of White Australianism from the past" was intentionally mistranslated by an Australian reporter as, "obsolete scums of white Australia" in order to stir up public hatred.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1192867.shtml


Cheesy


Feverish agit-prop.


Is it true though?  Because "the dregs of white Australianism" is actually indeed VERY VERY different to 'obesolte scums of White Australia."


It's not different. Either way it is very derogatory of white Australians who have actually made this country desirable to Turkish immigrants like Whasis Musselmanah.

Most of the non-European, tinted immigrants can't help themselves, many of them feel compelled to denigrate the achievements of white Europeans simply to lessen the contrast with the miserableness of their own cultural achievements and their limited contribution to humanity before they availed themselves to the benefits of Western civilizations. The exceptions, like VS Naipaul or Thomas Sowell, bring this point into a stark relief.

Most tinted 'intellectuals' are screaming about white privilege from their university positions - positions which did not exist in their pre-European cultures.

In any case, there are no races - but if you say that while white, you ARE a wacists, white fragility DENIER!!! (where did we hear that moniker before???)


This whole BLM/China wacism/identity politics wheeze is far too stupid - and that is it's greatest danger. you cannot reason with people who consciously put themselves OUTSIDE reasoning. It's Cambodia, 1975, Cultural Revolution, Kristallnacht.



I disagree completely with you. 

The wording "Obsolute scums of white Australia" - written by our journalist, can be interpreted as describing each Australian with white heritage as being obsolute scums, regardless of what they do - if you just adding an 'n' at the end.  And it is done deliberately to incite reader's rage.   This is a small trick, but an obvious one.  Anyone who being to an arts degree or school can tell you that.

The wording "the dregs of white Australialism", is completely different.  White Australialism is different to White Australia, and White Australian.  It does not refer to a person or group of people.  Or rather, it refers to a belief that was outdated and no longer valid in modern society. 

Credit is where credit is due.  If there is concrete evidence that the MP is a Chinese Agent, then he should be charged as such, and then receive the proper punishment as prescribed by our law. 

However, if we go around, twisting his words, to further our own agenda that suits us or what ever politics it is at the time.  Then what have we become?  What is then the difference between our so call free media and the Chinese state controlled media?
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Do some research into the staffer he hired (a CCP drone) then come back and tell me this guy is innocent.
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Reply #63 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 10:25pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 11:44am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 2:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:30am:
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A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.



being 1 of 10 kids   could be a give away.... Roll Eyes


Not necessarily ... i know several Lebanese catholic families with large broods.

He is a Muslim and his platform all along has been racism.

He is on the take from the Chinese.

He is on record calling white Australians scum, he is the racist.

He and his 10 siblings should be deported.

Moselmane was appointed to the Legislative Council on 3 December 2009, to fill a vacancy created by the resignation of Henry Tsang,[3] and is the first Muslim member of the New South Wales Parliament.[1]






One Usual Suspect to another... what is becoming of my country?  All these oddballs with strange ideas getting the sweet ride...

Time to take back the farm, methinks.  Not born here and a proven useful citizen - no standee for election or appointment.

Why - oh, why, did our politicians bring them here in numbers?   Roll Eyes  Is this a form of Moselmania?

I worked my guts out only to see this happen to my country.
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Reply #64 - Jun 29th, 2020 at 10:29pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 10:25pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 29th, 2020 at 11:44am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 2:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 9:30am:
cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:08am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:40pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:32pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 9:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Jan 3rd, 1970 at 6:15am:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 8:44pm:
A Muslim from Lebanon



how do you know he's muslim?


Knowing things just isn't your strong point.


i certainly don't know his religion nor do I pretend to. Again, how do you know he's muslim? Is this another of those blame everything on muslims things or do you actually know it for a fact?


That's a fact, Jack.



being 1 of 10 kids   could be a give away.... Roll Eyes


Not necessarily ... i know several Lebanese catholic families with large broods.

He is a Muslim and his platform all along has been racism.

He is on the take from the Chinese.

He is on record calling white Australians scum, he is the racist.

He and his 10 siblings should be deported.

Moselmane was appointed to the Legislative Council on 3 December 2009, to fill a vacancy created by the resignation of Henry Tsang,[3] and is the first Muslim member of the New South Wales Parliament.[1]






One Usual Suspect to another... what is becoming of my country?  All these oddballs with strange ideas getting the sweet ride...

Time to take back the farm, methinks.  Not born here and a proven useful citizen - no standee for election or appointment.

Why - oh, why, did our politicians bring them here in numbers?   Roll Eyes  Is this a form of Moselmania?

I worked my guts out only to see this happen to my country.


I, for one, welcome our new, insect overlords.
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Reply #65 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 12:17am
 
This is one Muslim that should be given the electric chair, he is a piece of sh!t.
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Reply #66 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 1:31pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Jun 30th, 2020 at 12:17am:
This is one Muslim that should be given the electric chair, he is a piece of sh!t.

Due process of law is a concept you have difficulty with. Freedom of religion is another.
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Reply #67 - Jun 30th, 2020 at 5:42pm
 
Bam wrote on Jun 30th, 2020 at 1:31pm:
Johnnie wrote on Jun 30th, 2020 at 12:17am:
This is one Muslim that should be given the electric chair, he is a piece of sh!t.

Due process of law is a concept you have difficulty with. Freedom of religion is another.

He is working for China as it seems, if he pulled the same caper over there he would disappear or be given a trial and then shot.

Being a Muslim wouldn't do him any favors either, i heard today they are going to start sterilizing Muslims there.
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