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Jun 25th, 2020 at 1:39am
 
An important reckoning with a great historical injustice is underway in Australia which presents the world with a rare opportunity to look into the darker corners of the corridors of power too often ignored by even the most ardent truth seekers among us.

This reckoning has taken the form of a four-year, hard fought legal battle which a lone crowd funded Australian historian named Jenny Hocking waged in the highest courts of her nation to win the right on May 30, 2020 to make 211 secret letters held within Australia’s National Archives public for the first time since they were deposited in 1978.

These palace letters were written between the Queen of England (via her personal secretary) and her Governor General in Australia Sir John Kerr during the latter’s tenure as official Head of State during the interim of 1974-1978 and until last week’s court ruling, were intended to be kept hidden until December 8, 2037.

What makes these letters such a point of national controversy is that they contain information which will undoubtedly shed light upon the active role of the Queen herself in carrying out an act which essentially amounted to a modern coup d’état of November 11, 1975. During this sad period, Kerr made history by not only sacking the elected Prime Minister Gough Whitlam, but also revealed the scope and nature of the British Monarchy’s very real powers in our modern age.

These are bizarre god-like prerogative powers which those forces controlling today’s globally extended empire would much rather keep concealed from public view.

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Well may we say God save the queen...
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Reply #1 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 8:00am
 
I think most people who lived through that time are aware of who the corrupt asshole was in this whole affair....... try Kerrs Cur.
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UK had no 'role' in Whitlam's sacking, Australia on the other hand requested it before he bankrupted the country.
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Fuzzball wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 9:07am:
UK had no 'role' in Whitlam's sacking, Australia on the other hand requested it before he bankrupted the country.


Have you seen what the current organised crime syndicate (coalition government) has done to Australia?

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One of those moments in history - November 11th 1975 - where just about everyone remembers where they were and what they were doing when they heard the news.

I was in Perth City walking near the former Musgroves (music store) in Murray Street opposite Forrest Place when I saw a 'flyer' for the afternoon's (now defunct) Daily News newspaper outside a nearby newsagent and the 'flyer' announced in huge black letters: WHITLAM SACKED

I remember like it were only yesterday. I was 18 years old at the time. Smiley
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Reply #6 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 9:59am
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 9:54am:
One of those moments in history - November 11th 1975 - where just about everyone remembers where they were and what they were doing when they heard the news.

I was in Perth City walking near the former Musgroves (music store) in Murray Street opposite Forrest Place when I saw a 'flyer' for the afternoon's (now defunct) Daily News newspaper outside a nearby newsagent and the 'flyer' announced in huge black letters: WHITLAM SACKED

I remember like it were only yesterday. I was 18 years old at the time. Smiley


I remember protesting on the steps of Old Parliament House that evening.
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Carl D wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 9:54am:
One of those moments in history - November 11th 1975 - where just about everyone remembers where they were and what they were doing when they heard the news.

I was in Perth City walking near the former Musgroves (music store) in Murray Street opposite Forrest Place when I saw a 'flyer' for the afternoon's (now defunct) Daily News newspaper outside a nearby newsagent and the 'flyer' announced in huge black letters: WHITLAM SACKED

I remember like it were only yesterday.


I remember that too.

And turning to the back of the Daily News and looking for the mouse in Langoulant's cartoon.

Musgroves was in Hay St back then, though.

It was where JB HiFi is now - the narrow one, down the escalators.



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Reply #8 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:07am
 
Thanks, Greg.

I must have been a bit 'hazy' with my recollection of Musgroves at the time. I'm sure it was there at some point although it may have been one of the others like Vox Adeon (which eventually became Archie Martin Vox).
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I am so looking forward to reading that correspondence.  Kerr's cur, indeed.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:01am:
Musgroves was in Hay St back then, though.

It was where JB HiFi is now - the narrow one, down the escalators.



Actually, I think that 'downstairs' JB HiFi has gone now. Didn't particularly like going down there, All I could think of was 'earthquake' or 'fire' and how the heck would people get out quickly in the event of either one.

I could never understand why JB had 3 stores in such close proximity to each other - the 'downstairs' one in the Hay St. Mall, the one in Enex100 and the third one in Piccadilly Arcade.
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Reply #11 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:20am
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:07am:
Thanks, Greg.

I must have been a bit 'hazy' with my recollection of Musgroves at the time. I'm sure it was there at some point although it may have been one of the others like Vox Adeon (which eventually became Archie Martin Vox).


Yep, they moved around a bit.

You might be right though.

They started in Murray St, at number 223 (where Zara is now).

They might not have moved to Hay St until 1977.

And then, they moved back to Murray St a few decades later, near Shafto Lane.

But yeah, back in 1975 they probably were opposite Forrest Place.

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Carl D wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:01am:
Musgroves was in Hay St back then, though.

It was where JB HiFi is now - the narrow one, down the escalators.



Actually, I think that 'downstairs' JB HiFi has gone now. Didn't particularly like going down there, All I could think of was 'earthquake' or 'fire' and how the heck would people get out quickly in the event of either one.

I could never understand why JB had 3 stores in such close proximity to each other - the 'downstairs' one in the Hay St. Mall, the one in Enex100 and the third one in Piccadilly Arcade.


The downstairs one is gone?

I didn't know that - I'm going to Enex now, so I'll check it out.

And yeah, three stores so close was always a bit crazy.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:23am:
Carl D wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:01am:
Musgroves was in Hay St back then, though.

It was where JB HiFi is now - the narrow one, down the escalators.



Actually, I think that 'downstairs' JB HiFi has gone now. Didn't particularly like going down there, All I could think of was 'earthquake' or 'fire' and how the heck would people get out quickly in the event of either one.

I could never understand why JB had 3 stores in such close proximity to each other - the 'downstairs' one in the Hay St. Mall, the one in Enex100 and the third one in Piccadilly Arcade.


The downstairs one is gone?

I didn't know that - I'm going to Enex now, so I'll check it out.

And yeah, three stores so close was always a bit crazy.


Oh, yeah.

That's right - they closed the downstairs one and opened a mega store in Murray St (upstairs, above Woolworths).
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Reply #14 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:55am
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:07am:
Thanks, Greg.

I must have been a bit 'hazy' with my recollection of Musgroves at the time. I'm sure it was there at some point although it may have been one of the others like Vox Adeon (which eventually became Archie Martin Vox).


It's coming back to me now.

There was a fire in the Musgroves building in the '70s, and they moved to Hay St after that.

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Reply #15 - Jun 25th, 2020 at 1:15pm
 
The woeful Whitlam was the worst ever "PM" in Australia until Juliar Gillard flopped onto the scene.

Witless Whitlam did certainly clarify the role of the GG. Sir John Kerr saved Australia from the Socialist Disease.

Just think if Labor had gotten in then the GG would almost certainly have had to dismiss the grossly woeful Shifty old Shorty.

Where does Labor dig up these awful creations - Oh yes from the odiferous Union pool of Brown Nosers.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:46am:
That's right - they closed the downstairs one and opened a mega store in Murray St (upstairs, above Woolworths).


Ah, yep - where Dick Smith Electronics used to be. Actually, a few years back someone working at Woolworths there told me that Woollies were thinking about moving into that upstairs area after Dick Smith, Red Dot, Millers, etc. had closed and the whole upstairs area was being renovated but they must have changed their mind.

Can't imagine why they would want to do that anyway... surely they would get more shoppers when they're on the ground floor and people just walk in from the Murray St. Mall.
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Reply #17 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 10:26am
 
Cool heads avoided a bigger problem. Kerr was appointed by  Whitlam and the Queen could have been advised to call off her corgi cur.  Kerr could have told Gough to clear off , called in the Army and fought parliament. Liz would get a dreadful head-ache.

"The actual powers of the Governor-General as commander-in-chief are not defined in the constitution, but rather in the Defence Act 1903 and other legislation. They include appointing the Chief of the Defence Force and authorising the deployment of troops."
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Reply #18 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 10:40am
 
Carl D wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 9:45am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 10:46am:
That's right - they closed the downstairs one and opened a mega store in Murray St (upstairs, above Woolworths).


Ah, yep - where Dick Smith Electronics used to be. Actually, a few years back someone working at Woolworths there told me that Woollies were thinking about moving into that upstairs area after Dick Smith, Red Dot, Millers, etc. had closed and the whole upstairs area was being renovated but they must have changed their mind.

Can't imagine why they would want to do that anyway... surely they would get more shoppers when they're on the ground floor and people just walk in from the Murray St. Mall.


I always thought that upstairs area would have been a good place for a CBD Aldi store.

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Kerr sackeg Gough and the electorate confirmed the sacking a month later.  Labor lost 30 seats of the 66 it had.

1975 election result : Labor 36, Coalition 91. There has never been a more decisive Labor defeat.

Gough was a great and charismatic  man but a dreadful PM.




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Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 12:42pm:
Kerr sackeg Gough and the electorate confirmed the sacking a month later.  Labor lost 30 seats of the 66 it had.

1975 election result : Labor 36, Coalition 91. There has never been a more decisive Labor defeat.

Gough was a great and charismatic  man but a dreadful PM.





Thank God for Scotty from Marketing.

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Gough was like a Labor cough.  What a purge of the Socialist Virus in Australia that was when Sir John Kerr kicked the Socialist miscreant out.

Gough the FABIAN Socialist started more sick Socialist disease in this country than even Gillard did.

And how evil are the FABIAN Socialists ?   https://www.fabians.org.au/mission_and_history

One of the glorious Socialist diseases the evil Gough started was the dumbing down of Australians by perverting the Australian education into a sick diseased Greeny propaganda brain washing system.

Think the unsanitary insanity of the Greeny attack on statues currently going on.
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Reply #22 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:04pm
 
Ppl like juliar didnt like gough because he started the single mothers pension. thats why all the extreme righties think he was going to "bankrupt" australia.

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Reply #23 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 12:49pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 12:42pm:
Kerr sackeg Gough and the electorate confirmed the sacking a month later.  Labor lost 30 seats of the 66 it had.

1975 election result : Labor 36, Coalition 91. There has never been a more decisive Labor defeat.

Gough was a great and charismatic  man but a dreadful PM.





Thank God for Scotty from Marketing.


Well, he beat Hillary Shorten ....
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The Socialists discouraged by Albo revere the evil extremist FABIAN Socialist Gough as a Labor HERO because he caused so much damage to Australia just like Gillard and Krudd did.
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Fuzzball wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 9:07am:
UK had no 'role' in Whitlam's sacking, Australia on the other hand requested it before he bankrupted the country.


Not much of a Whitlam apologist here but the truth should always be at the front. All of the Whitlam budgets were in surplus and no debt was left. An unpopular fact but the truth at least.

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The fact is the FABIAN Socialist Whitlam was the worst "PM" ever seen in Australia until Juliar Gillard flopped onto the scene.

That's why Sir John had to boot him out before he totally stuffed up Australia.

Where do the Unions find these nauseating creatures ?
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Fuzzball wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 9:07am:
UK had no 'role' in Whitlam's sacking, Australia on the other hand requested it before he bankrupted the country.


Do you get sick of just making stuff up ?

We had the same thing happen in a recent election where apparently we had a problem with a budget emergency  proclaimed to panic status by the Abbott opposition.

In this case it was so bad that after taking office the Liberals done absolutely nothing about it, they even rejected the option to start Budget repair in a mini budget, instead of taking action in February to start collecting the income to pay for their outrageous unfunded spending they chose to allow the economy continue with Labors settings for an additional 10 months. They followed for the rest of the term by making the budget deficit worse.

Now you see back in 1975 the issue at hand was that the Whitlam governments budget was so bad that it had to be blocked for the dire fear it would send Australia broke.

The fact is that the first action of the hypercritical Incoming coalition government in 1975 (Fraser) was to pass the Labor budget in full.


Well may you parrot Liberal garbage and lies as that is clearly what you have done here.

I have to ask is consistency a good thing when it is consistent dishonesty ?
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Reply #29 - Jun 26th, 2020 at 9:35pm
 
juliar wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 4:22pm:
The fact is the FABIAN Socialist Whitlam was the worst "PM" ever seen in Australia until Juliar Gillard flopped onto the scene.

That's why Sir John had to boot him out before he totally stuffed up Australia.

Where do the Unions find these nauseating creatures ?


Whitlam achieved more in 3 years than Howard did in his life.
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:04pm:
Ppl like juliar didnt like gough because he started the single mothers pension. thats why all the extreme righties think he was going to "bankrupt" australia.

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Abbott promised Single Mothers 100 times more than anyone, While he delivered zero some say that it is the thought that counts. Abbott is on record as having by far the most generous single mother election promise ever.

Sad thing is that some of them believed him.
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Fuzzball wrote on Jun 25th, 2020 at 9:07am:
UK had no 'role' in Whitlam's sacking, Australia on the other hand requested it before he bankrupted the country.


Apparently there is a fair bit of documentation saying different ?

What are you going to believe ?

Your own lying eyes ??

OR

Your typical dogma driven fantasies ?
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:04pm:
Ppl like juliar didnt like gough because he started the single mothers pension. thats why all the extreme righties think he was going to "bankrupt" australia.

Spot

The Whitlam government produced Budget surpluses in every year in office, was the last federal government that left office with more cash than debt and had a lower tax to GDP ratio than the Howard government.

So much for rightists' lies.
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Reply #33 - Jun 27th, 2020 at 1:51pm
 
Bam wrote on Jun 27th, 2020 at 1:45pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 26th, 2020 at 1:04pm:
Ppl like juliar didnt like gough because he started the single mothers pension. thats why all the extreme righties think he was going to "bankrupt" australia.

Spot

The Whitlam government produced Budget surpluses in every year in office, was the last federal government that left office with more cash than debt and had a lower tax to GDP ratio than the Howard government.

So much for rightists' lies.


With all due respect knowing Gough that was more from good luck than good management!

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Reply #34 - Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:46pm
 
Cough Whitless certainly achieved lots in his disgraceful 3 years - he nearly bankrupted Australia - that's why the GG had to boot him out.

The Khemali affair ?
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juliar wrote on Jun 28th, 2020 at 6:46pm:
Cough Whitless certainly achieved lots in his disgraceful 3 years - he nearly bankrupted Australia - that's why the GG had to boot him out.

The Khemali affair ?


You clearly don't even know enough to know how wrong you are.
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