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Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am
 
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 

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It's their "Yoga C940" that comes all sorts of point pricing crap like Dolby Vision, 4K, some "bitch ass" graphics card, 16G of memory, 2TB SSD and a outdated i7 processor.

Reviews look okay and for the money can't find anything better. But I'm guessing it will fall apart by this time next year if COVID doesn't kill me first.
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Reply #1 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:28am
 
Every one comes with a little bit of Chinese government spyware. Go with any other brand.
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Reply #2 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:48am
 
I think this model is made in North Carolina.
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Reply #3 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:59am
 
Don't buy it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

Lenovo Group Limited, often shortened to Lenovo (/lɛˈnoʊvoʊ/ leh-NOH-voh), is a Chinese multinational technology company that is headquartered in Beijing.[4] The company designs, develops, manufactures, and sells personal computers, tablet computers, smartphones, workstations, servers, electronic storage devices, IT management software, and smart televisions. Lenovo is the world's largest personal computer vendor by unit sales, as of March 2019.
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Reply #4 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:59am
 

I have a Lenovo Chromebook.

Great little laptop.

It's when you put Windows in them that they become crap.

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freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:59am:
Lenovo Group Limited, often shortened to Lenovo (/lɛˈnoʊvoʊ/ leh-NOH-voh), is a Chinese multinational technology company that is headquartered in Beijing.[4] The company designs, develops, manufactures, and sells personal computers, tablet computers, smartphones, workstations, servers, electronic storage devices, IT management software, and smart televisions. Lenovo is the world's largest personal computer vendor by unit sales, as of March 2019.



Work is actually paying for it. They want something they can resell at the end of the year and they are really frowning on HP and Apple products. I myself will never buy another Apple product ever. As far as spyware in the BIOS every manufacturer has that. I've worked with Lenovo's before and found them to be more reliable than any Apple crap I've ever owned. I have not used my iMac Pro in months because its such overpriced garbage.
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Reply #6 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:32am
 
But this one is Chinese. That's the issue. We should be boycotting all Chinese products, to send a message to the government over their handling of the coronavirus outbreak and their attempts to use trade sanctions to prevent a proper enquiry.

There are lots of different brands.

If it's for work, why can't you just ask the IT people for advice?
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Lenovo assembles ThinkPad and ThinkCentre computers at a Whitsett, North Carolina manufacturing plant. The Chinese company opened this facility in 2012 for faster shipping to its US consumer base.
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What's your point Greg?
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Reply #9 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:44am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:32am:
If it's for work, why can't you just ask the IT people for advice?



You assume my workplace has IT support? More like "here's a budget of $1,300 buy something we can resell at the end of the year."
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Reply #10 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:46am
 
Doesn't sound very sensible. Secondhand laptops are worthless.
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Reply #11 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:48am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:40am:
What's your point Greg?



Every manufacture has spyware. Every manufacture has proprietary contacts with Chinese factories who produce Chinese parts for every computer out there.


Even the crap Apples assembles in Texuuss is originally produced in China.
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Reply #12 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:49am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:46am:
Doesn't sound very sensible. Secondhand laptops are worthless.


Apparently not to them.
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Reply #13 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:12am
 
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:48am:
freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:40am:
What's your point Greg?



Every manufacture has spyware. Every manufacture has proprietary contacts with Chinese factories who produce Chinese parts for every computer out there.


Even the crap Apples assembles in Texuuss is originally produced in China.


Lenovo is Chinese owned.
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Reply #14 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:21am
 
Get one of these

https://www.metabox.com.au/

Every now and then they have super sales that make them really cheap

Also aussie assembled

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Reply #15 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:23am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:59am:
It's when you put Windows in them that they become crap.



True story

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freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:12am:
Lenovo is Chinese owned.



Chinese owned or Chinese made it's basically the same thing.
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Reply #17 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 11:09am
 
Lenovo started by buying the IBM Thinkpad when it was by far the most robust laptop on the market.

They were always butt ugly and tended to be slow-ish but unbreakable. (or close to it).

The chineese ones are not in the same class but likely as good as HP.

Been using HP's the last decade and they are getting more and more disappointing, I suspect still in front of Dell and the cheepies.

Like most things you can get a lot better but it won't be cheap.

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Reply #18 - Jun 20th, 2020 at 11:16am
 
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:37am:
freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:12am:
Lenovo is Chinese owned.



Chinese owned or Chinese made it's basically the same thing.


No it isn't. It affects where the profits go.
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freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 11:16am:
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:37am:
freediver wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:12am:
Lenovo is Chinese owned.



Chinese owned or Chinese made it's basically the same thing.


No it isn't. It affects where the profits go.


Foreign companies and workers paying taxes off-shore has it's value. Let's not forget the exploitation that it causes.
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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:59am:
I have a Lenovo Chromebook.

Great little laptop.

It's when you put Windows in them that they become crap.



I have owned multiple Chromebooks made by various manufacturers and they all had one thing in common: everyone of them ended up in the rubbish bin. When the last one started to die I bought a MacBook Air and haven't looked back. No more disposable devices for me.
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AiA wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 10:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:59am:
I have a Lenovo Chromebook.

Great little laptop.

It's when you put Windows in them that they become crap.



I have owned multiple Chromebooks made by various manufacturers and they all had one thing in common: everyone of them ended up in the rubbish bin. When the last one started to die I bought a MacBook Air and haven't looked back. No more disposable devices for me.


I have had a macbook air for 10 years. still runs. Crashes a lot (since the beginning) but its basically useless. Thats why its lasted so long.

the metabox is great though.

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Reply #22 - Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:43am
 
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 


I got one years ago for $500 from some computer dealer that I would not purchase from again. So far, the computer laptop has been good for watching international regional versions of dvds. Otherwise, I wish I had not bought a laptop in the first place.

However, Lenovo is part of the brands that originate from China. Perhaps try to boycott that product, for now.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:43am:
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 


I got one years ago for $500 from some computer dealer that I would not purchase from again. So far, the computer laptop has been good for watching international regional versions of dvds. Otherwise, I wish I had not bought a laptop in the first place.

However, Lenovo is part of the brands that originate from China. Perhaps try to boycott that product, for now.


And you're okay with China boycotting Australian products?

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:43am:
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 


I got one years ago for $500 from some computer dealer that I would not purchase from again. So far, the computer laptop has been good for watching international regional versions of dvds. Otherwise, I wish I had not bought a laptop in the first place.

However, Lenovo is part of the brands that originate from China. Perhaps try to boycott that product, for now.


And you're okay with China boycotting Australian products?



That's probably one of the reasons he is doing it Greg. Do try to keep up.
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freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 9:22am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:43am:
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 


I got one years ago for $500 from some computer dealer that I would not purchase from again. So far, the computer laptop has been good for watching international regional versions of dvds. Otherwise, I wish I had not bought a laptop in the first place.

However, Lenovo is part of the brands that originate from China. Perhaps try to boycott that product, for now.


And you're okay with China boycotting Australian products?



That's probably one of the reasons he is doing it Greg. Do try to keep up.


He hasn't answered yet.

Let's see what he has to say.
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Reply #26 - Jun 21st, 2020 at 10:21am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:37am:
Lenovo assembles ThinkPad and ThinkCentre computers at a Whitsett, North Carolina manufacturing plant. The Chinese company opened this facility in 2012 for faster shipping to its US consumer base.


What's your point Greg?

Are you going to let Marla speak for you?
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freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 10:21am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:37am:
Lenovo assembles ThinkPad and ThinkCentre computers at a Whitsett, North Carolina manufacturing plant. The Chinese company opened this facility in 2012 for faster shipping to its US consumer base.


What's your point Greg?



Lenovo assembles ThinkPad and ThinkCentre computers at a Whitsett, North Carolina manufacturing plant. The Chinese company opened this facility in 2012 for faster shipping to its US consumer base.
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Reply #28 - Jun 21st, 2020 at 11:28am
 
Lenovo is Chinese. Used to be IBM branded.

I like Asus myself.

I reckon HP are crap.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 11:02am:
freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 10:21am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 9:37am:
Lenovo assembles ThinkPad and ThinkCentre computers at a Whitsett, North Carolina manufacturing plant. The Chinese company opened this facility in 2012 for faster shipping to its US consumer base.


What's your point Greg?



Lenovo assembles ThinkPad and ThinkCentre computers at a Whitsett, North Carolina manufacturing plant. The Chinese company opened this facility in 2012 for faster shipping to its US consumer base.


I generally assume your posts are pointless. Just thought I'd give you the opportunity to say something.
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Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 

https://morningtick.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Lenovo-Yoga-C940-laptop-launc...

It's their "Yoga C940" that comes all sorts of point pricing crap like Dolby Vision, 4K, some "bitch ass" graphics card, 16G of memory, 2TB SSD and a outdated i7 processor.

Reviews look okay and for the money can't find anything better. But I'm guessing it will fall apart by this time next year if COVID doesn't kill me first.


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Reply #31 - Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:17pm
 
Laptops....how quaint.

Tablet for on the go and a nice powerful tower for home.

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Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:17pm:
Laptops....how quaint.

Tablet for on the go and a nice powerful tower for home.



Tower      Grin   Lol

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:17pm:
Laptops....how quaint.

Tablet for on the go and a nice powerful tower for home.



Tower      Grin   Lol

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nah .. i use a tower at home. Just had a new one built for me. Far more reliable than any laptop. My old tower was 12 years old before it died.

My laptop is a 2 years old ACER and I'm ready to throw it away. Useless.
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John Smith wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:17pm:
Laptops....how quaint.

Tablet for on the go and a nice powerful tower for home.



Tower      Grin   Lol

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nah .. i use a tower at home. Just had a new one built for me. Far more reliable than any laptop. My old tower was 12 years old before it died.

My laptop is a 2 years old ACER and I'm ready to throw it away. Useless.


Yeah i built my tower for 900 bucks about 4 years ago. Still going strong.

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John Smith wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:31pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:18pm:
Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 12:17pm:
Laptops....how quaint.

Tablet for on the go and a nice powerful tower for home.



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nah .. i use a tower at home. Just had a new one built for me. Far more reliable than any laptop. My old tower was 12 years old before it died.

My laptop is a 2 years old ACER and I'm ready to throw it away. Useless.


For home office use, nothing beats a good old tower. Fast, reliable, up-gradable and cheaply repairable = less e-waste.

I have two towers in my home office.

I used to do a lot of design and video editing (and still do some) so a desktop is unbeatable. It never goes online so it's still as clean and fast as the day it was built. When I upgrade the editing PC it gets demoted to general use

Also, I've used the same guy to build my computers for about 15 years and last time one had a fault, a blown power supply, he didn't even charge labour, just swapped it out and it cost less than $100 bucks and ready in an hour.

Everything I do with my tablet hits the cloud as soon as I get home and is there waiting for my on my PC.
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Lol, luddites.

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I do most of my music listening thru the PC with a high end sound card.

Good luck doing that on a notebook.
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I'm shutting down a lot of my online activity and connects.
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Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 5:07pm:
I do most of my music listening thru the PC with a high end sound card.

Good luck doing that on a notebook.


Lol  Grin

You really have no idea.

The sound on my Chromebook leaves you for dead.



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In your dreams.

https://www.techspot.com/products/sound-cards/asus-xonar-essence-stx-2-71-pcie.1...

Connected to a Musicalfidelity amp and a pair of Thiel 1.7s

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In addition to my MacBook, I own two Mac Minis and have never been disappointed. I don't have an iPhone however - they just aren't worth the money to me.
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Reply #43 - Jun 21st, 2020 at 9:12pm
 
AiA wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 9:08pm:
In addition to my MacBook, I own two Mac Minis and have never been disappointed. I don't have an iPhone however - they just aren't worth the money to me.


They make a nice music server.
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Reply #44 - Jun 22nd, 2020 at 6:22am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:43am:
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 


I got one years ago for $500 from some computer dealer that I would not purchase from again. So far, the computer laptop has been good for watching international regional versions of dvds. Otherwise, I wish I had not bought a laptop in the first place.

However, Lenovo is part of the brands that originate from China. Perhaps try to boycott that product, for now.


And you're okay with China boycotting Australian products?


My boycott is motivated by the Chinese boycott of Australian products.
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Reply #45 - Jun 22nd, 2020 at 6:25am
 
freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 9:22am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:43am:
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 


I got one years ago for $500 from some computer dealer that I would not purchase from again. So far, the computer laptop has been good for watching international regional versions of dvds. Otherwise, I wish I had not bought a laptop in the first place.

However, Lenovo is part of the brands that originate from China. Perhaps try to boycott that product, for now.


And you're okay with China boycotting Australian products?


That's probably one of the reasons he is doing it Greg. Do try to keep up.


I need to read further on these forums before I respond. But, yes, the boycott of Australian products by the Chinese is the ONLY reason I will boycott Chinese products.
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Reply #46 - Jun 22nd, 2020 at 6:30am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 10:11am:
freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 9:22am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:43am:
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 


I got one years ago for $500 from some computer dealer that I would not purchase from again. So far, the computer laptop has been good for watching international regional versions of dvds. Otherwise, I wish I had not bought a laptop in the first place.

However, Lenovo is part of the brands that originate from China. Perhaps try to boycott that product, for now.


And you're okay with China boycotting Australian products?



That's probably one of the reasons he is doing it Greg. Do try to keep up.


He hasn't answered yet.

Let's see what he has to say.


I make the same mistake twice. Maybe there will be a third.

But, surely, you would draw your own conclusions that I would counter boycott something simply because of the unfair boycott my countrymen receive. I did not purchase a Lenovo laptop simply without being satisfied reviewing the product in store before purchase. Had this pandemic hysteria happened threeeee years earlier, followed by the Chinese ultranationalism and racism against Australia(ns), I would probably not have purchased the Lenovo.
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Re: Lenovo Craptops
Reply #47 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 7:47am
 
Made up my mind and decided to go with this:

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Yep, a Micro$oft Surface Pro-7 capitalist piece of crap.


Reviews and specs looks good and I have the option of buying it back at the end of the year at a fraction of the price.


Glad that crisis is over with.
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Reply #48 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:10am
 
They're the fan favourite in socialist Cuba.
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Reply #49 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 22nd, 2020 at 6:25am:
freediver wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 9:22am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 21st, 2020 at 8:43am:
Marla wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 4:05am:
They any friggin' good? Thinking about getting this one. I'm done with Apple, Dell and HP horsepucky devices. 


I got one years ago for $500 from some computer dealer that I would not purchase from again. So far, the computer laptop has been good for watching international regional versions of dvds. Otherwise, I wish I had not bought a laptop in the first place.

However, Lenovo is part of the brands that originate from China. Perhaps try to boycott that product, for now.


And you're okay with China boycotting Australian products?


That's probably one of the reasons he is doing it Greg. Do try to keep up.


I need to read further on these forums before I respond. But, yes, the boycott of Australian products by the Chinese is the ONLY reason I will boycott Chinese products.


I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.

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Re: Lenovo Craptops
Reply #50 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:44am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am:
I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.


Yeah, me and every other person aware of what China is doing. Boycotting Chinese products for one reason or the other. The Chinese might act like vampires. But their lack of exports will hurt them.
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Re: Lenovo Craptops
Reply #51 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:45am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am:
I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.


Yeah, me and every other person aware of what China is doing. Boycotting Chinese products for one reason or the other. The Chinese might act like vampires. But their lack of exports will hurt them.


They don't appear to be suffering too much.

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Re: Lenovo Craptops
Reply #52 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 11:02am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am:
I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.


Yeah, me and every other person aware of what China is doing.



You're doing the same thing they're doing though.

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Reply #53 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 1:35pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:45am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am:
I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.


Yeah, me and every other person aware of what China is doing. Boycotting Chinese products for one reason or the other. The Chinese might act like vampires. But their lack of exports will hurt them.


They don't appear to be suffering too much.


Probably because they can still make a lot of money off of slave labour and poor working conditions that the low-wage Chinese are forced to endure.
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Reply #54 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 1:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 11:02am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am:
I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.


Yeah, me and every other person aware of what China is doing.



You're doing the same thing they're doing though.


If it was not for the fact that the Chinese banned meat imports from Australian meat holdings that had mislabeled the beef exports, my town would be doing it tough. The fact is, the Chinese unleashed a virus on the world without clamping down on those who were suffering the virus in China. We could have avoided the lockdown if the Chinese acted responsibly. And we would not be suffering a downturn of Chinese imports from Australia if the Chinese authorities did not act like spoiled brats who can't take criticism.

The fact that I don't personally suffer from the Chinese boycott, it does not mean that I cannot act with altruism supporting those that have suffered. I can rethink my purchases a bit more in future about where the product has come from.
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Re: Lenovo Craptops
Reply #55 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 1:46pm
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 1:40pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 11:02am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am:
I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.


Yeah, me and every other person aware of what China is doing.



You're doing the same thing they're doing though.


If it was not for the fact that the Chinese banned meat imports from Australian meat holdings that had mislabeled the beef exports, my town would be doing it tough. The fact is, the Chinese unleashed a virus on the world without clamping down on those who were suffering the virus in China. We could have avoided the lockdown if the Chinese acted responsibly. And we would not be suffering a downturn of Chinese imports from Australia if the Chinese authorities did not act like spoiled brats who can't take criticism.

The fact that I don't personally suffer from the Chinese boycott, it does not mean that I cannot act with altruism supporting those that have suffered. I can rethink my purchases a bit more in future about where the product has come from.


As long as they're not Chinese, you mean?

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Reply #56 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 5:54pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 11:02am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am:
I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.


Yeah, me and every other person aware of what China is doing.



You're doing the same thing they're doing though.



How is it the same?
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Reply #57 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 6:59pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 5:54pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 11:02am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 10:44am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:27am:
I'm sure China is suffering badly as a result of your heroic (in)action.


Yeah, me and every other person aware of what China is doing.



You're doing the same thing they're doing though.



How is it the same?


He's boycotting products from a particular country.

Thus, it's exactly the same.
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Reply #58 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 7:20pm
 
The same as what Greg? There must be two things for them to be the same.
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Reply #59 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 7:22pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 7:20pm:
The same as what Greg? There must be two things for them to be the same.


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Reply #60 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 7:24pm
 
I think you are wrong. I think you know you are wrong. I think that is what you are avoiding saying what you think is the same. You cannot identify what it is you think is the same because the act of describing it alone will highlight how it is different.
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Reply #61 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:22pm
 
Lets see if I have this right.

Some Australians are boycotting Chinese products because they're a despotic totalitarian regime who are currently holding 1.5 million Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities in concentration camps, killing Falun Gong and selling their organs, started a pandemic then manipulated the WHO and lied about it allowing the entire world to become infected, and China is boycotting Australian products because we simply asked for an investigation into the source of the pandemic.

These to things are the same? OhhhKey....
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Re: Lenovo Craptops
Reply #62 - Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:29pm
 
Gordon wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:22pm:
because they're a despotic totalitarian regime who are currently holding 1.5 million Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities in concentration camps, killing Falun Gong and selling their organs, started a pandemic then manipulated the WHO and lied about it allowing the entire world to become infected,



i don't think any of that entered FD's mind when he suggested boycotting chinese products Cheesy Cheesy

it was tit for tat ... but good of you to pretend otherwise
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Reply #63 - Jun 24th, 2020 at 6:50am
 
Gordon wrote on Jun 23rd, 2020 at 8:22pm:
Lets see if I have this right.

Some Australians are boycotting Chinese products because they're a despotic totalitarian regime who are currently holding 1.5 million Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities in concentration camps, killing Falun Gong and selling their organs, started a pandemic then manipulated the WHO and lied about it allowing the entire world to become infected, and China is boycotting Australian products because we simply asked for an investigation into the source of the pandemic.

These to things are the same? OhhhKey....


You said it more than I could. I was just making a point about not liking China's boycott and defamation of Australia.
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Reply #64 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 6:02pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 20th, 2020 at 8:59am:
I have a Lenovo Chromebook.

Great little laptop.

It's when you put Windows in them that they become crap.



Are Chromebooks the notebook of choice for people who have an obsession with child rape?
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Reply #65 - Jul 14th, 2020 at 10:39pm
 
if you are lucky enough to use a high power big memory Windows 10 or Ubuntu LINUX PC with multiple disks with a screen two A4 pages wide you would not ever want to bother with a laptop or Iphone.
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