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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18853 Gender:	Re: Trump's Corona Rally: Don't Sue Me! Reply #30 - Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:53pm cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:13pm: so this isnt referring to any danger.. lee wrote Today at 1:09pm: the use of pepper balls to get the rioters to cry and snot Did it create danger? It would seem not as there has been no spike in COVID 19.
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Reply #31 - Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:58pm

lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:53pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:13pm:

so this isnt referring to any danger..

lee wrote Today at 1:09pm:
the use of pepper balls to get the rioters to cry and snot

Did it create danger? It would seem not as there has been no spike in COVID 19.

thats not what I was replying too and well you know..

do you think covids have been shelved a little since the death of George????????...... Roll Eyes

it happens something more sinister comes along and before you know it last weeks angst is forgotten.

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18853 Gender:	Re: Trump's Corona Rally: Don't Sue Me! Reply #32 - Jun 13^th, 2020 at 6:35pm cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:58pm: thats not what I was replying too and well you know. No: I don't. You responded to my post. perhaps you should explain your remarks clearer.
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Reply #33 - Jun 13^th, 2020 at 6:35pm

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 10:32am:

ProudKangaroo wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 9:34am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 2:41am:

AiA wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 2:33am:

What could he be worried about?

Trump rally attendees must agree not to sue campaign over potential coronavirus exposure

A disclaimer for the June 19 event makes no mention of required social distancing or safety precautions, such as face coverings.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/11/trump-rally-sue-campaign-coronavirus-ex...

Herd immunity is developing - the numbers of new cases are falling as well as the lethality.

Herd immunity requires 90-90% of the population to be immune right?

With the current death rate of known infections vs deaths, if 95% of the US has herd immunity from spreading the virus alone (not a future vaccine), that's 17 million people dead. 17 million people dead because of Trump if you're linking his rallies to herd immunity.

Anything less will not achieve herd immunity and the deaths that accompany the infections will be for nothing and besides, the entire point of herd immunity is to avoid infections by using vaccinations to make the population immune.

Infecting the population to reach a point of immunity... It's a serious "wtf are you talking about" moment.

But alas, it's just a basic tard's Trump defense...

Now I'll admit that's on the high end of estimations because that is assuming the death rate is 5.5% calculated from known cases vs deaths but given the issues with testing (thanks to Trump) and the asymptomatic nature of the virus the actual number of cases would be much higher which would in turn lower the death rate, but you're still looking at millions dead in the version where Trump is deliberately infecting people at his rallies to achieve herd immunity which is what you're saying to justify his selfish actions.

In your world, a vote for Trump is a vote for millions of dead Americans.

4 Americans died in the Benghazi attack that you still to this day want to see Hillary in Gitmo for. But you're ok with Trump's death count being millions?

ooof...

Many people on here doubt the number of Jews that died in the Holocaust but if you ignore those bigots and take the accepted value, around 6 million, Trump's death count would be 2-3 times higher than that, if your defense of him Rich is reality, more if you take the bigots version of the Holocaust into account.

That's a really great defense, you've really topped yourself with this one. Bravo.

I will admit to not being impressed with Trump over his covid response but this is a bit of a stretch spot....

he is mostly up against State Governors who do not wish to co operate with him anyway......and as we saw the rioters dont give a stuff about covids.....be realistic for once.......New york is still the worst affected State. but the deaths are dropping..so thats a good thing...

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Reply #34 - Jun 13^th, 2020 at 10:04pm

lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:53pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:13pm:

so this isnt referring to any danger..

lee wrote Today at 1:09pm:
the use of pepper balls to get the rioters to cry and snot

Did it create danger? It would seem not as there has been no spike in COVID 19.

Increasing numbers in 19 states ?

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Reply #35 - Jun 13^th, 2020 at 10:45pm

lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 3:00pm:

Marla wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:00am:

COVID-19 will be nothing in terms of human suffering and death when climate change really kicks in.

The curious thing is - with these BLM riots COVID 19 cases haven't spiked. Wink

It must be so disheartening when all you have to do is wait for climate change to really kick in. Grin

The media gave rioters a pass for not distancing and wearing masks. Cause expressing your constitutional rights by burning and looting was more important than say going to church which are still in lockdown.

"Enemy of the people" - quote Donald Trump. How true!

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lee Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 18853 Gender:	Re: Trump's Corona Rally: Don't Sue Me! Reply #36 - Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:27pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 10:04pm: Increasing numbers in 19 states ? Is that where the riots were? Or is it the second wave?
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Reply #37 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:26am

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

Covid -19 numbers are up because testing has increased.

So?

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

If you test twice as many drivers you get twice as many drunk drivers.

Strawman argument. If you test as many stupid right wing for their collective I.Q.'s you get ten million times retarded Trump supporters.

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

You really are are a cheery little troll! Fear mongering - again. Viruses die in warmer climes - your Armageddon prophesy indicates your lack of basic science.

Wrong again you walking wet fart. Viruses, like you, are parasites that can survive in warmer climates. Even in the apex of summer COVID has shown no signs of decreasing.

Between June 6 and 9, there was a 36 percent increase in the average number of new cases in the US, according to a leaked report by the Centers for Disease Control. At 27,221, yesterday saw the highest number of new cases since May 21. Globally, new cases surged to a new record, at more than 140,000. Arizona’s state health director, Dr. Cara Christ, sent an urgent letter to Arizona hospitals, asking them to activate their COVID-19 emergency plans. Yeah, virus do "die off" in the summer, don't they? And we all know Arizona is a cold climate in the dead of summer. Shitbird.

Besides, shitbird, I'm talking climate here, not viruses. Floods, droughts, to changes in humidity can bring diseases to climates that never experienced them before. Climate change has and will continue to bring about human and animal displacement and hunger. The United Nation’s World Food Program has made their report for 2020 warning that 73 million people in Africa, beset not only with poverty, but also with conflicts and the impact of natural disasters, economic crises and climate change, are at risk of a food crisis or worse by the end of the year. Don't think that can happen in ol' F A T T Y's America? Think again. As for a virus and the strong possibility of more lethal virus coming in ol F A T T Y's America alone widespread poverty and ramshackle public health systems, makes America especially vulnerable to worse pandemics. Without urgent action and funding, tens of millions of Americans face starvation and millions could die due to another pandemic.

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

And yes herd immunity is having an effect and what usually happens during a pandemic the virus lethality decreases because the virus kills to many of its hosts - its survival is at stake.

Where is your data to support your stupid claim? Where is it? Hiding in Alex Jone$ F A T asshole? You have no idea what in the f - k you spew on about. Herd immunity is a pseudo-science being pushed by the most reactionary voices within the financial oligarchy who use the media to provide social or scientific credibility for their deadly agenda and yet you bitch about Bill Gates while blowing Alex Jone$ for your "information."

Again, for your insane herd immunity to work, implications for the US are that 1.4 million more people will have to die, 3 million to 5 million more people will be hospitalized, with many more convalescing at home and needing care from their family, before the population as a whole could expect the virus’s growth to become naturally subdued. That is a fact, you walking wet fart of an idiot. The doctrine of herd immunity is an explicit policy for a socioeconomic pogrom not public safety.

Stay stupid, you incel troll.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98425	Re: Trump's Corona Rally: Don't Sue Me! Reply #38 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:48am lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 6:35pm: cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 5:58pm: thats not what I was replying too and well you know. No: I don't. You responded to my post. perhaps you should explain your remarks clearer.
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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98425	Re: Trump's Corona Rally: Don't Sue Me! Reply #39 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:49am lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:27pm: Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 10:04pm: Increasing numbers in 19 states ? Is that where the riots were? Or is it the second wave? Oh... Never mind.
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Reply #40 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 1:22am

Marla wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:26am:

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

Covid -19 numbers are up because testing has increased.

So?

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

If you test twice as many drivers you get twice as many drunk drivers.

Strawman argument. If you test as many stupid right wing for their collective I.Q.'s you get ten million times retarded Trump supporters.

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

You really are are a cheery little troll! Fear mongering - again. Viruses die in warmer climes - your Armageddon prophesy indicates your lack of basic science.

Wrong again you walking wet fart. Viruses, like you, are parasites that can survive in warmer climates. Even in the apex of summer COVID has shown no signs of decreasing.

Between June 6 and 9, there was a 36 percent increase in the average number of new cases in the US, according to a leaked report by the Centers for Disease Control. At 27,221, yesterday saw the highest number of new cases since May 21. Globally, new cases surged to a new record, at more than 140,000. Arizona’s state health director, Dr. Cara Christ, sent an urgent letter to Arizona hospitals, asking them to activate their COVID-19 emergency plans. Yeah, virus do "die off" in the summer, don't they? And we all know Arizona is a cold climate in the dead of summer. Shitbird.

Besides, shitbird, I'm talking climate here, not viruses. Floods, droughts, to changes in humidity can bring diseases to climates that never experienced them before. Climate change has and will continue to bring about human and animal displacement and hunger. The United Nation’s World Food Program has made their report for 2020 warning that 73 million people in Africa, beset not only with poverty, but also with conflicts and the impact of natural disasters, economic crises and climate change, are at risk of a food crisis or worse by the end of the year. Don't think that can happen in ol' F A T T Y's America? Think again. As for a virus and the strong possibility of more lethal virus coming in ol F A T T Y's America alone widespread poverty and ramshackle public health systems, makes America especially vulnerable to worse pandemics. Without urgent action and funding, tens of millions of Americans face starvation and millions could die due to another pandemic.

Richdude wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm:

And yes herd immunity is having an effect and what usually happens during a pandemic the virus lethality decreases because the virus kills to many of its hosts - its survival is at stake.

Where is your data to support your stupid claim? Where is it? Hiding in Alex Jone$ F A T asshole? You have no idea what in the f - k you spew on about. Herd immunity is a pseudo-science being pushed by the most reactionary voices within the financial oligarchy who use the media to provide social or scientific credibility for their deadly agenda and yet you bitch about Bill Gates while blowing Alex Jone$ for your "information."

Again, for your insane herd immunity to work, implications for the US are that 1.4 million more people will have to die, 3 million to 5 million more people will be hospitalized, with many more convalescing at home and needing care from their family, before the population as a whole could expect the virus’s growth to become naturally subdued. That is a fact, you walking wet fart of an idiot. The doctrine of herd immunity is an explicit policy for a socioeconomic pogrom not public safety.

Stay stupid, you incel troll.

2 days ago Dead End said "the Seattle protesters really don't demand that the police be defunded"!

Defunding really doesn't mean defunding it means something else!

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Reply #41 - Jun 14^th, 2020 at 2:11am

Richdude wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 1:22am:

2 days ago Dead End said "the Seattle protesters really don't demand that the police be defunded"!

Defunding really doesn't mean defunding it means something else!

Oh look, Bitchy Rude can't argue his lame-ass point so he changes the subject and goes to OAN which is propaganda for the god damn dumbest of the god damn dumbest of MAGA tards.

Stay stupid, incel troll.

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Reply #42 - Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:29pm

Karnal wrote on Jun 14^th, 2020 at 12:49am:

lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

Increasing numbers in 19 states ?

Is that where the riots were? Or is it the second wave?

Oh...

Never mind.

So were these new cases in the cities with the riots or were they rioting statewide in the 19 states?

You do understand the difference between states and Ccities; I presume.

"Covid-19 Cases Were Already Rising Before the George Floyd Protests"

https://www.wired.com/story/covid-19-cases-were-already-rising-before-the-george...

Never mind petal. Wink

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 59987 Here Gender:	Re: Trump's Corona Rally: Don't Sue Me! Reply #43 - Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:41pm lee wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 11:27pm: Dnarever wrote on Jun 13^th, 2020 at 10:04pm: Increasing numbers in 19 states ? Is that where the riots were? Or is it the second wave? its mostly where states opened early and quickly despite not really flattening the curve first.
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 21133 Gordon Gender:	Re: Trump's Corona Rally: Don't Sue Me! Reply #44 - Jun 15^th, 2020 at 9:49pm Is this ok?
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