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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8658 armidale Gender:	Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament Reply #15 - May 31^st, 2020 at 2:16pm Ministers for Pork should be judged by a jury of 12 before the funds are given. Guilty suspects lose super and pension by fixed percentage, rising with repeat offending. They sit in parliament sin-bin next to Pauline.
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Valkie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16097 Central Coast Gender:	Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament Reply #16 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 5:31am Jasin wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 2:07pm: Send the Ice Junkies to Antarctica. Valkie's a cracker. I can see it now. All the ice addicts running around trying to snort the snow. Could be a hoot to watch.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8658 armidale Gender:	Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament Reply #17 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 9:34am They still get tins of baked beans, padded clothing, rolls of insulation. Cruise ships from China...
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament Reply #18 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:17pm freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:49pm: Do you choose these things randomly Auggie? When you go fishing, do you catch random fish or do you know what fish you want to catch first:
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Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament
Reply #19 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:22pm

Auggie wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:46pm:

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According to the UN Human Development Index (inequality-adjusted report), 9 countries rank higher than Australia.

1 Norway 0.889 0.954 6.8 Increase 0.010
2 Iceland 0.885 0.938 5.7 Increase 0.052
3 Japan 0.882 0.915 3.6 Increase 0.094[a]
4 Switzerland 0.881 0.946 6.8 Increase 0.015
5 Finland 0.876 0.925 5.3 Increase 0.040
6 Sweden 0.874 0.937 6.7 Increase 0.031
7 Denmark 0.873 0.930 6.1 Increase 0.021
8 Ireland 0.872 0.942 8.2 Increase 0.063
9 Netherlands 0.870 0.933 6.8 Increase 0.033
10 Australia 0.862 0.938 8.1 Increase 0.010

All of those countries have 4 year terms in their Parliaments, except for Ireland which has a 5 year term.

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I am not willing to support any Australian politician for any more than 3 years.

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Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament
Reply #20 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:24pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:46pm:

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According to the UN Human Development Index (inequality-adjusted report), 9 countries rank higher than Australia.

1 Norway 0.889 0.954 6.8 Increase 0.010
2 Iceland 0.885 0.938 5.7 Increase 0.052
3 Japan 0.882 0.915 3.6 Increase 0.094[a]
4 Switzerland 0.881 0.946 6.8 Increase 0.015
5 Finland 0.876 0.925 5.3 Increase 0.040
6 Sweden 0.874 0.937 6.7 Increase 0.031
7 Denmark 0.873 0.930 6.1 Increase 0.021
8 Ireland 0.872 0.942 8.2 Increase 0.063
9 Netherlands 0.870 0.933 6.8 Increase 0.033
10 Australia 0.862 0.938 8.1 Increase 0.010

All of those countries have 4 year terms in their Parliaments, except for Ireland which has a 5 year term.

no 2 X

I am not willing to support any Australian politician for any more than 3 years.

So, why do voters in countries with a higher standard of living than Australia feel comfortable with 4 years (or 5 years in the case of Ireland) but you don't?

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Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament
Reply #21 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:25pm

Auggie wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:46pm:

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According to the UN Human Development Index (inequality-adjusted report), 9 countries rank higher than Australia.

1 Norway 0.889 0.954 6.8 Increase 0.010
2 Iceland 0.885 0.938 5.7 Increase 0.052
3 Japan 0.882 0.915 3.6 Increase 0.094[a]
4 Switzerland 0.881 0.946 6.8 Increase 0.015
5 Finland 0.876 0.925 5.3 Increase 0.040
6 Sweden 0.874 0.937 6.7 Increase 0.031
7 Denmark 0.873 0.930 6.1 Increase 0.021
8 Ireland 0.872 0.942 8.2 Increase 0.063
9 Netherlands 0.870 0.933 6.8 Increase 0.033
10 Australia 0.862 0.938 8.1 Increase 0.010

All of those countries have 4 year terms in their Parliaments, except for Ireland which has a 5 year term.

They also have colder climates than Australia you think that relates to the election terms as well ?

If the term in power impacts the development index why is Ireland not number 1 ?

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Dnarever Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 57172 Here Gender:	Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament Reply #22 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:29pm freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:49pm: Do you choose these things randomly Auggie? I thought they were all the same thing expressed differently, well there you go.
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Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament
Reply #23 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:38pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:46pm:

no

According to the UN Human Development Index (inequality-adjusted report), 9 countries rank higher than Australia.

1 Norway 0.889 0.954 6.8 Increase 0.010
2 Iceland 0.885 0.938 5.7 Increase 0.052
3 Japan 0.882 0.915 3.6 Increase 0.094[a]
4 Switzerland 0.881 0.946 6.8 Increase 0.015
5 Finland 0.876 0.925 5.3 Increase 0.040
6 Sweden 0.874 0.937 6.7 Increase 0.031
7 Denmark 0.873 0.930 6.1 Increase 0.021
8 Ireland 0.872 0.942 8.2 Increase 0.063
9 Netherlands 0.870 0.933 6.8 Increase 0.033
10 Australia 0.862 0.938 8.1 Increase 0.010

All of those countries have 4 year terms in their Parliaments, except for Ireland which has a 5 year term.

no 2 X

I am not willing to support any Australian politician for any more than 3 years.

So, why do voters in countries with a higher standard of living than Australia feel comfortable with 4 years (or 5 years in the case of Ireland) but you don't?

What data shows they like it or wanted it anywhere ?

I could be like Australia where the politicians vote them-self the additional time in office.

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Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament
Reply #24 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:38pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:46pm:

no

According to the UN Human Development Index (inequality-adjusted report), 9 countries rank higher than Australia.

1 Norway 0.889 0.954 6.8 Increase 0.010
2 Iceland 0.885 0.938 5.7 Increase 0.052
3 Japan 0.882 0.915 3.6 Increase 0.094[a]
4 Switzerland 0.881 0.946 6.8 Increase 0.015
5 Finland 0.876 0.925 5.3 Increase 0.040
6 Sweden 0.874 0.937 6.7 Increase 0.031
7 Denmark 0.873 0.930 6.1 Increase 0.021
8 Ireland 0.872 0.942 8.2 Increase 0.063
9 Netherlands 0.870 0.933 6.8 Increase 0.033
10 Australia 0.862 0.938 8.1 Increase 0.010

All of those countries have 4 year terms in their Parliaments, except for Ireland which has a 5 year term.

no 2 X

I am not willing to support any Australian politician for any more than 3 years.

So, why do voters in countries with a higher standard of living than Australia feel comfortable with 4 years (or 5 years in the case of Ireland) but you don't?

why do you assume they feel comfortable?

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Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament
Reply #25 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:14pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:46pm:

no

According to the UN Human Development Index (inequality-adjusted report), 9 countries rank higher than Australia.

1 Norway 0.889 0.954 6.8 Increase 0.010
2 Iceland 0.885 0.938 5.7 Increase 0.052
3 Japan 0.882 0.915 3.6 Increase 0.094[a]
4 Switzerland 0.881 0.946 6.8 Increase 0.015
5 Finland 0.876 0.925 5.3 Increase 0.040
6 Sweden 0.874 0.937 6.7 Increase 0.031
7 Denmark 0.873 0.930 6.1 Increase 0.021
8 Ireland 0.872 0.942 8.2 Increase 0.063
9 Netherlands 0.870 0.933 6.8 Increase 0.033
10 Australia 0.862 0.938 8.1 Increase 0.010

All of those countries have 4 year terms in their Parliaments, except for Ireland which has a 5 year term.

no 2 X

I am not willing to support any Australian politician for any more than 3 years.

So, why do voters in countries with a higher standard of living than Australia feel comfortable with 4 years (or 5 years in the case of Ireland) but you don't?

why do you assume they feel comfortable?

They are all cold places - Likely they are all uncomfortable all the time.

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Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament
Reply #26 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:31pm

Auggie wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:17pm:

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:49pm:

Do you choose these things randomly Auggie?

When you go fishing, do you catch random fish or do you know what fish you want to catch first:

I target certain species, but take whatever I can get.

Do you choose your reforms randomly? Do you see electoral reform as being in any way like fishing?

Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:29pm:

freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:49pm:

Do you choose these things randomly Auggie?

I thought they were all the same thing expressed differently, well there you go.

He rarely goes into enough detail. He could be copying and pasting random extracts from what is actually a coherent, well argumented case.

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Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament
Reply #27 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:39pm

Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:38pm:

Auggie wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:24pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:22pm:

Auggie wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:56pm:

John Smith wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 12:46pm:

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According to the UN Human Development Index (inequality-adjusted report), 9 countries rank higher than Australia.

1 Norway 0.889 0.954 6.8 Increase 0.010
2 Iceland 0.885 0.938 5.7 Increase 0.052
3 Japan 0.882 0.915 3.6 Increase 0.094[a]
4 Switzerland 0.881 0.946 6.8 Increase 0.015
5 Finland 0.876 0.925 5.3 Increase 0.040
6 Sweden 0.874 0.937 6.7 Increase 0.031
7 Denmark 0.873 0.930 6.1 Increase 0.021
8 Ireland 0.872 0.942 8.2 Increase 0.063
9 Netherlands 0.870 0.933 6.8 Increase 0.033
10 Australia 0.862 0.938 8.1 Increase 0.010

All of those countries have 4 year terms in their Parliaments, except for Ireland which has a 5 year term.

no 2 X

I am not willing to support any Australian politician for any more than 3 years.

So, why do voters in countries with a higher standard of living than Australia feel comfortable with 4 years (or 5 years in the case of Ireland) but you don't?

What data shows they like it or wanted it anywhere ?

I could be like Australia where the politicians vote them-self the additional time in office.

Let me put it another way.

Voters in Australia seem content on electing their state and territory governments every 4 years (QLD even voted for an increase from 3 years to 4 years a couple of years ago!); but they seem reluctant to give the same standard to Federal Parliament??

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament Reply #28 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:41pm freediver wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:31pm: He rarely goes into enough detail. The problem is that I go into too much detail, which is why people just dismiss it as a thought bubble or a brain fart. No one likes to admit they're stupid.
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: 4/6 model for Federal Parliament Reply #29 - Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:42pm Dnarever wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 6:29pm: freediver wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 1:49pm: Do you choose these things randomly Auggie? I thought they were all the same thing expressed differently, well there you go. The only rebuttal you've made against my proposal is based on an emotional impulse.
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