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May 29th, 2020 at 1:20pm
 
Belt and Road advisory board was stacked with people linked to CCP


The board of an Australian and Victorian government funded Belt and Road foundation was stacked with advisers with high-profile links to the Chinese Communist Party.

The list of advisers, which includes members of China's Treasury, spearheaded lobbying of the Victorian government before it became the only Australian state to sign up to the multinational infrastructure initiative.

Premier Daniel Andrews signed on to the package in 2018 and in May declared it "was more important than ever" to stimulate Victoria's post-coronavirus economy.

The move, which will allow for Chinese investment in Victoria and for Victorian companies to participate in Chinese government projects overseas, has angered federal cabinet ministers who hold national security concerns over the deal as China becomes increasingly assertive in its pandemic diplomacy.

Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton on Thursday accused Mr Andrews of a lack of transparency and of using his relationship with China to advance his own political agenda.

"I would have thought sunlight is a good thing here, but for whatever reason he decides to conduct all of this business in secret, and I just don't think it is in the national interest," he said.

The board members listed on a now-removed website include corporate governance expert Li Wei An, who receives a special government allowance from the Chinese State Council, Liu Jian Xing, a director at China's National Development and Reform Commission, and Shuaihua Wallace Cheng, an economist at the Shanghai Municipal Government Development Research Centre. It is common for academics and high-profile business people in China to be associated with the government.

The organisation received $36,850 to provide advice to the Victorian government in 2017-18 and 2019-20 and $20,000 from the federal government in 2016.

The 33-year-old founder of the Victorian-based Australia-China Belt and Road Initiative, Jean Dong, declined a request for an interview. Ms Dong and her fellow director Peter Collins, a genetic variation specialist and science film festival organiser, also recruited Australian corporate heavyweights including BHP Director Malcolm Broomhead, former trade minister Andrew Robb and Paul Cooper, the Chairman of Norman Disney and Young to the board.

Ms Dong, then aged in her 20s, said she played key roles in establishing relations between Tasmania and China and witnessed the signing of the China-Australia Free Trade Agreement after leaving her role as a state media news anchor in China.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/belt-and-road-advisory-board-was-stacked...
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who gives a poo if china pays for roads here, or our workers work on roads in china

its just another foreign investor and if it was anyone except china you numbnuts would be applauding it. China isn't even in the top 5 of our largest foreign investors here and yet I've never seen anyone cry over the USA or UK or any of the others investing here

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John, do you think a foreign investment by a CCP backed company should be viewed the same way as a similar investment from a country like NZ?
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Gordon wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
John, do you think a foreign investment by a CCP backed company should be viewed the same way as a similar investment from a country like NZ?


Who gives a fuq about the govt? It's not like they can repossess the road or bridge they pay for us to build.

Worst case scenario they one day declare war on us? Good, then we'll have nice new roads and bridges they paid for to get our weapons to where we need them  Cheesy Cheesy
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John Smith wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Gordon wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
John, do you think a foreign investment by a CCP backed company should be viewed the same way as a similar investment from a country like NZ?


Who gives a fuq about the govt? It's not like they can repossess the road or bridge they pay for us to build.

Worst case scenario they one day declare war on us? Good, then we'll have nice new roads and bridges they paid for to get our weapons to where we need them  Cheesy Cheesy



Australia is still capable of sending a gumboot!

If china becomes an enemy belligerent, we confiscate all their dough and assets, and vet their people living here....the good ones could become part of the new 'Go For Broke' regiment...
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Gordon wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
John, do you think a foreign investment by a CCP backed company should be viewed the same way as a similar investment from a country like NZ?


China are our biggest trading partner
Are you saying we should stop selling them our iron ore?
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The_Barnacle wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 5:19pm:
Gordon wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
John, do you think a foreign investment by a CCP backed company should be viewed the same way as a similar investment from a country like NZ?


China are our biggest trading partner
Are you saying we should stop selling them our iron ore?



they are great friends of the Labor Party.....at this point in time China is threatening us with huge Tariffs..and taking its business elsewhere .. for the simple reason Australia asked for an investigation into the pandemic which has affected the whole world....


imagine if we do something really violent to them.... Angry Angry Angry  this is what this country does....

what has he signed up for... $24billion.... Cheesy Cheesy

which I guess he will be paying back with aussie dollars..

taken from aussie taxpayers.....oh well... its all good I dont live in Victoria.
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The Chinese Government is great friends of EVERY party here, cods... get with it...
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The_Barnacle wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 5:19pm:
Gordon wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 4:39pm:
John, do you think a foreign investment by a CCP backed company should be viewed the same way as a similar investment from a country like NZ?


China are our biggest trading partner
Are you saying we should stop selling them our iron ore?



Embargoes tend to do that....

Pig Iron Scotty!!   Grin  Grin  Grin

How history runs in circles...
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John Smith wrote on May 29th, 2020 at 4:26pm:
who gives a poo if china pays for roads here, or our workers work on roads in china

its just another foreign investor and if it was anyone except china you numbnuts would be applauding it. China isn't even in the top 5 of our largest foreign investors here and yet I've never seen anyone cry over the USA or UK or any of the others investing here



So employment for non Australians in Australia comes first?

Andrews has Victoria in $70billion debt to the Chinese ....

do you understand debt trap?

It's like the MAFIA saying we'll give you all this cash/loan as long as we get all the road & infrastructure work for ever.

We have a tender process ...... that would go out the door as well .... as the Chinese companies would just be handed the project.

You should give a poo.
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Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
So employment for non Australians in Australia comes first?



what part of the deal was that exactly? or did you just make it up again?

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
Andrews has Victoria in $70billion debt to the Chinese ....


and? Who gives a crap where he borrows the money from. What are the chinese going to do? reposses their road?

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
do you understand debt trap?


it's a phrase you use when you pretend you know what you're on about

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
It's like the MAFIA saying we'll give you all this cash/loan as long as we get all the road & infrastructure work for ever.

it's nothing like that

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
We have a tender process ...... that would go out the door as well


tender processes are to bid for the cheapest price to build the infrastructure ... when you have someone willing to build it for free,what purpose does the tender process serve exactly?

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
as the Chinese companies would just be handed the project.


the agreement is for specific projects.

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
You should give a poo.


you should relax more
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 12:43am:
The Chinese Government is great friends of EVERY party here, cods... get with it...



including banquets and aldi bags....I know!

funny how lefties whinge loud and clear on Chinese buying up our farms and keeping house prices high...

yet dont seem to mind THIS...

I call it selling our soul to the devil...we have seen how this scheme China has used in poorer countries works....

not good not healthy.....should be a huge RED FLAG to Dan the Man.....but apparently not. Undecided

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We have a tender process ...... that would go out the door as well


tender processes are to bid for the cheapest price to build the infrastructure ... when you have someone willing to build it for free,what purpose does the tender process serve exactly?


since when will it be FREE?
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cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:36am:
since when will it be FREE?



they're paying for it cods
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John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:43am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:36am:
since when will it be FREE?



they're paying for it cods




how?  and more to the point WHY?
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cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:46am:
John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:43am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:36am:
since when will it be FREE?



they're paying for it cods




how?  and more to the point WHY?


it's called an investment. They hope to make a profit. It's the same reason the Americans and British invest here.

As far as foreign investors in Australia go, China is ranked a long way down the list at 9th. I don't see anyone crying when the other 8 invest.
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John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:49am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:46am:
John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:43am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:36am:
since when will it be FREE?



they're paying for it cods




how?  and more to the point WHY?


it's called an investment. They hope to make a profit. It's the same reason the Americans and British invest here.

As far as foreign investors in Australia go, China is ranked a long way down the list at 9th. I don't see anyone crying when the other 8 invest.





you didnt say WHY they would do this for free though


you do understand by doing this in 3rd world countries they buy that countries loyalty dont you????..

they also take over their "investments" if the country defaults......they have at least taken over two ports in two countries  that have defaulted....and now run them as they would their own in CHina....
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cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
you didnt say WHY they would do this for free though



it's not really free, it's an investment. They build the roads for example, they collect the tolls. Much the same as when Transurban agrees to pay to build a road in exchange for the next 30 years of tolls.
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cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
you do understand by doing this in 3rd world countries they buy that countries loyalty dont you????..


rubbish. They can't buy the countries loyalties. it's a myth. They've been heavily investing in Australia for well over a decade and yet we were the first to call for an inquiry into china role with covid. What happened to buying Australias loyalty there? Cheesy
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cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
they also take over their "investments" if the country defaults......they have at least taken over two ports in two countries  that have defaulted....and now run them as they would their own in CHina....



so don't default. Roll Eyes
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John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 11:00am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
you do understand by doing this in 3rd world countries they buy that countries loyalty dont you????..


rubbish. They can't buy the countries loyalties. it's a myth. They've been heavily investing in Australia for well over a decade and yet we were the first to call for an inquiry into china role with covid. What happened to buying Australias loyalty there? Cheesy



really they all have votes when it comes to dealing with China and the WHO /Human rights.../ the UN.... Angry

those investments have all been independent this is the CHINESE GOVT....   when we sell something to the chinese we have limits on it.... we can also expel individuals...

try doing that with the  CCP..

have you seen their revenge for us speaking up about covids?????????????????
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John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 11:01am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
they also take over their "investments" if the country defaults......they have at least taken over two ports in two countries  that have defaulted....and now run them as they would their own in CHina....



so don't default. Roll Eyes




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John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:34am:
Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
So employment for non Australians in Australia comes first?



what part of the deal was that exactly? or did you just make it up again?

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
Andrews has Victoria in $70billion debt to the Chinese ....


and? Who gives a crap where he borrows the money from. What are the chinese going to do? reposses their road?

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
do you understand debt trap?


it's a phrase you use when you pretend you know what you're on about

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
It's like the MAFIA saying we'll give you all this cash/loan as long as we get all the road & infrastructure work for ever.

it's nothing like that

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
We have a tender process ...... that would go out the door as well


tender processes are to bid for the cheapest price to build the infrastructure ... when you have someone willing to build it for free,what purpose does the tender process serve exactly?

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
as the Chinese companies would just be handed the project.


the agreement is for specific projects.

Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:25am:
You should give a poo.


you should relax more


Nothing is for free .... or  did you just make that up?  Roll Eyes
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Gnads wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 12:36pm:
Nothing is for free .... or  did you just make that up? 



i should have said free initially. Like every other investor regardless of nationality, I'd imagine that they eventually expect a return on their investment
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John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:49am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:46am:
John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:43am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:36am:
since when will it be FREE?



they're paying for it cods




how?  and more to the point WHY?


it's called an investment. They hope to make a profit. It's the same reason the Americans and British invest here.

As far as foreign investors in Australia go, China is ranked a long way down the list at 9th. I don't see anyone crying when the other 8 invest.


Hong Kong is as good as China ... 5.7 % all up
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cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 11:01am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
they also take over their "investments" if the country defaults......they have at least taken over two ports in two countries  that have defaulted....and now run them as they would their own in CHina....



so don't default. Roll Eyes




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he has sold his soul to the devil...

at least we know where you stand.


no cods. You're just upset because they're Chinese. We have thousand of foreign companies invest in country every year and not a peep from you .. but for some reason when it's the Chinese, its a bad thing.

I don't particularly agree with foreign investment, but until we can come up with another way to fund these things we're stuck with them. If we're stuck with them, then I don't see why we should treat the Chinese any different to any other foreign investor

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Andrews is a dictator.
He is now fining employers $10000 from Monday if they
require people working from home to return to the workplace.
He is seeking employees to dob in their bosses.
He wants them all to stay at home.
This is wrong....
This is a dictatorship....
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cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 12:32pm:
John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 11:00am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
you do understand by doing this in 3rd world countries they buy that countries loyalty dont you????..


rubbish. They can't buy the countries loyalties. it's a myth. They've been heavily investing in Australia for well over a decade and yet we were the first to call for an inquiry into china role with covid. What happened to buying Australias loyalty there? Cheesy



really they all have votes when it comes to dealing with China and the WHO /Human rights.../ the UN.... Angry

those investments have all been independent this is the CHINESE GOVT....   when we sell something to the chinese we have limits on it.... we can also expel individuals...

try doing that with the  CCP..

have you seen their revenge for us speaking up about covids?????????????????


Daniel Andrews doesn't vote on the UN cods  Cheesy Cheesy
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billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 12:55pm:
Andrews is a dictator.
He is now fining employers $10000 from Monday if they
require people working from home to return to the workplace.
He is seeking employees to dob in their bosses.
He wants them all to stay at home.
This is wrong....
This is a dictatorship....


This is public health measures.  Such a silly Billy.  Roll Eyes
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Youre still a troll... boofhead...all the posts put up today and you chose mine to troll.......
Who give a f... what you think anyway......
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billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Youre still a troll... boofhead...all the posts put up today and you chose mine to troll.......
Who give a f... what you think anyway......


Could it be that it was because your post was the most stupid?  Nah, that couldn't have been it, could it? Billy all you do is whinge, you don't offer any solutions to the problems you've identified.   I thought you'd confine yourself to Polaranimal but it appears not.   Black Orchid likes your bullshit.  I don't.  Run along little boy, back to your playground.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 12:42pm:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 12:33pm:
John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 11:01am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
they also take over their "investments" if the country defaults......they have at least taken over two ports in two countries  that have defaulted....and now run them as they would their own in CHina....



so don't default. Roll Eyes




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he has sold his soul to the devil...

at least we know where you stand.


no cods. You're just upset because they're Chinese. We have thousand of foreign companies invest in country every year and not a peep from you .. but for some reason when it's the Chinese, its a bad thing.

I don't particularly agree with foreign investment, but until we can come up with another way to fund these things we're stuck with them. If we're stuck with them, then I don't see why we should treat the Chinese any different to any other foreign investor




you do realise   the CCP dont need much of a crack in the door dont you ? we are also  head butting in the China Sea...

24billion is not chicken feed,


I sincerely hope you are right..  but my gut tells me you are not..

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Brian Ross wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 5:33pm:
billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Youre still a troll... boofhead...all the posts put up today and you chose mine to troll.......
Who give a f... what you think anyway......


Could it be that it was because you're post was the most stupid?  Nah, that couldn't have been it, could it? Billy all you do is whinge, you don't offer any solutions to the problems you've identified.   I thought you'd confine yourself to Polaranimal but it appears not.   Black Orchid likes your bullshit.  I don't.  Run along little boy, back to your playground.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Will traitor Dan fold? the opposition are saying they will scrap the Chink deal in 22 if they get in, have the Victorians had enough of this hunchback.
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Dan donates tax money to build Mosques in country Vic, what sort of Australian is this person., a Chinese cock sucking Muslim hunchback poofter would sum him up.

The belts and roads Chinese cock sucking Dan is out of step with the general community.
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John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 11:00am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
you do understand by doing this in 3rd world countries they buy that countries loyalty dont you????..


rubbish. They can't buy the countries loyalties. it's a myth.


They did a good job in buying Shanghai Sam and Dingaling Dan.

Aldi bag full of cash gets Labor onside.
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Dan needs an operation on his spine and some mental therapy.
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Just another example of the rightards' propensity for hypocrisy.

Who signed a free trade agreement with China?

Who authorised the sale of large amounts of agricultural land to Chinese interests?

Who allowed Chinese interests to invest in various Australian companies?

Who created the 400 visa so Chinese workers can take jobs off Australians?

Who encouraged the offshoring of Australian jobs to China?

If we're going to be scrutinising our business interests with China, we should be scrutinising all of them, surely?
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I don't particularly agree with foreign investment, but until we can come up with another way to fund these things we're stuck with them. If we're stuck with them, then I don't see why we should treat the Chinese any different to any other foreign investor

Increase the superannuation guarantee to 12% and allow super funds to make these investments more easily.
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Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 1:11am:
John Smith wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 11:00am:
cods wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 10:54am:
you do understand by doing this in 3rd world countries they buy that countries loyalty dont you????..


rubbish. They can't buy the countries loyalties. it's a myth.


They did a good job in buying Shanghai Sam and Dingaling Dan.

Aldi bag full of cash gets Labor onside.


why leave out all the chinese donations to the libs? It's not like they get any less than labor. Nevertheless, you're comment just proves my point.

DESPITE THAT STILL WE WERE THE FIRST TO CALL HOLD THEM TO ACCOUNT ON COVID

They can buy people, sure, but they can't buy a countries loyalties.
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Just another example of the rightards' propensity for hypocrisy.

Who signed a free trade agreement with China?

Who authorised the sale of large amounts of agricultural land to Chinese interests?

Who allowed Chinese interests to invest in various Australian companies?

Who created the 400 visa so Chinese workers can take jobs off Australians?

Who encouraged the offshoring of Australian jobs to China?

If we're going to be scrutinising our business interests with China, we should be scrutinising all of them, surely?



I bet it'll get very quite here now  Grin Grin
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John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:47am:
Bam wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:34am:
Just another example of the rightards' propensity for hypocrisy.

Who signed a free trade agreement with China?

Who authorised the sale of large amounts of agricultural land to Chinese interests?

Who allowed Chinese interests to invest in various Australian companies?

Who created the 400 visa so Chinese workers can take jobs off Australians?

Who encouraged the offshoring of Australian jobs to China?

If we're going to be scrutinising our business interests with China, we should be scrutinising all of them, surely?



I bet it'll get very quite here now  Grin Grin


The groundwork was made during Keatings time.... would have been pushed harder with Mandarin Kev & Julia ......

so I'd hazard a guess that's it been allowed to flourish under successive ALP & LNP govts. 
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Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:59am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:47am:
Bam wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:34am:
Just another example of the rightards' propensity for hypocrisy.

Who signed a free trade agreement with China?

Who authorised the sale of large amounts of agricultural land to Chinese interests?

Who allowed Chinese interests to invest in various Australian companies?

Who created the 400 visa so Chinese workers can take jobs off Australians?

Who encouraged the offshoring of Australian jobs to China?

If we're going to be scrutinising our business interests with China, we should be scrutinising all of them, surely?



I bet it'll get very quite here now  Grin Grin


The groundwork was made during Keatings time.... would have been pushed harder with Mandarin Kev & Julia ......

so I'd hazard a guess that's it been allowed to flourish under successive ALP & LNP govts. 



the groundwork for Dan was set by Nathine and Ballieu ... your point??
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The winds of politics changes at times, but international trade is not something that one can revoke or agree to overnight.  This is not like going to a shop and pay for a product, heck, its not even as easy as signing a contract to buy a house. 

The fact is, trade agreements between different countries were negotiated over prolonged period of time.   

The CCP is not a saint.  However, trading with China allowed us to escape relatively unscathed since the 1990s - through the tech bubble, and then of course, the GFC. 

Regardless of slogans, the USA continued to do business with China on a scale much larger than any other countries.  Elsewhere in Europe, it is the same.  Greece recently lowered travel ban on a number of countries including Australia and China. 

If we want Australia to be free from trade from China, it can be done.  However, it is not something that can be done within the next 10 or perhaps 20 years.   It takes time.  We are in some serious financial trouble here, and plus most of our larger companies have supply lines from China, how is that going to change in a blink of an eye? 

For now, the most critical thing for Australia is to get the economy going, get people back to work.  And us waging an asymmetrical trade war with China would mean putting the fate of our country and our sovereign at immediate risk.
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billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 9:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 5:33pm:
billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Youre still a troll... boofhead...all the posts put up today and you chose mine to troll.......
Who give a f... what you think anyway......


Could it be that it was because you're post was the most stupid?  Nah, that couldn't have been it, could it? Billy all you do is whinge, you don't offer any solutions to the problems you've identified.   I thought you'd confine yourself to Polaranimal but it appears not.   Black Orchid likes your bullshit.  I don't.  Run along little boy, back to your playground.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Have you seen a specialist about your aspergers...moron..


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I do not have Aspergers nor do I have Autism. You however appear to be a typical bully - completely unable to handle criticism, so you resort to personal abuse.   So childish, so silly.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 10:14am:
Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:59am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:47am:
Bam wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:34am:
Just another example of the rightards' propensity for hypocrisy.

Who signed a free trade agreement with China?

Who authorised the sale of large amounts of agricultural land to Chinese interests?

Who allowed Chinese interests to invest in various Australian companies?

Who created the 400 visa so Chinese workers can take jobs off Australians?

Who encouraged the offshoring of Australian jobs to China?

If we're going to be scrutinising our business interests with China, we should be scrutinising all of them, surely?



I bet it'll get very quite here now  Grin Grin


The groundwork was made during Keatings time.... would have been pushed harder with Mandarin Kev & Julia ......

so I'd hazard a guess that's it been allowed to flourish under successive ALP & LNP govts. 



the groundwork for Dan was set by Nathine and Ballieu ... your point??


Your point?
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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 2:04pm:
billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 9:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 5:33pm:
billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Youre still a troll... boofhead...all the posts put up today and you chose mine to troll.......
Who give a f... what you think anyway......


Could it be that it was because you're post was the most stupid?  Nah, that couldn't have been it, could it? Billy all you do is whinge, you don't offer any solutions to the problems you've identified.   I thought you'd confine yourself to Polaranimal but it appears not.   Black Orchid likes your bullshit.  I don't.  Run along little boy, back to your playground.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Have you seen a specialist about your aspergers...moron..


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I do not have Aspergers nor do I have Autism. You however appear to be a typical bully - completely unable to handle criticism, so you resort to personal abuse.   So childish, so silly.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Youre a f...idiot...
You send me a private message suggesting that Gordon and I are one and the same person, and you come on here suggesting that I am a typical bully....
Don't send me any more private messages f..wit……
Youre a moron...always have been ...always will be...
Go and see your shrink boofhead….
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tickleandrose wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 2:00pm:
The winds of politics changes at times, but international trade is not something that one can revoke or agree to overnight.  This is not like going to a shop and pay for a product, heck, its not even as easy as signing a contract to buy a house. 

The fact is, trade agreements between different countries were negotiated over prolonged period of time.   

The CCP is not a saint.  However, trading with China allowed us to escape relatively unscathed since the 1990s - through the tech bubble, and then of course, the GFC. 

Regardless of slogans, the USA continued to do business with China on a scale much larger than any other countries.  Elsewhere in Europe, it is the same.  Greece recently lowered travel ban on a number of countries including Australia and China. 

If we want Australia to be free from trade from China, it can be done.  However, it is not something that can be done within the next 10 or perhaps 20 years.   It takes time.  We are in some serious financial trouble here, and plus most of our larger companies have supply lines from China, how is that going to change in a blink of an eye? 

For now, the most critical thing for Australia is to get the economy going, get people back to work.  And us waging an asymmetrical trade war with China would mean putting the fate of our country and our sovereign at immediate risk. 


The precursor to large-scale modern warfare has been economic crisis, and the onset of conflict, by pulling together all the strands of a nation that are not operating well, raises the nation above it.

WWII was preceded by the Great Depression - and some have ventured to say that the 'military-industrial complex' only thrives well when it has the means to dispose of production - sending your national product at an enemy is one way of doing that, and it is postulated, under the MIC paradigm, that this means the MIC actually encourages war as a means of disposing of production.

Such a scenario could be the future with China if it suffers an economic downturn due to a form of de facto embargo - with nations steadily cutting it out of the trade loop, i.e. go to war so as to dispose of your national production.  Such 'embargoes' may also drive it to expansionism by direct force... as occurred with Japan in 1941.

The New Democratic People's South and East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere could be on the cards...
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Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 2:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 10:14am:
Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:59am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:47am:
Bam wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:34am:
Just another example of the rightards' propensity for hypocrisy.

Who signed a free trade agreement with China?

Who authorised the sale of large amounts of agricultural land to Chinese interests?

Who allowed Chinese interests to invest in various Australian companies?

Who created the 400 visa so Chinese workers can take jobs off Australians?

Who encouraged the offshoring of Australian jobs to China?

If we're going to be scrutinising our business interests with China, we should be scrutinising all of them, surely?



I bet it'll get very quite here now  Grin Grin


The groundwork was made during Keatings time.... would have been pushed harder with Mandarin Kev & Julia ......

so I'd hazard a guess that's it been allowed to flourish under successive ALP & LNP govts. 



the groundwork for Dan was set by Nathine and Ballieu ... your point??


Your point?


just trying to work out what keating has to do with anything. You mentioned him and I was hoping you had some point to make but it looks like it was just your typical deflective rambling
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John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 3:27pm:
Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 2:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 10:14am:
Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:59am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:47am:
Bam wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:34am:
Just another example of the rightards' propensity for hypocrisy.

Who signed a free trade agreement with China?

Who authorised the sale of large amounts of agricultural land to Chinese interests?

Who allowed Chinese interests to invest in various Australian companies?

Who created the 400 visa so Chinese workers can take jobs off Australians?

Who encouraged the offshoring of Australian jobs to China?

If we're going to be scrutinising our business interests with China, we should be scrutinising all of them, surely?



I bet it'll get very quite here now  Grin Grin


The groundwork was made during Keatings time.... would have been pushed harder with Mandarin Kev & Julia ......

so I'd hazard a guess that's it been allowed to flourish under successive ALP & LNP govts. 



the groundwork for Dan was set by Nathine and Ballieu ... your point??


Your point?


just trying to work out what keating has to do with anything. You mentioned him and I was hoping you had some point to make but it looks like it was just your typical deflective rambling


Keating paved the way with his 'banana republic' myth - we already were one - and by launching Labor's campaign to make Australia 'part of Asia'** which was then perpetuated by his Labor following rulers elite - as if the John Smiths of this world needed to compete directly with people paid less than one tenth of Smith's wages and often much less.

If it were not for the Masque Of The Politician Death and the ability of 'national leaders' to pull the wool over the eyes of the nation, this would be called Sellout and Treason.

And now it begins - The Rise of The 'Right Wing' a.k.a. the Socialists intent on putting the Nation first... as China so clearly has in its seats of power.


**as well as continuing the reduction of the populace under servitude commenced by the Government of National Reconciliation which, rather than reconciling Labour to Employer offered power and control to Employer by attacking Unions; followed by 'the recession we had to have' - meaning Australia could no longer be uppity and act like a First World Country on a Third World economy and budget and trade structure - the same infamous Banana Republic.
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Keating paved the way with his 'banana republic' myth -



Since that time we had the libs in got for over 18 out of 24 yrs. When do they take responsibility for their action / inaction?
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billy the kid wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 2:14pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 2:04pm:
billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 9:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 5:33pm:
billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Youre still a troll... boofhead...all the posts put up today and you chose mine to troll.......
Who give a f... what you think anyway......


Could it be that it was because you're post was the most stupid?  Nah, that couldn't have been it, could it? Billy all you do is whinge, you don't offer any solutions to the problems you've identified.   I thought you'd confine yourself to Polaranimal but it appears not.   Black Orchid likes your bullshit.  I don't.  Run along little boy, back to your playground.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Have you seen a specialist about your aspergers...moron..


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I do not have Aspergers nor do I have Autism. You however appear to be a typical bully - completely unable to handle criticism, so you resort to personal abuse.   So childish, so silly.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Youre a f...idiot...
You send me a private message suggesting that Gordon and I are one and the same person, and you come on here suggesting that I am a typical bully....
Don't send me any more private messages f..wit……
Youre a moron...always have been ...always will be...
Go and see your shrink boofhead….


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You are not allowed to reveal what is in private messages, Billy.  Yes, it appears it was a mistake to accuse you of being a Sock.   So foolish, so predictable.  Run along, little man.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 4:48pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 4:25pm:
Keating paved the way with his 'banana republic' myth -



Since that time we had the libs in got for over 18 out of 24 yrs. When do they take responsibility for their action / inaction?


I'm merely pointing out when the rot began, as per the question raised.... it started with Hawke and the Government Of Wrecking A Silly Nation... emasculated the Unions and thus made the ordinary person vulnerable to despotism... typical bloody Ultra-Socialist...

The LNP may seek to rule by Divine Right and as an Entitlement™ - Labor want to rule like Stalin.. and no bloody Trotsky-ites from the Unions and the common herd, thanks... you can't have a consensus of the people running the show.... how would a government function at all?

All traitors to their own... and slaves to their own wallets....
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I'm merely pointing out when the rot began, as per the question raised.... it started with Hawke and the Government Of Wrecking A Silly Nation..



so not Keating ... make up your mind Cheesy
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 1:26am:
I'm merely pointing out when the rot began, as per the question raised.... it started with Hawke and the Government Of Wrecking A Silly Nation..



so not Keating ... make up your mind Cheesy


Try keeping up... not going to explain it all to you over and over.  Your personal choice of being obtuse is your problem.  I've stated the simple truths here time and again - get it into your head.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 10:55am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 10:04am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 1:26am:
I'm merely pointing out when the rot began, as per the question raised.... it started with Hawke and the Government Of Wrecking A Silly Nation..



so not Keating ... make up your mind Cheesy


Try keeping up...


you keep changing your mind. First keating started it now Hawke started it. Which one are you running with?
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billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 9:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 5:33pm:
billy the kid wrote on May 30th, 2020 at 4:42pm:
Youre still a troll... boofhead...all the posts put up today and you chose mine to troll.......
Who give a f... what you think anyway......


Could it be that it was because you're post was the most stupid?  Nah, that couldn't have been it, could it? Billy all you do is whinge, you don't offer any solutions to the problems you've identified.   I thought you'd confine yourself to Polaranimal but it appears not.   Black Orchid likes your bullshit.  I don't.  Run along little boy, back to your playground.  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Have you seen a specialist about your aspergers...moron..


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I do not have Aspergers nor do I have Autism.

You have Bwianism.
Much worse.



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Reply #60 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:03pm
 
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Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 8:34pm:
You are not allowed to reveal what is in private messages, Billy. 


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No, 'cause the Forum Rules say you aren't, Soren.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #61 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 3:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 8:34pm:
You are not allowed to reveal what is in private messages, Billy. 


Cheesy Grin
Weally, Aunty Bwian?? Not allowed? Coz Aunty Bwin will be cwoss?


No, 'cause the Forum Rules say you aren't, Soren.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your PM to someone accusing them of being a sock does not reveal any personal information about you, Bwian, only what we all know already about you - that you are an uncomprehending yet colossally vain old fool.  That's no violation of privacy rules here or anywhere else as these are aspects of you that you readily reveal about yourself every day.


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Reply #62 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:36pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 3:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 8:34pm:
You are not allowed to reveal what is in private messages, Billy. 


Cheesy Grin
Weally, Aunty Bwian?? Not allowed? Coz Aunty Bwin will be cwoss?


No, 'cause the Forum Rules say you aren't, Soren.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your PM to someone accusing them of being a sock does not reveal any personal information about you, Bwian, only what we all know already about you - that you are an uncomprehending yet colossally vain old fool.  That's no violation of privacy rules here or anywhere else as these are aspects of you that you readily reveal about yourself every day.


Forum rule:

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A fool such as bwian could quite easily ascertain if Gordon and I were one and the same person by approaching the appropriate moderator and simply asking to confirm or deny. Instead bwian, in his usual condescending, arrogant, supercilious manner prefers to troll me as he enjoys being a troll.
Bwian and I go back a bit on another forum where I had the audacity to post negative comments about islam. As
this offended bwian, he simply took it upon himself to constantly berate me, telling me that he has many muslim friends and they are all good people.
Needless to say the thread I created was about islam...not muslims….
But bwian, suffering badly from aspergers syndrome, just loves to argue about everything and anything....

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Reply #63 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 5:56pm
 
billy the kid wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:36pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 3:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 8:34pm:
You are not allowed to reveal what is in private messages, Billy. 


Cheesy Grin
Weally, Aunty Bwian?? Not allowed? Coz Aunty Bwin will be cwoss?


No, 'cause the Forum Rules say you aren't, Soren.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your PM to someone accusing them of being a sock does not reveal any personal information about you, Bwian, only what we all know already about you - that you are an uncomprehending yet colossally vain old fool.  That's no violation of privacy rules here or anywhere else as these are aspects of you that you readily reveal about yourself every day.


Forum rule:

Do not post personal information about other members without their explicit permission. This includes the contents of personal messages and emails, photos, names, IP addresses, phone numbers, locations etc. This includes information that can be found online and instructions on how to find information about specific members. Such behaviour is considered stalking.


A fool such as bwian could quite easily ascertain if Gordon and I were one and the same person by approaching the appropriate moderator and simply asking to confirm or deny. Instead bwian, in his usual condescending, arrogant, supercilious manner prefers to troll me as he enjoys being a troll.
Bwian and I go back a bit on another forum where I had the audacity to post negative comments about islam. As
this offended bwian, he simply took it upon himself to constantly berate me, telling me that he has many muslim friends and they are all good people.
Needless to say the thread I created was about islam...not muslims….
But bwian, suffering badly from aspergers syndrome, just loves to argue about everything and anything....




Haha!!  He's been doing that here for years, too. He's an uncomprehending, vain old pillock.



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Reply #64 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 6:21pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 3:27pm:
Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 2:04pm:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 10:14am:
Gnads wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:59am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:47am:
Bam wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 9:34am:
Just another example of the rightards' propensity for hypocrisy.

Who signed a free trade agreement with China?

Who authorised the sale of large amounts of agricultural land to Chinese interests?

Who allowed Chinese interests to invest in various Australian companies?

Who created the 400 visa so Chinese workers can take jobs off Australians?

Who encouraged the offshoring of Australian jobs to China?

If we're going to be scrutinising our business interests with China, we should be scrutinising all of them, surely?



I bet it'll get very quite here now  Grin Grin


The groundwork was made during Keatings time.... would have been pushed harder with Mandarin Kev & Julia ......

so I'd hazard a guess that's it been allowed to flourish under successive ALP & LNP govts. 



the groundwork for Dan was set by Nathine and Ballieu ... your point??


Your point?


just trying to work out what keating has to do with anything. You mentioned him and I was hoping you had some point to make but it looks like it was just your typical deflective rambling


He was pushing the Chinese trade & investment barrow ........ long before any of our recent or current crop of LNP or ALP pollies.

Don't you accuse anyone of deflective rambling you hypocrite.
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Reply #65 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 7:22pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 11:05am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 10:55am:
John Smith wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 10:04am:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 1:26am:
I'm merely pointing out when the rot began, as per the question raised.... it started with Hawke and the Government Of Wrecking A Silly Nation..



so not Keating ... make up your mind Cheesy


Try keeping up...


you keep changing your mind. First keating started it now Hawke started it. Which one are you running with?



Never said anything of the sort with regard to China - Hawke's contribution is in a different sphere, as clearly outlaid by me .... get with it.  Hawke started the rot within - Keating pushed the Asian barrow... not the same thing at all.... but part of the end result.

Go read Gnad's comment on Keating... and put it all down slowly on a piece of paper so you can follow it more carefully in future.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #66 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 8:52pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 3:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 8:34pm:
You are not allowed to reveal what is in private messages, Billy. 


Cheesy Grin
Weally, Aunty Bwian?? Not allowed? Coz Aunty Bwin will be cwoss?


No, 'cause the Forum Rules say you aren't, Soren.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your PM to someone accusing them of being a sock does not reveal any personal information about you, Bwian, only what we all know already about you - that you are an uncomprehending yet colossally vain old fool.  That's no violation of privacy rules here or anywhere else as these are aspects of you that you readily reveal about yourself every day.


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I have changed your highlighting to express the section I was referring to, Soren.  Amazing that you'd miss it.  Must be something in your antipathy towards me.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #67 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 8:57pm
 
billy the kid wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:36pm:
A fool such as bwian could quite easily ascertain if Gordon and I were one and the same person by approaching the appropriate moderator and simply asking to confirm or deny. Instead bwian, in his usual condescending, arrogant, supercilious manner prefers to troll me as he enjoys being a troll.
Bwian and I go back a bit on another forum where I had the audacity to post negative comments about islam. As
this offended bwian, he simply took it upon himself to constantly berate me, telling me that he has many muslim friends and they are all good people.
Needless to say the thread I created was about islam...not muslims….
But bwian, suffering badly from aspergers syndrome, just loves to argue about everything and anything....


Wow. Just cannot handle criticism can you, Billy?  Oh, dearie, dearie, me, I will remember in future not to level any towards you as you are so sacrosanct...  You seem unable to understand that Islam is Muslims - good and bad.  You like most whinging Islamophobes fail to differentiate for some reason.  Could it be because of your Islamophobia?

Again you are not reading the forum rules.  I suggest you (and Soren) do so.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #68 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 9:11pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 8:52pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 3:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 8:34pm:
You are not allowed to reveal what is in private messages, Billy. 


Cheesy Grin
Weally, Aunty Bwian?? Not allowed? Coz Aunty Bwin will be cwoss?


No, 'cause the Forum Rules say you aren't, Soren.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your PM to someone accusing them of being a sock does not reveal any personal information about you, Bwian, only what we all know already about you - that you are an uncomprehending yet colossally vain old fool.  That's no violation of privacy rules here or anywhere else as these are aspects of you that you readily reveal about yourself every day.


Forum rule:

Do not post personal information about other members without their explicit permission. This includes the contents of personal messages and emails, photos, names, IP addresses, phone numbers, locations etc. This includes information that can be found online and instructions on how to find information about specific members. Such behaviour is considered stalking.



I have changed your highlighting to express the section I was referring to, Soren.  Amazing that you'd miss it.  Must be something in your antipathy towards me.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an idiot, Bwian. Nothing personal. You just are, an uncomprehending idiot.
Your accusing someone of being a sock is not personal information about you, fool.

I thought you were two-plank thick. Up that to four planks.



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Reply #69 - Jun 2nd, 2020 at 9:37pm
 
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 9:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 8:52pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:11pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 4:03pm:
Frank wrote on Jun 2nd, 2020 at 3:44pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Jun 1st, 2020 at 8:34pm:
You are not allowed to reveal what is in private messages, Billy. 


Cheesy Grin
Weally, Aunty Bwian?? Not allowed? Coz Aunty Bwin will be cwoss?


No, 'cause the Forum Rules say you aren't, Soren.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



Your PM to someone accusing them of being a sock does not reveal any personal information about you, Bwian, only what we all know already about you - that you are an uncomprehending yet colossally vain old fool.  That's no violation of privacy rules here or anywhere else as these are aspects of you that you readily reveal about yourself every day.


Forum rule:

Do not post personal information about other members without their explicit permission. This includes the contents of personal messages and emails, photos, names, IP addresses, phone numbers, locations etc. This includes information that can be found online and instructions on how to find information about specific members. Such behaviour is considered stalking.



I have changed your highlighting to express the section I was referring to, Soren.  Amazing that you'd miss it.  Must be something in your antipathy towards me.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

You are an idiot, Bwian. Nothing personal. You just are, an uncomprehending idiot.
Your accusing someone of being a sock is not personal information about you, fool.


What don't you understand about the words, "This includes the contents of personal messages and emails", Soren?   If you have problems you can read it out aloud to yourself and you can trace the words with your forefinger if it helps.  Eventually you'll grasp their meaning with a little help from your friends, I am sure.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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