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What a con by NZ..watch it take off in Australia. (Read 5051 times)
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Reply #30 - May 20th, 2020 at 6:39pm
 
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:12pm:
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:08pm:
People like lawyers, doctors, engineers etc. At least, the ones who really want a promotion.


or those that want to keep their job.



This is usually clearly stated upfront in the contract. So yeah, they have already chosen.


ahh, no, not really.

Besides, It's not much of a choice when it's either say yes or no job.
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Reply #31 - May 20th, 2020 at 6:50pm
 
My last post is the last post on this thread...John can you duplicate your last post...something is not working at my end...
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Reply #32 - May 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm
 
As you were....page 3 has just appeared.....
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Reply #33 - May 20th, 2020 at 6:52pm
 
billy the kid wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:50pm:
My last post is the last post on this thread...John can you duplicate your last post...something is not working at my end...



sometimes the forum has an issue with flipping the page. If you hit reply on the last comment, you can still read the next comment. It usually sorts itself out after a few posts.

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Reply #34 - May 20th, 2020 at 6:54pm
 
OK thanx for that..
This will do me for the moment..
Thanx for a spirited discussion....
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Reply #35 - May 20th, 2020 at 9:45pm
 
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:39pm:
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:12pm:
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:08pm:
People like lawyers, doctors, engineers etc. At least, the ones who really want a promotion.


or those that want to keep their job.



This is usually clearly stated upfront in the contract. So yeah, they have already chosen.


ahh, no, not really.

Besides, It's not much of a choice when it's either say yes or no job.


Fear of the unknown is not the same thing as absence of choice.
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Reply #36 - May 21st, 2020 at 1:44am
 
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 5:27pm:
It's a good idea in principle. It would certainly help solve the unemployment problem.

The only problem is that many people are living week by week working a 5 day week. Cut their pay and they won't be able to survive



Ah - the reduction of the peasantry under despotism by removing from them their ability to earn enough to get by, and thus they will be more subservient** - look on the bright side - they'll only have to pay exorbitant road tolls four days a week instead of five... so those with a season ticket will be able to claim 'pay taken without service rendered'...

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Reply #37 - May 21st, 2020 at 5:40am
 
I can see it happening.

But with a twist or two.

Companies want to stay open 7 days a week in the mini g industry.
It allows them to service their 24/7 customers better.
But it's expensive in penalty rates and overtime.

Bring on the. Day week.
4 days on, 4 days off.
Weekends will no longer attract penalty rates.
Pays can be cut and working hours staggered across the workforce.

Trades will get less allowing more to be employed and more can cover more hours.
The hour of cross over woukd be used to communicate issues and information.

I can see it happening.
And it will be a hard fought battle with the unions.
But in the end, the companies will win.

After all, penalty rates disappeared from most people already.
Leave loading went years ago.
Overtime will be gone soon.

We will be slaves in all but name.
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Reply #38 - May 21st, 2020 at 7:27am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 5:28pm:
(aka Mr Ed)

WTF is this drivel?


What? You can physically ridicule an American President because of his Race (Ranga), but not a NZ PM because she looks like a Horse? I guess you have your money on Jacinta to beat Trump past the post.
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Reply #39 - May 21st, 2020 at 8:44am
 
Actually I was tossing a coin between Mr Ed and Tiny Tim....
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Reply #40 - May 21st, 2020 at 8:46am
 
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 9:45pm:
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:39pm:
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:14pm:
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:12pm:
freediver wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 6:08pm:
People like lawyers, doctors, engineers etc. At least, the ones who really want a promotion.


or those that want to keep their job.



This is usually clearly stated upfront in the contract. So yeah, they have already chosen.


ahh, no, not really.

Besides, It's not much of a choice when it's either say yes or no job.


Fear of the unknown is not the same thing as absence of choice.


fear of the unknown? Is that what you're calling unemployment now?

you should get a job for the liberal party
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Reply #41 - May 21st, 2020 at 9:15am
 
John Smith wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 5:50pm:
Are you trying to compete with bobby here?


Is FD on his knees in the men's room?

On a more serious note, France with its shorter working hours used to be said to be more productive than the USA ... not sure if that still holds true or not.
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Reply #42 - May 21st, 2020 at 10:05am
 
billy the kid wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 5:53pm:
She hasnt released the details yet because its just a thought bubble to test the waters...I dont need the details....four days wages is less than five days wages....


Are you sure the wages are going to be reduced?

I know dozens of people who have changed from five days a week to four days a week, and they didn't lose a cent in pay.

Five day week, 38 hours = work 7.6 hours per day.

Four day week, 38 hours = work 9.5 hours per day.

Exact same pay, but they work a longer day.
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Reply #43 - May 21st, 2020 at 10:32am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 10:05am:
billy the kid wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 5:53pm:
She hasnt released the details yet because its just a thought bubble to test the waters...I dont need the details....four days wages is less than five days wages....


Are you sure the wages are going to be reduced?

I know dozens of people who have changed from five days a week to four days a week, and they didn't lose a cent in pay.

Five day week, 38 hours = work 7.6 hours per day.

Four day week, 38 hours = work 9.5 hours per day.

Exact same pay, but they work a longer day.



thats how it works here....they havent released the details  or the fine print yet... Wink Wink
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Reply #44 - May 21st, 2020 at 10:33am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on May 21st, 2020 at 10:05am:
billy the kid wrote on May 20th, 2020 at 5:53pm:
She hasnt released the details yet because its just a thought bubble to test the waters...I dont need the details....four days wages is less than five days wages....


Are you sure the wages are going to be reduced?

I know dozens of people who have changed from five days a week to four days a week, and they didn't lose a cent in pay.

Five day week, 38 hours = work 7.6 hours per day.

Four day week, 38 hours = work 9.5 hours per day.

Exact same pay, but they work a longer day.


"The New Zealand company behind a landmark trial of a four-day working week has declared it a success and will be adopting the new schedule full time.

"Almost 250 staff at Perpetual Guardian, a company which manages trusts, wills and estate planning, trialled a four-day working week over March and April this year, working four eight-hour days but getting paid for five."


'No downside': New Zealand firm adopts four-day week after successful trial

"A New Zealand company is on the cusp of granting its employees the ultimate in work-life balance: four days work for five days pay."

Work four days, get paid for five: New Zealand company's new shorter week
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