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Reply #15 - May 19th, 2020 at 4:04pm
 
Jasin wrote on May 19th, 2020 at 7:24am:
What's a good glue to fix a broken/torn paper mache French Horn? I'm thinking a Glue stick (snap to work) one uses to put weathershields on vehicles.

Clag is the best glue for this job, if you can't find any clag at your local craft shop just mix up flour and water to the consistency of clag and it works just as well.
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Reply #16 - May 19th, 2020 at 4:35pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on May 16th, 2020 at 9:38pm:
I use adhesives a lot at work to fix all sorts of stuff, even glue quite a few things at home now.
They usually work out well.

A few things that help my gluing jobs are

1/ Use the right sort of glue.
2/ Prepare the parts well. Clean, dry. rough up the surfaces.
3/ Mix the glue thoroughly if it is a 2 part type, be careful to use the stated 50/50 mix or whatever is stated.
4/ Lightly clamp the pieces together as they are drying. A few rubber bands work well.
5/ Leave these parts untouched for much longer than you imagine.
All Glues take 24 hours to dry, even superglue. They take a week or more to cure.




The best way is to glue and screw.
Use wood screws as well as glue to hold something together.
Also:
if you can't screw the 2 items together then you can glue and pin them.
I have found that large paper clips have strong steel that is 1 mm in diameter -
an exact match for a 1 mm drill to make a hole in both parts.
You make pins out of the paper clip "wire" and sand them with emery paper
to acquire a rough surface to help the glue stick to the pins.
Use several pins - as many as possible.
I have repaired many items that way with great success - often using Araldite.
The 24 hour version is much stronger than the 5 minute Araldite
so it's preferred if you're not in a hurry.
Leave it clamped for 2 to 3 days using G-clamps or a vice.
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Reply #17 - May 19th, 2020 at 5:02pm
 
Jasin wrote on May 19th, 2020 at 7:24am:
What's a good glue to fix a broken/torn paper mache French Horn? I'm thinking a Glue stick (snap to work) one uses to put weathershields on vehicles.


Maybe bondcrete?
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Reply #18 - May 19th, 2020 at 5:19pm
 
Liquid nails is used widely within the building industry, they use it to glue gyprock to walls etc, along with screws, its a good all round glue for heavy duty stuff.

Selleys Liquid Nails is a premium grade multi-purpose construction adhesive that delivers a consistently strong and lasting bond on most building materials to cope with shrinkage and thermal movement. Ideal for use in all weather, Selleys Liquid Nails offers a flexible, high strength bond that can be painted once dry.

nb: Always wear full ppe and do a risk assessment  when attempting to fix things.
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Reply #19 - May 19th, 2020 at 9:21pm
 
Jasin wrote on May 19th, 2020 at 7:24am:
What's a good glue to fix a broken/torn paper mache French Horn? I'm thinking a Glue stick (snap to work) one uses to put weathershields on vehicles.


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Reply #20 - May 19th, 2020 at 10:40pm
 
Borrowed some ordinary wood glue. Seems to work well with the paper/cardboardy mache. Didn't 'soak' it weak either thankfully.

That Gorilla Glue is crap though. If you don't get the right amount of moisture added, it's crap.
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Reply #21 - May 23rd, 2020 at 1:06pm
 
I remember the good old days.

Making glue from horses.

Well, that's not quite true.

The glue is actually made from the bones of animals, usually cattle or horses.
We were taught at school this technique and the glue was great for wood.

How you ask do you make Glen from bones?
You boil them or melt them into a gelatinous glue substance.

Now days, with all the modern alternatives, we never use it.

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Reply #22 - May 26th, 2020 at 1:28pm
 
Stick it to 'em, boys!
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Reply #23 - May 26th, 2020 at 1:30pm
 
Jasin wrote on May 19th, 2020 at 10:40pm:
Borrowed some ordinary wood glue. Seems to work well with the paper/cardboardy mache. Didn't 'soak' it weak either thankfully.

That Gorilla Glue is crap though. If you don't get the right amount of moisture added, it's crap.


Wood glue is good for many things... sometimes I build flying model aircraft and wood glue is better than the recommended stuff.. I also coat all surfaces with it and allow them to dry to give greater strength to balsa.

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Reply #24 - May 26th, 2020 at 10:02pm
 
I'm not a fan of that Tarzan Grip glue.
Very stringy and messy, runs too much straight off the cuff.
Only good for wide/flat surfaces.
Becomes 'brittle' too, when dry.
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