What a sellout, they even sell our water to the Chinese and they don't even need a land entitlement.

"One Nation leader Pauline Hanson says it’s “an absolute disgrace” the government has done nothing about Chinese Communist Party owned companies buying up Australian water, including in the Murray-Darling Basin."

Brian Ross wrote on May 10^th, 2020 at 11:35pm:

The ears prick up when I hear its the Chinese Communist Party buying our water. They will channel the water to their own dairy beef fruit veg farms to feed themselves, they are already doing it. They will also charge us to drink our own water.

Everything the CCP does has a strategic angle.

Could you imagine any foreign power having any control over a critical resource in China? Nup.....

every idiot here crying about Chinese buying our land or water would sell their place to a Chinese in a heart beat if it meant they could get more money

Another crystal clear example of where the private enterprise model has failed utterly to produce the goods.

What is totally wrong about the failed water management scheme is that people buy and sell water 'rights' without the water actually being 'managed' in any real way- just another easy way of transferring public held wealth in Treasury into the hands of a few on the inside.

After 'consolidated revenue', 'privatisation' is the greatest rort ever perpetrated on a gullible public.

BOTR!

chimera wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:02am:


Broo ha-ha - got a look at its structure and such?  Modern day Opium Wars?

Who in the hell is Jihua?  Is that kind of like a shadow Australian company that produces and sells beer direct in China?  Or is this just another 'export' that will end up paying buggar-all taxes?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 11:12am:



I'm calling bullshit. If you listed your place for sale and the agent told you that you had an full price offer from a chinese couple and another offer by someone else that was $20k less, you'd take the highest. You can lie to yourself and say you wouldn't but i don't believe you

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 11:10am:

"Broo Limited has announced that Jinxing Beer Group has started its production of Broo Premium Lager in Zhengzhou. Last year Broo sealed the partnership with Jinxing to produce the beer and then distribute through its nationwide Chinese network."

The Australians are quietly stealing China's water supply and blaming their partner , a Shanghai water-drug lord.

tickleandrose wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 2:05pm:

1. they can buy our water without owning any land.

2. They are buying our water for an investment alright.

Don't our politicians know that the Chinese can afford to buy anything they want and are doing so, they only want the good stuff though.

"China is buying up Australian land, infrastructure and businesses at an alarming rate as it seeks to project power and influence beyond its shores.

The communist nation of 1.4billion people owns an airport in Western Australia, nine million hectares of Australian land, several Aussie coalmines and wind farms and even the Port of Darwin, a key strategic asset.

China is also the largest foreign owner of Australian water

Chinese investors have added another 50,000 hectares to their Australian property portfolio, taking the total area of property under Chinese control to more than 9.1 million hectares amid growing concerns over foreign interference and national security.

China is now the second largest investor in Australian land and is within a million hectares of the top landholder, the United Kingdom, as Canberra moves to tighten controls over foreign investors.

The amount of Australian farm land owned by Chinese interests has surged tenfold in the past year, climbing above 14 million hectares or 2.5 per cent of all agricultural land.

The findings from the Australian Tax Office's Agricultural Land Register, released this week, show the UK and China are the largest owners of foreign-held land in Australia, owning 27 per cent and 25 per cent respectively.

The amount of Australian farm land owned by Chinese interests has surged tenfold in the past year, climbing above 14 million hectares or 2.5 per cent of all agricultural land.

The findings from the Australian Tax Office's Agricultural Land Register, released this week, show the UK and China are the largest owners of foreign-held land in Australia, owning 27 per cent and 25 per cent respectively."

If anyone has been to or seen footage of real estate auctions in Sydney or Melbourne they would see 8 out of 10 attendees are Chinese, they are snapping up everything they can get their hands on.

They can piss off and take their virus with them.

Brian Ross wrote on May 10^th, 2020 at 11:35pm:

Idiot, once again.

As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules.

Nobody can be as stupid as you pretend to be, Bwian, you are malicious, an enemy of Australia, an agent of foreign commie influences. You are an 'anti-capitalist= idiot' so your toxic, idiotic, mindless agitation is well documented.

Toxic idiot and enemy - that's you, Bwian.

Frank wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

If they don't have land where do they put the water?

Their port in Darwin needs water. They buy cheap in Tasmania and fill the harbour.

Frank wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:




Anything of value to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   

Johnnie wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 6:09pm:


You got it - the issue is control over resources, and thus control over a nation.  National security as opposed to notional security, innit? 

Under the current water trading scheme - that incredible furphy that costs billions to run and benefits the insiders - water is a commodity to be bought and sold on for profit... not to be utilised for the purpose John Smith gave it (sorry - he only thinks he's god) .. that is the whole truth about the 'water trading scheme' that is supposed to somehow generate more efficient use of water...

It does nothing of the kind - it breeds inefficient waste while offering opportunity for profiteering from sale of water 'rights'... no wonder the Indigenous are almost up in arms over the rape of their Inland Nations...

Milagro the Bastards - if the water runs past your farm - suck it up!!  The wasters downstream won't miss it anyway.... and it will only run off to the sea or into swamps.

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:14pm:


Those that can be enlightened will be enlightened.  Soren has his head so far up his arse, he's see can see daylight.  Why no criticism of his continual bucketloads of mud that he continually dumps on me?   

There are suspicions that some milk formula tins on Qantas flights to the Forbidden City are carrying Murray River mud. The fish are filtered out and dumped in Wuhan, kids get the leftover.

Brian is either too stupid or too much of a traitor to realise China is actually at war with the west, but we're just starting to figure that out.

Gordon wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:29pm:


I doubt the best Proctologist in the world could get to the "bottom" of Brian's problem without bringing in a brigade of sanitary workers to clean the shite out of his nappy.

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 9:43pm:


Perhaps a better question would be why he initiates this mud throwing, Set.  You seem to be assuming he is innocent in this exchange.  Why?  Do you like Soren's bullshit for some obscure reason?  Mmm? 

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:55pm:


Cue the Islamophobe-Callers who consider that poor suffering Islamites are reacting when they are wandering the streets with signs saying to behead others... victims, innit?  Kind of a chicken and egg or horse and cart argument, innit?

So - not only do we have wars of National/Ethnic Inferiority Complex being considered acceptable - we also have wars of National/Ethnic Paranoia considered acceptable?

Why not just declare a level playing field, and just say that any psychiatric or psychological disorder is acceptable and sufficient reason to commit mass murder based on a national or personal or ethnic group feeling?

Save a lot of time and trouble that way.

"Tom - get me the President on the line ... we're declaring everyone with a gripe our national and mortal enemy........"

"Yes, Sir!"

"Wait one, Tom - don't call the President just yet... I think we need to look more closely at Yankophobia and Australophobia for a minute.... they don't 'sing' as well as 'Sinophobia' or 'Islamophobia' which kind of roll off the tongue - we might need to work on the naming a little here..."

China respects the British and American people here.
But the Boongs and the 'White' Australians with 'no name' - it treats like stupid primitives he can be bought with a mirror and beads. Like a stimulus package - easily bought, with the money to come back to them like a boomerang anyway.

Jasin wrote on May 12^th, 2020 at 7:46am:


Should see Brian when it's less than 2 minutes to Wapner and he hasn't found a TV.

Brian Ross wrote on May 12^th, 2020 at 8:31pm:




Anything of value to add to the thread, Brian?  No, it doesn't appears so.  Tsk, Tsk.   

They TRADE in it - the profit goes offshore and tax is buried deep so that none is paid.

It's a rort pure and simple.. and it is blatant removal from this nation of money that should rightfully remain here, as well as control over a necessity of economic and social life, for the simple reason that purchasing of 'rights' can be used to cut out any and all opposition, thus handing total power to an oligarchy that does not even live here and does not rely on the production from that resource for food and trade.

Governments need to wake up and stop their silly 'private enterprise model' nonsense, as being more efficient, and get with the realities... by creating these costly ventures they are actually contributing to rises in costs of living and thus of inflation caused by the accelerating inability of the common dollar to go the distance to meet costs of living, which in turn creates a demand for upward wage rises and a steadily diminishing opportunity of the common person to keep up, and thus to a reduction in standards of living.

It's called INFLATION, whichever way you cook it, and it is out of control here.

Now what kind of god-damned more-on would sign up to a deal like that?

Do Australian companies have any water trading 'rights' in the Yangtse and thus in the power generating plants along it?

Try it some time..... let's put in a bid for water used by Chinese rice farmers, as a commodity to be bought and sold and incapable of being utilised unless bought, thus cutting out Chinese rice farmers who cannot afford to compete in a rapidly escalating market, and then we trade in it as a commodity going to the highest bidder thus causing further rises and further cutting out primary producers in China ... see how far you get.

One of them will hoe you to death... Hoe, Hoe, Hoe!

Some of you are abjectly dumb.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 13^th, 2020 at 1:52am:

Nice work when you can get it, sell them our water so they can sell it back to us without having to do a thing, they won't even have to come here and turn a tap on or off, a guaranteed income and if later down the track they decide they want more money to buy one of our utilities or whatever they will just put the price of our water up.

Short sighted politicians selling us out to the Chinese real fast.

Brian Ross wrote on May 12^th, 2020 at 8:31pm:



As if they had to take the water to China to take advantage of rules.



You are an ignorant, ridiculous fool, Bwian and an enemy of Australia.

You ALWAYS side with whoever is undermining Australia, politically, economically, culturally. You have never once posted anything FOR Australia, you ALWAYS side with Australia's enemies - BECAUSE you are one.

And all that because the nuns smacked your stupid, recalcitrant arse as a wee 10 year old Bolshie. You have never grown out of that, even now that you piss-soaked old mad aunt. 

Why don't you order an online counselling degree? Or a doctorate in fvkwittery - you should qualify for multiple awards of that just on the basis of the crap you have been posting here. Doktor Fvkwit - Ozpolitic Publicatons. Automatic.

Jasin wrote on May 14^th, 2020 at 7:03pm:



Er... they are not, actually.

Australia is a European designation. What did Aborigines call themselves before 1788? Not Australians.

Johnnie wrote on May 13^th, 2020 at 8:02am:


That is precisely what is wrong with water trading - if the buyer doesn't use it, it goes to the sea - and those who can't compete - the family farmers along the Murray etc - go to the wall when the water is flowing right past them.

It's a scheme designed to earn unearned profit for those on 'the inside' - again, who can just buy up 'licences', never use the water for growing anything, and then sell on at a profit to the next sucker, or sometimes even to the poor farmer who just went into mega-debt to 'buy' water 'rights' so his cattle and wheat could drink, and he might make it to next year by actually trying to produce something for the market - but he runs all the risks and the water buyers none.

Absolutely stinks to high heaven.

I'm amazed the farmers aren't literally up in arms.

Frank wrote on May 14^th, 2020 at 6:59pm:


And who has served time in the Australian Defence Forces, Soren?  You or me?  I have demonstrated my allegiance to Australia, what have you done to show you are an Australian again?  Oh, thats right, been a fool. You have criticise me, Asian Australians, Muslim Australians, every bloody immigrant Australians, except it seems those from Denmark.  Must be pretty good to criticise your fellow Australians, hey, Soren and all without any come back from them?   Big man, real big man.  I suppose your a real descendant of a berserker Viking, hey?  Yeah, sure.  I expect your bespectacled little trick cyclist hiding in your office all day long.  Too scared to look any real Multicultural Australians in the face.  I expect you get you secretary to fob them off with your pet excuses instead.

Run along, little man. You're a real WOFTAM.   

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Nope, I was never assaulted by Nuns.  They owed my mother too much 'cause she'd stand up to the local Priest on their behalf.  Old church heirachy, yeah, just like George Pell stood for.  You being a Lutheran wouldn'd understand that, now would you?  WOFTAM.   

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Oh, dearie me, Soren is playing again in his mud patch.  Tsk, tsk.   

.. and here I was trying to discuss water trading as some sort of market, when it's a natural event that should be utilised by a nation for its own benefit..... and it seems I missed the Big Show again.... we're all here to slag one another... not discuss the theft of water or national independence or trade wars or the false paradigm of 'private enterprise' that is destroying this once proud nation or sovereign rights of people and nation or the craven indifference of paid-off politicians......

**chews popcorn - heads to fridge for another beer - at least a beer never argues back or talks rubbish**

I've served this nation - in more than one category.... but I don't make a big deal out of it... that's simply not done, old boys.

**pops top of can**   TSK!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 12:53am:


Only fools drink the amber fluid from cans.  Glass all the way!   

Brian Ross wrote on May 15^th, 2020 at 12:35pm:


I only popped the top.... then poured lovingly into a glass.. a beer never talks back or complains... though they do hang off the arm of every loser in town as well as the better kind(s)....

It's right about Irish Tooheys,  brewing Tooheys Black Old Ale in a brewery in the area of present-day Darling Harbour. Old Black Ali drove wagon-loads of water to Chinatown where the triad wharfie gangs diluted it , stole the barley and sold Corona to the tax office.

Brian Ross wrote on May 16^th, 2020 at 12:57pm:


The tinny taste disappeared nearly 40 years ago when they stopped canning it in steel & used aluminium.

When you travel & camp & take all you need ... cans are lighter, don't smash & easier to dispose of .....

everyone collects the empties now.

Gnads wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 7:41am:



I don't agree ... you can still taste a slight difference when it's out of a can. It's much more noticable if you drink directly from the can. Pouring it into a glass helps a lot

Gnads wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 7:41am:


Except to connoisseurs.  Appears your sense of taste is in your boots, Gnads, like so much else about you.  I can taste the "tinny taste" even now. 

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I gave up camping when I resigned from the Army.  Five stars for me, only.  I expect the establishment I am staying at to have bottled beer or beer on tap. 

John Smith wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 10:05am:

The tinny taste changed from steel to aluminium, i quickly adapted to the new flavor, the 750ml cans of Fosters will always be sadly missed, a cold tinny straight down the neck is very refreshing and good on the palate.

There are many advantages of canned beer over glass.

A warm beer thrown into an ice slurry gets colder quicker and takes up less room than glass.

Brian Ross wrote on May 11^th, 2020 at 10:55pm:


Is it like your Austral/anglophobia?

There was no "hostility" toward China .... there was a request for an independent inquiry.

They are the ones sabre rattling & putting on trade embargoes & tariffs.

Calling foreign govts & politicians names.

If they have nothing to hide what's the problem?

They are overconfident arseholes now saying they will allow an investigation ... but not an independent one ..... one they will organise with the WHO ... who they have in their pocket.

You have a similar mentality to the CCP?

Gnads wrote on May 20^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

Gnads wrote on May 20^th, 2020 at 1:49pm:



Miriam Gargoyles - aint'cha sick of her???

I am.

Brian Ross wrote on May 17^th, 2020 at 1:01pm:


As your taste is in your backside.

Connoisseur ey? I thought you were something that started with "C" .....but with 7 less letters.

The Pretense of a Craft Beer Snob ey?

I drink beers from glass & cans.

A 30 pack of cans goes further & is cheaper than 24 of glass in smaller volume bottles.

I prefer draught beer but you can't take that with you.

Glass bottles or cans .... many pour both into a beer glass.  C'est la vie.

If the beer is icy cold it tastes good from either.

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 6:09pm:


Yes .... I don't think I'll watch the rest of the series.

She was an overbearing twat(like Bwian) on that group travel thing she did in India.

Brian Ross wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 8:41pm:



Yawny fvckwit is contributing to the discussion in positive ways, like he always does....

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 8:44pm:

Frank wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 8:50pm:

Brian just needs to drink more beer, we all do in these troubled times.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 22^nd, 2020 at 1:28am:

I didn't drink for a couple of days once, that was bad enough, the 750ml steel cans of Fosters was the best invention ever, the two can per man per day rule was never going to work. Nothing wrong with a bit of dope in moderation.

Gnads wrote on May 21^st, 2020 at 6:37pm:

Exactly. She IS bwian.

Pouting, twatish. Aunts.

Brian Ross wrote on May 23^rd, 2020 at 8:26pm:



There we were thinking you had something to say.