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Reply #120 - May 27th, 2020 at 8:40am
 
Call me a xenophobe if you wish - but no such deal should ever be entered into without a local dominant and controlling investment and management, and careful oversight, control and monitoring.

Trouble is - the plum jobs will go to 'mates' (again) as reward for services - fat jobs on fine salaries and perks paid in a tax haven for doing next to nothing going to 'retired' politicians who had aided and abetted this kind of takeover and shown their 'friendship' with Chinese government ... and none dare call it treason.  Wouldn't surprise me if some local newbie Chinese politician was slotted into some special spot for 'cultural reasons' and liaison... special ministership or something.

And so the steady erosion of a nation continues...

I'm happy to accept criticism for speaking out....... and I see the need for better control over such 'ventures' - retrospectively.  This is like France or Poland assisting Germany to build autobahns into their territory so as to facilitate troop movements...
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Reply #121 - May 27th, 2020 at 9:24am
 
"The US ambassador to Australia, Arthur Culvahouse, had to backtrack on the comments on Sunday, after it was pointed out that telecommunications projects in Australia are the responsibility of the federal government.

In addition to Victoria stating it has not and would not enter an agreement with China over a telecommunications project, federal legislation passed in 2018 giving the federal government veto power over telecommunications infrastructure partners effectively bans Chinese companies such as Huawei and ZTE from working on 5G and other similar projects in the future." ABC news.
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The Japanese Asahi water company is pumping Victoria dry. This allows Imperial Emperor tanks to invade to great victory , banzai for Nippon and rising sun.
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Reply #122 - May 27th, 2020 at 10:12am
 
chimera wrote on May 27th, 2020 at 9:24am:
"The US ambassador to Australia, Arthur Culvahouse, had to backtrack on the comments on Sunday, after it was pointed out that telecommunications projects in Australia are the responsibility of the federal government.

In addition to Victoria stating it has not and would not enter an agreement with China over a telecommunications project, federal legislation passed in 2018 giving the federal government veto power over telecommunications infrastructure partners effectively bans Chinese companies such as Huawei and ZTE from working on 5G and other similar projects in the future." ABC news.
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The Japanese Asahi water company is pumping Victoria dry. This allows Imperial Emperor tanks to invade to great victory , banzai for Nippon and rising sun.



This is about highways and waterways .. control of the seas and autobahns worldwide....  the US merely stated that in the event security was in question, they could and would close down affected networks..

Asahi numbah ten... economic warfare at its best ....  WWII never really ended - it was and remains a trade war over control of resources and trade in the Asian Pacific Basin - the only things that change are the antagonists... someone once labeled The Pacific War 'The Second Hundred Years War', and James Jones, in his book "The Thin Red Line", had his main protagonist reciting constantly:-  "Property, property - it's all about property".

Even then countless young men were dying over resource control, same as oil today in the ME.  We are somewhere in the middle of The Second Hundred Years War, with a new menace rising in the East.... now which way will the battle lines be drawn this time?

And why are our politicians all blind to this simple reality?  What good will their mighty pay-offs be once they are true vassals of a despotic foreign state and become the New Province of Austrochine?
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Reply #123 - May 27th, 2020 at 11:28am
 
Japanese-Chinese royal control of the communist Darwin highway brings Beijing's water-trucks into Tasmania and southern NZ glaciers. Without water , Melbourne burns in mega fires and will become the Tibetan army re-group and blitzkreig theatre for Belt Road River Sand Dunes.
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Reply #124 - May 27th, 2020 at 12:53pm
 
chimera wrote on May 27th, 2020 at 11:28am:
Japanese-Chinese royal control of the communist Darwin highway brings Beijing's water-trucks into Tasmania and southern NZ glaciers. Without water , Melbourne burns in mega fires and will become the Tibetan army re-group and blitzkreig theatre for Belt Road River Sand Dunes.



If only the Japanese hadn't murdered so many Chinese civilians etc... they might have been friends in this enterprise... now cunning Nippon sits back and waits for China to self-destruct from hubris, then will pick up the pieces and 'assist' China in re-building ...... cunning, yes?
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Reply #125 - May 27th, 2020 at 2:15pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 27th, 2020 at 7:51am:
Brian Ross wrote on May 26th, 2020 at 2:53pm:
Soren has always made this a "bitch fight", Graps.  He cannot bear that anybody disagrees with him.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


That's funny ... neither can you.


I can and do, Gnads.  Look at the thousands of posts here that I actually disagree with but don't bother posting about.  I let most of yours go through to the keeper as they aren't worth replying to.  Soren, OTOH never lets any get past him.  He cannot understand why anybody would stand up for Indigenous Australians, Immigrants, Muslims, anybody who he hates.  I seriously think he is mentally ill from his reactions to my posts.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #126 - May 27th, 2020 at 2:17pm
 
Gnads wrote on May 27th, 2020 at 8:01am:
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https://au.news.yahoo.com/china-blasts-australia-belt-and-road-initiative-025547...

"As China-Australia relations continue to remain in the spotlight, China’s foreign ministry spokesperson has lashed out at “sinister” Australian politicians, and questioned why Australia hasn’t stood up to the US over its “foreign interference”.

Zhao Lijian’s comments on Monday (local time) came after he was questioned on Victoria’s agreement with China for the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), and Peter Dutton’s comments calling the relationship a “propaganda exercise.”

The BRI is an estimated $1.5 trillion foreign and economic policy from the Chinese that will create maritime trade routes globally.

The home affairs minister previously said it was “gravely concerning” Victoria was the only state to come to such an agreement, with the Morrison government criticising the move which is deemed to have undermined Australian foreign policy.

Mr Morrison himself has urged states to "respect and recognise the role of the federal government in setting foreign policy."

However, at the time of signing a memorandum of understanding in 2018, Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews insisted the motivation behind the move was to provide “more jobs and more trade and investment for Victorians.”

Mr Zhao called out internal and external interference over the agreement, insisting the relationship was “completely reasonable, lawful and aboveboard”.

“The groundless accusations made by some Australian politicians are totally untenable,” he said.

“They only expose their negligence of the Australian people’s interests and their sinister intentions of damaging China-Australia relations.”

Mr Zhao called on Australian politicians to “discard ideological prejudices” to prevent Australia and China’s relationship deteriorating further.

China calls for Australia to stand up to ‘bizarre’ US move

Days earlier US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the US wouldn't hesitate to "simply disconnect" from Australia if Victoria's involvement in China's Belt and Road initiative threatens its telecommunications security.

And while the US ambassador to Australia, Arthur Culvahouse, stressed the US had confidence in Australia over the matter, Chinese state-media publication The Global Times warned Australia should be “well prepared to be abandoned at any time” by the US.

“Obviously, what is on the mind of Pompeo and his likes is only US self-interests, and Washington is not going to foot the bill for the lost Australian jobs,” the Chinese mouthpiece publication wrote.

“Australia is already in a passive position in the face of wavering US policy. Canberra is forced to pick a side between Beijing and the Washington even when it is loath to jeopardise its relationship with China.”

Speaking on Monday, Mr Zhao hit out at the US over its interference in the matter, and urged Australia to stand up for itself.

“The threat from American politicians is even more bizarre,” he said.

“Some politicians in Australia have been saying all day long that they oppose "foreign interference" and "Chinese coercion".

“Why don't they stand up against the US? This has once again exposed the deep-rooted ideological bias and double standards of some people on the Australian side.”



Sounds like Oz is a puppet state of China now - and is told to stand up against its own allies... kinda makes you feel like Poland in 1939 or Czechoslovakia in 1938, don' it?


I thought we were standing up for ourselves?...

the Chinese want Aust to standup to the US but not to them....

economic blackmail.

The Morriscum Govt is right on one thing ......

state govts. do not set our Foreign Policy

and Daniel Andrews had no business/right signing up to the Chinese Belt & Road Initiative.


Actually he does as the Premier of the Sovereign State under our Constitution.   It is why the various states have independent commissioners overseas in various places.  You obviously need to learn some Constitutional Law, Gnads.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #127 - May 27th, 2020 at 3:16pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 27th, 2020 at 12:53pm:
... now cunning Nippon sits back and waits for China to self-destruct from hubris, then will pick up the pieces and 'assist' China in re-building ...... cunning, yes?


What? Waterless Australia is a combined Beijing-Tokyo Axis pincer move. China takes Pilbara and Nips get Artesian Basin.  That way they share the Reef for concrete.  Coca Cola is where the rot sets in.
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Reply #128 - May 27th, 2020 at 3:32pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on May 27th, 2020 at 2:17pm:
Actually he does as the Premier of the Sovereign State under our Constitution.   It is why the various states have independent commissioners overseas in various places. 


Dictator Andrews sends his Royal Melbourne Navy in the Battle of the Murray Water-Bottles. Scomo has s 51 which is power of pork and Vic. can't stop the barrels , bushfires or Belt Road to Beijing except that Dictator Gladys closed the border.
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