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Jury is still out, said a dimwit
May 8th, 2020 at 3:24pm
 
Globe is warming, Booby! Warming not cooling. Look:

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Reply #1 - May 8th, 2020 at 3:29pm
 
Booby wouldnt have a clue!

Only interested in gay stuff!

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Reply #2 - May 8th, 2020 at 3:31pm
 
Last month was as hot as April 2016. 2016 was a super El Nino year showing just how much temperatures have risen. The El Nino cycle is starting to ramp up making 2020 80% likely to be the hottest year on record.

The jury is out and has not sat since the late 1940s. At that time studies for the US Navy & Air Force showed AGW was indeed real.

In the 1960s-1970s there was a media beat up, and some 3rd rate scientists, about a coming ice age. Clean Air Acts removed the sulphate emissions and AGW, no longer masked, started raising temperatures again.

Now we are running into problems from AGW: less nutritious crops, sea level rise worsening floods, cities becoming unbearable etc. Environment should be about discussing these issues not the spiel of a grifter.
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Reply #3 - May 8th, 2020 at 3:35pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on May 8th, 2020 at 3:29pm:
Booby wouldnt have a clue!

Only interested in gay stuff!

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Indeed.

You have a PM, Petticoat.
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Reply #4 - May 8th, 2020 at 3:44pm
 
The World is also becoming Wetter.
Our recent Drought was but a very short one.
It flooded in the Riverina back in 2011 with bumper rains for many years after.
It was also more intense.
In fact, you'll find that the fluctuations of weather patterns, with more Sandstorms, Dust storms, Cyclones, Hurricans, Tornados, Droughts, Floods, Earthquakes, Volcanos (that cool the earth down with their ash in the atmosphere) and many more 'extreme' levels of intensity.
Stephen Donaldson summed it up as Earth Bane and that was in the 70's.

Science's most predictable answer to this is for everyone to invest in a Geosphere ruled and run by them. They get to play God with the world. They break the Horse and throw a Saddle on it.
...apparently NASA has discovered a far distant 'habitable zone' planet with what looks like a 'Geo-Sphere' around it.

That Geosphere can have Ronny Reagan's Star Wars toys on it too.  Wink Where the only escape is to live undergroundin the caves of steel.
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Reply #5 - May 8th, 2020 at 3:50pm
 
You have less brains than Booby and I did not think that was possible!
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Reply #6 - May 8th, 2020 at 3:54pm
 
This is a profoundly interesting graph:

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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2020 at 4:00pm
 
That the chart shows it is hotter now than at any time in the Holocene Optimum is obvious and uninteresting. We have warmed 1.3°C since 1880 after all.

But we see the Milankovitch cycle—insolation north of 65°N—turning down and temperatures with it—but the temperature drop is a lot less steep than the Cycle.

We see the start of cities—and agriculture—and the consequent increase in atmospheric CO2. we see how that slows the Milankovitch Cycle cooling.

We see the Industrial Revolution, the very fast increase in atmospheric CO2—and rapidly rising temperatures that since the late 20th century are higher than at any time in the last 8000 years.
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Reply #8 - May 9th, 2020 at 7:29am
 
Let us look in a bit more detail at temperatures:

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Reply #9 - May 9th, 2020 at 7:39am
 
Climate models work well, you would have to say.

The first 300 years are in the so-called Little Ice Age (it was not an ice age at all) and the temperature anomaly was at about 0°C.

The bit on the right is the 20th and early 21st centuries. The last temperature anomaly was a bit over 1°C. In 2020 the anomaly is 1.3°C higher than in the late nineteenth century.

We would have to lose all that 1.3°C of warming, and more, to get to LIA conditions. Not very likely, is it? Now you might be asking: how much did temperatures decline from the Medieval Warm Period to the LIA? The answer: not very much at all:

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Reply #10 - May 9th, 2020 at 7:42am
 
We can see that the temperature drop was less than 0.5°C—not the 1.3°C plus that would be needed now. A new LIA now is extremely improbable.

The deepest part of the LIA was during the Maunder Minimum late 17th to early 18th century. You are hard put to see the extra cooling. (The MWP and LIA were not synchronous world wide, the LIA affected mainly the northern hemisphere.

The LIA started at the end of the fourteenth century, nearly 300 years before the Maunder Minimum. The clear message from this is: grand solar minima do not start Little Ice Ages. Gone now is all the crap Dubyne has poured into Booby’s pretty little head. Utter nonsense about a LIA now. The cooling from a GSM is just not enough to start a LIA and that is that.

With CO2 at 418ppm and rising there is no chance of a LIA happening now short of a major meteorite slamming into the Earth. Certainly not due to a GSM that is not happening anyway:

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Reply #11 - May 9th, 2020 at 12:06pm
 
I'm just waiting for lee to see this thread
He's been feeling pretty irrelevant lately without his opportunities to defend his buddies in the coal industry.
Bobby is just stupid but lee is deliberately deceitful
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Reply #12 - May 9th, 2020 at 12:53pm
 
Lee acts to shut down debate on AGW and related issues. I think he feels threatened by AGW and by closing threads down he can return to pretending it is not happening. Booby doesn’t realise lee is throttling the life out of Menvironment (the life Booby hasn’t throttled out of it.)
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