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Reply #1 - May 7th, 2020 at 10:57am
 
The prick did nothing when he received a complain about a pedo priest.

His pathetic excuse for not acting was just that, an excuse for the benefit of the RC.


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Royal commission finds Cardinal George Pell should have done more to remove paedophile priest

Cardinal George Pell should have advised senior Catholic authorities to remove a paedophile priest in 1989, the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse has found.

In its unredacted reports tabled by the Federal Government this morning, the commission found that Cardinal Pell, who was then an auxiliary bishop in Melbourne, should have advocated for Father Peter Searson to be removed.

Father Searson died in 2009 without facing charges, but the commission heard he abused children in parishes and schools across three districts over more than a decade.

Cardinal Pell told the inquiry he was handed a list of grievances and allegations about Father Searson in 1989, but believed the Catholic Education Office and the then-archbishop of Melbourne, Frank Little, were handling the allegations levelled against the priest, and did not think it was his place to investigate them.

However the commission found as an auxilliary bishop at the time, Cardinal Pell should have taken action.

"It was incumbent on Bishop Pell, as an Auxiliary Bishop with responsibilities for the welfare of the children in the Catholic community of his region, to take such action as he could to advocate that Father Searson be removed or suspended or, at least, that a thorough investigation be undertaken of the allegations," the commission said.

Cardinal Pell's evidence was that he could not recall recommending a particular course of action to the Archbishop. He conceded that, in retrospect, he might have been 'a bit more pushy' with all of the parties involved.

"We do not accept any qualification that this conclusion is only appreciable in retrospect.

"On the basis of what was known to Bishop Pell in 1989, it ought to have been obvious to him at the time. He should have advised the Archbishop to remove Father Searson and he did not do so."

The commission's findings concerning the Melbourne and Ballarat dioceses were heavily redacted in its final 2017 report in order to avoid prejudicing the trial of Cardinal Pell, who had been charged with child sexual abuse.

But after his unanimous High Court acquittal in April, the way was cleared for the release of the unredacted findings.




https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-07/royal-commission-findings-on-cardinal-geo...
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Reply #2 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:04pm
 
No wonder he didn't go on the stand at this trial. Seems like he would have been totally unbelievable
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Reply #3 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:10pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:04pm:
No wonder he didn't go on the stand at this trial. Seems like he would have been totally unbelievable


The just-released stuff would have played no part of the decision not to give evidence at the Trial.  There was zero need for him to get in the Box.  His side of the story had already been presented to the Jury via the evidence of the Coppers who interviewed him.

Had he got in the Box, questions unrelated to the actual charges would have been ruled out of order.
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Reply #4 - May 7th, 2020 at 1:19pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:04pm:
No wonder he didn't go on the stand at this trial. Seems like he would have been totally unbelievable


The just-released stuff would have played no part of the decision not to give evidence at the Trial.  There was zero need for him to get in the Box.  His side of the story had already been presented to the Jury via the evidence of the Coppers who interviewed him.

Had he got in the Box, questions unrelated to the actual charges would have been ruled out of order.




Thanks, that wasn't my point.
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Reply #5 - May 7th, 2020 at 2:01pm
 
Aussie wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:04pm:
No wonder he didn't go on the stand at this trial. Seems like he would have been totally unbelievable


The just-released stuff would have played no part of the decision not to give evidence at the Trial.  There was zero need for him to get in the Box.  His side of the story had already been presented to the Jury via the evidence of the Coppers who interviewed him.

Had he got in the Box, questions unrelated to the actual charges would have been ruled out of order.


It may have also changed the order for the final address.
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Reply #6 - May 7th, 2020 at 2:10pm
 
crocodile wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 2:01pm:
Aussie wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:10pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 7th, 2020 at 1:04pm:
No wonder he didn't go on the stand at this trial. Seems like he would have been totally unbelievable


The just-released stuff would have played no part of the decision not to give evidence at the Trial.  There was zero need for him to get in the Box.  His side of the story had already been presented to the Jury via the evidence of the Coppers who interviewed him.

Had he got in the Box, questions unrelated to the actual charges would have been ruled out of order.


It may have also changed the order for the final address.


Not in this case, as he did call other witnesses.
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Reply #7 - May 8th, 2020 at 4:54am
 
Its still a witch hunt since ALL the preachers etc knew about it and none of them did anything

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Reply #8 - May 8th, 2020 at 11:38am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 8th, 2020 at 4:54am:
Its still a witch hunt since ALL the preachers etc knew about it and none of them did anything

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Back in 1989 Pell was a mere Auxiliary bishop. Hardly a mightily senior position. Given what usually happens to whistle blowers it's not that hard to keep one's mouth shut.

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Reply #9 - May 8th, 2020 at 11:56am
 
crocodile wrote on May 8th, 2020 at 11:38am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 8th, 2020 at 4:54am:
Its still a witch hunt since ALL the preachers etc knew about it and none of them did anything

Spot

Back in 1989 Pell was a mere Auxiliary bishop. Hardly a mightily senior position. Given what usually happens to whistle blowers it's not that hard to keep one's mouth shut.





From what I've read, the Bishop of Ballarat had a council about these matters which Pell sat on, so the suggestion was that Pell had intimate knowledge of the plan to move Ridsdale about
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Reply #10 - May 8th, 2020 at 12:07pm
 
Hhhmmmm

"Cardinal George Pell says he is surprised the Royal Commission found he was aware of children being sexually abused by priests.

'The Royal Commission found the Cardinal knew of offending against children in the Ballarat diocese in the 1970s and 1980s.

The commission also found that when he was an auxiliary bishop in Melbourne he should have taken action to remove a violent priest who was allegedly abusing children.

But Cardinal Pell says the views "are not supported by evidence".
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Reply #11 - May 8th, 2020 at 12:31pm
 
Pell agreed he was told of a vague allegation of sexual misconduct.

"The fact that he was informed of it in a 'non-specific' way does not reduce the seriousness of the allegation," the report says, adding that he "ought to have inquired further" about the exact nature of the allegation.

"If the information provided to Bishop Pell was not sufficiently specific, he ought to have requested a fuller explanation …"

The Commission also refused to believe Pell was in the dark about the "real truth" of why a delegation of staff from Holy Family Doveton went with a log of incidents to warn the-then Auxiliary Bishop about Searson's "harassment of children".

"In our view, any of those matters ought to have prompted investigation and action," the Commissioners found.

"Each of those events carries an implication of sexual misconduct. They are all improper …

"Bishop Pell was in a senior position … The staff came as a delegation to him as an Auxiliary Bishop to complain about their employer."

Apart from the concerns about children, the teachers said "Father Searson was obstructive and confrontational with staff", prompting Pell to frame the meeting as more of an HR complaint.

But, the Commissioners found, "[Searson] had displayed cruelty to an animal in front of children and shown them a dead body in a coffin. There was a suggestion of sexual impropriety in that Father Searson was using the boys' toilets unnecessarily, even if he had offered an explanation for that conduct.

"[One delegate] told Bishop Pell that Father Searson was mentally unwell and that something needed to be done. These matters, in combination with the prior allegation of sexual misconduct, ought to have indicated to Bishop Pell that Father Searson needed to be stood down."

George Pell oversaw Searson's ultimate removal from Holy Family Doveton, but that was 12 years after the school first became aware he was offending. The delegation from the school representatives to Pell as Auxiliary Bishop was five years into the 12.


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Reply #12 - May 8th, 2020 at 12:36pm
 
Back inthe 70s and 80s the police didnt give a crap and there wasnt anything he could have done really - especially if ppl senior to him didnt want anything done

i dont like sounding like i am defending him but it really is a witch hunt

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