https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-30/china-in-antarctica-inspection-regime/10858486?nw=0

"China’s most audaciously located station — at the high point of Antarctica’s vast ice sheet at the heart of Australian Antarctic Territory — has seen 10 summers.

This is a decade marked by incredible expansion of Chinese activity. Yet this station, as well as one another Chinese base within Australia’s claim, have never been inspected.

Many are saying it’s time for a check-up."

We are surrounded, we know they want to be the global naval super power, they are building islands 3.5hrs from us, they control the port of Darwin, they are trying to muscle in on the port of Hobart, through a crazy immigration system its just a sea of Asians now in our cities buying all of our property resources everything, its an invasion from within.

There should be a thorough investigation into not just their sus bat virus.

Jasin wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 9:27pm:

Dirty filthy rotten underhanded self preserving short sighted politically correct mongrels.

Johnnie wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 12:25am:


So right.... can't challenge one thing you say.

Johnnie wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 12:25am:


My sentiments exactly although I would toss in a hypocritical and note they are all the same.

Some worse than others but basically all the same.

It's necessary when 96% of the media is a false and nasty narrative against him.

Yet another complicated territorial situation being 'watered' down by tabloid newspaper for the commoners to consume.  Lets begin...

1. The initial claim on these Antartica territory was by the United Kingdom in 1841, and later on transferred to Australia.   In 1961, the Antarctic treaty came into force through UN.  And article 4 specifically deal with territorial claims.

Article IV

    1. Nothing contained in the present treaty shall be interpreted as:

        (a) a renunciation by any Contracting Party of previously asserted rights of or claims to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica;

        (b) a renunciation or diminution by any Contracting Party of any basis of claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica which it may have whether as a result of its activities or those of its nationals in Antarctica, or otherwise;

        (c) prejudicing the position of any Contracting Party as regards its recognition or non-recognition of any other States right of or claim or basis of claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica.

    2. No acts or activities taking place while the present treaty is in force shall constitute a basis for asserting, supporting or denying a claim to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica or create any rights of sovereignty in Antarctica. No new claim, or enlargement of an existing claim, to territorial sovereignty in Antarctica shall be asserted while the present treaty is in force.

So in a nut shell, the article pretty much said you can claim your land, may be, but you cant prohibit others from claiming land.   As a result, only four countries in the world recognized Australia's claim in Antartica, and these are: New Zealand, United Kingdom, France and Norway.   The rest of the world does not.  So if you have any notion that the Chinese is building on 'our' land, then.. think again. 

Currently there are total of 8 stations in the Australian antarctic territory.  Australia has 3 stations (Mawson, Davis, Casey), Russia has 3 (Mirny, Vostok, progress station), Romania has 1, France/Italy has 1, and China 1 (Zhongshan).  So where is the outrage against Russia and Romania?

What a load of faux outrage.  Have you ever visited Antarctica?  No, I didn't think so.  Few Australians have.  I have.  Twice.   China is welcome to their base in the frozen continent.  They won't be attempting anything other than research.

As for China refusing to obey treaties.  Actually it does.  Even better than Australia.  The South China Sea is an effort to improve their defences against encroaching American forces.   The PRC has long standing, dating back to the days of the Chinese Empire of seeking to control events on it's periphery.  The Korean War was one aspect of that as was the Chinese border dispute with the fUSSR and invasion of Vietnam.  They don't like hostile forces on their borders.

The US Navy is an overly aggressive force.  It used to upset the fUSSR with numerous border incursions.  It still sails it's submarines into Russian waters.  It still carries out similar antics against the PRC.  The PRC has attempted to do something about that by building islands.  Get the US to behave and the PRC will behave.  QED.   

Brian Ross wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:17pm:

Good one, so China goes against international laws to teach the US a lesson and your fine with that.

China can POQ out of Antarctica, they are not to be trusted.

Hey, you been everywhere man!

Brian Ross wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 7:18pm:

Building islands in the South China sea clearly for military might  is a clear breach of international law, unless you think they built them for peaceful purposes.

AiA wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 9:57pm:

Pluto will not be spared.

AiA wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 10:10pm:

Probably not, we are all in this together though, you me the solar system the universe everything

AiA wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 10:26pm:

That's a relief, now go look at the big picture like China surrounding us.

Brian Ross wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 10:42pm:

Are you serious, i actually think you are, well blow those islands right out of the sea,, or let them build more islands.

Johnnie wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 12:33pm:


First of all, as my post states clearly, only four other countries in the world recognizes Australia's claim to the territory.  Now, if today, Australia or even UK is the Empire it was 200 years ago, then, this should not be a problem.  The world is alot different now.   Without the aid of USA (america first), and the sleek worded article 4. We can protest all we like, and there is nothing we can do about it.   The old terra nullis of European era is well and truly behind us. 

As to the south China sea.  These issues are again much more complicated, and this dates back to world war 2 after Japanese occupation.  Suffice to say that we all made to believe China is the only aggressor, but the actually territory is in dispute by many countries around the region, not only against China, but also against each other.  You need to read more into that. 

Brian Ross wrote on May 4^th, 2020 at 1:21pm:

What a sh!thead you are, Bwian. A true Chinese propagandist:



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NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 29th, 2020 at 11:34pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Apr 29th, 2020 at 10:11pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2020 at 8:35pm:
China  - the CCP - will never live it down.

A blind eye has been turned to their lying, corrupt ways while things were going OK. Now that they made world grind to a halt - it will never be forgiven or forgotten. The bully has been caught out and there is no way he can spend hiss way out of this by bribing poor countries.

China is f***d. Their word is worthless.

Chinese culture, BTW, is also f***d - all this 'bat heart is good for you in Traditional Chinese medicine' crap is discredited. They are shown to be a bunch of un-reconstructed superstitious ijits - add Communist dictatorial attitude to their own people and the world - and you have China in the 21st century: superstitious bullies.


They said the same thing about Tienanmen Square...

Again... Tienanmen Square did not plunge the world into a global crisis...

To date, most countries will, or are moving to exit from, or limit their exposure to, China economically...

Demands for an independent inquiry into the virus's origin terrifies the CCP (for obvious reasons)... And why? If they're telling us the truth, as best they can, then an independent inquiry will confirm (or largely confirm) what the CCP has been telling us...

Likely an independent inquiry would report a situation exponentially worse than we can imagine...


If it reveals anything.  You forget, the PRC is a separate, independent, sovereign state.  It also has a population equaled by only one other nation.  Anything the world does, is immaterial to the PRC.  It might hurt it in the short term but over time, the PRC will survive.

However this has no bearing really on the question of Tibet.  This thread has, IMO run it's course.  I will be locking it.

Spoken like a Chinese propagandists - opposing Chinese lies and misinformation is 'mud and xenophobia and wacisms' and whatever other BS buzz word you can come up with.

But no reasoned argument - because neither you nor the Chinese have any. Over the top mindless rhetoric and idiotic bluster is what you share with the Chinese.

If the Chinese really believed their own line - that the virus was brought to China by Americans - they would be supporting an investigation into the source and spread of the virus wholeheartedly.   But they are lying, like you, and they talk about 'mud' when caught out lying.

Frank wrote on May 5^th, 2020 at 5:56pm:


Actually engaging in pointless ad hominem debate is a waste of time, Soren.  China deserves to be criticised for many things but your attitude is rooted in your Sinophobia, rather than reality. 

Brian Ross wrote on May 5^th, 2020 at 7:52pm:


another prefixed "phobia".

Anyone who disagrees with your BS is a phobe of some sort.

You pithy little person.

Gnads wrote on May 7^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:


Spoken by another Siniphobe... 

Gnads wrote on May 9^th, 2020 at 10:25am:




Yeah, yeah, whatever you say.  Seems strange to call yourself a "wanker" though.

Gnads wrote on May 9^th, 2020 at 7:22pm:




Yeah, yeah, whatever you say.   

Brian Ross wrote on May 7^th, 2020 at 12:50pm:


Sinophobia? I am not so sure.

The governments of China and Russia recognize that they are heirs to civilization-states and the governments of both those countries are aggressively promoting the interests of Russosphere and Sinosphere.

But English-speakers are claimed to be "racists" when they make that same distinction, that English-speaking nations share a common identity and values.