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Reply #150 - Jul 9th, 2020 at 9:12pm
 
OCLA Asks WHO to Retract Recommendation Advising Use of Face Masks in General Population


OCLA (Ontario Civil Liberties Association) has sent a letter (en français ici) to the Director General  of the World Health Organization, Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, asking him to retract the WHO’s recommendation advising the use of face masks in the general population to prevent COVID-19 transmission.

The letter criticizes the lack of a valid scientific basis for the WHO’s recommendation and expresses OCLA’s concerns about serious harms to individuals and societies stemming from the recommendation and from government impositions of face masks on the general public.

The letter includes statements such as:

    “… the WHO cannot collect and rely on potentially biased studies to make recommendations that can have devastating effects (see below) on the lives of literally billions. Rather, the WHO must apply a stringent standards threshold, and accept only randomized controlled trials with verified outcomes. In this application, the mere fact that several such quality studies have not ever confirmed the positive effects reported in bias-susceptible reports should be a red flag.”

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    “It is an unjustified authoritarian imposition, and a fundamental indignity, to have the State impose its evaluation of risk on the individual, one which has no basis in science, and which is smaller than a multitude of risks that are both common and often created or condoned by the State.”

A copy of the letter is posted here and embedded below.

Une traduction en français de la lettre est disponible ici.

Related: Dr. John H. Murphy’s Letter to the Editor of 2 June 2020, submitted to the WHO Bulletin (the WHO refused to publish Dr. Murphy’s letter)

http://ocla.ca/ocla-letter-who/

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And a reminder:

"We do not recommend requiring the general public who do not have symptoms of COVID-19-like illness to routinely wear cloth or surgical masks" - Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-1...

And this from the prestigious New England Journal of Medicine on May 21, 2020:

"We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic."

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?query=TOC


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Reply #151 - Jul 10th, 2020 at 4:10pm
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 9th, 2020 at 8:32pm:
A highly respected doctor and current Minnesota State Senator has been speaking out about his concern over the validity of Covid death certificates... expressing concern that people who did not die of Covid are being counted as Covid deaths, a practice which falsely inflates mortality rates and irresponsibly contributes to the climate of fear around the disease.

Jensen notes:

In terms of the death certificates, on April 3rd I got an email from the Department of Health that said very clearly that we should report Covid-19 on death certificates if it is assumed to have caused or contributed. Well, that’s not how we do death certificates. The official ICD-10 coding for April 1st, 2020 through September 30th, 2020, during the timeframe in question says this: If the provider documents suspected, possible, probable, or inconclusive Covid-19, do not assign. Use 07.1, which is Covid-19 disease. It says, assign a code explaining the reason for the encounter, such as fever, or cough, or shortness of breath.

I’ve got the Department of Health in Illinois, where one of the directors says that just because we put Covid-10 down on the death certificate as cause of death, that doesn’t mean that the patient died of Covid-19. She said that.
~Dr. Scott Jensen

https://www.naturalblaze.com/2020/07/senator-and-former-minnesota-family-doctor-...



So why have the health systems of New York, Italy, UK, France, Spain, Brazil, India and Mexico been overwhelmed at various times during the pandemic?
Why have so many more people died worldwide than for the same time last year?

You are doing the typical conspiracy theorist practice of "anomaly hunting"
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Reply #152 - Jul 10th, 2020 at 10:14pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 10th, 2020 at 4:10pm:
So why have the health systems of New York, Italy, UK, France, Spain, Brazil, India and Mexico been overwhelmed at various times during the pandemic?


You mean like the photos of ICUs in New York and Italy reported by the fakenews MSM that turned out to be the very same photo?



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Reply #153 - Jul 11th, 2020 at 8:09am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 10th, 2020 at 10:14pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 10th, 2020 at 4:10pm:
So why have the health systems of New York, Italy, UK, France, Spain, Brazil, India and Mexico been overwhelmed at various times during the pandemic?


You mean like the photos of ICUs in New York and Italy reported by the fakenews MSM that turned out to be the very same photo?





Florida is the hottest spot in the US for covid right now. I have a family member living there who has the virus and has had to go.to hospital because of the severity of their symptoms.

There is no room for them, they're on a bed in a hallway.

So I looked up the admission rates. If you want an idea what it's like I suggest you do the same.
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Reply #154 - Jul 11th, 2020 at 10:30pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 11th, 2020 at 8:09am:
Florida is the hottest spot in the US for covid right now. I have a family member living there who has the virus and has had to go.to hospital because of the severity of their symptoms.

There is no room for them, they're on a bed in a hallway.

So I looked up the admission rates. If you want an idea what it's like I suggest you do the same.


If hospitals are falsifying death certificates they're probably doing the same with admission rates.

Or the corrupt lying MSM is doing it:

CBS admits to using footage from Italy in NYC coronavirus report

CBS News has admitted that alarming footage of an overflowing ward used during a report on the coronavirus crisis in Big Apple hospitals was actually shot in Italy.

CBS’ breakfast show, “This Morning,” used the footage of a packed ward last Wednesday just after saying the pandemic’s epicenter was “found right here” in New York.

The same footage had been aired earlier by Sky News — which correctly identified it as one of Europe’s “most hard-hit” hospitals located in Bergamo, Lombardy.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/01/cbs-admits-to-using-footage-from-italy-in-report-a... 


A media organization inviting a Democratic governor to criticize federal action on virus testing is not news. But CBS now says that its footage purporting to show a line of waiting patients was not legitimate. The television network is blaming a Michigan health facility.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cbs-says-fake-news-wasnt-theirs-11588789238


The evolving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID‐19) pandemic1 is certainly cause for concern. Proper communication and optimal decision‐making are an ongoing challenge, as data evolve. The challenge is compounded, however, by exaggerated information. This can lead to inappropriate actions. It is important to differentiate promptly the true epidemic from an epidemic of false claims and potentially harmful actions...

As outlined below, for the main features of the epidemic and the response to it, circulating estimates are often exaggerated, even when they come from otherwise excellent scientists.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eci.13222

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Reply #155 - Jul 12th, 2020 at 1:09am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2020 at 10:30pm:
If hospitals are falsifying death certificates they're probably doing the same with admission rates.


Well they're not, so they aren't...

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Reply #156 - Jul 12th, 2020 at 1:31am
 
Fake Pandemic Numbers are not new. We can all see that lies coming.
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Reply #157 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 1:41am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 12th, 2020 at 1:09am:
Well they're not, so they aren't...


They are.

Dr. Dan Erickson: ER doctors now say,  you know, when we're writing the death report, we're being pressured to add covid - why is that? Why are we being pressured to add covid, to maybe increase the numbers? I think so ... (my colleagues) say we are being pressured to add covid to the diagnostic list when we think it has nothing to do with the actual cause of death. The actual cause of death was not covid.


Dr. Jensen stated (above link):

"Do we think it’s okay for physicians to certify death certificates that someone died of Covid-19 even if there was never a Covid-19 positive test obtained? Even if there was never a Covid-19 test done? Even if a Covid-19 test hadn’t even been considered?"

And:

A high-profile European pathologist is reporting that he and his colleagues across Europe have not found any evidence of any deaths from the novel coronavirus on that continent.

Dr. Stoian Alexov called the World Health Organization (WHO) a “criminal medical organization” for creating worldwide fear and chaos without providing objectively verifiable proof of a pandemic.

Another stunning revelation from Bulgarian Pathology Association (BPA) president Dr. Alexov is that he believes it’s currently “impossible” to create a vaccine against the virus.

He also revealed that European pathologists haven’t identified any antibodies that are specific for SARS-CoV-2.

These stunning statements raise major questions, including about officials’ and scientists’ claims regarding the many vaccines they’re rushing into clinical trials around the world.

They also raise doubt about the veracity of claims of discovery of anti-novel-coronavirus antibodies (which are beginning to be used to treat patients).

Novel-coronavirus-specific antibodies are supposedly the basis for the expensive serology test kits being used in many countries (some of which have been found to be unacceptably inaccurate).

And they’re purportedly key to the immunity certificates coveted by Bill Gates that are about to go into widespread use — in the form of the COVI-PASS — in 15 countries including the UK, US, and Canada.

Dr. Alexov made his jaw-dropping observations in a video interview summarizing the consensus of participants in a May 8, 2020, European Society of Pathology (ESP) webinar on COVID-19.

The May 13 video interview of Dr. Alexov was conducted by Dr. Stoycho Katsarov, chair of the Center for Protection of Citizens’ Rights in Sofia and a former Bulgarian deputy minister of health. The video is on the BPA’s website, which also highlights some of Dr. Alexov’s main points.

We asked a native Bulgarian speaker with a science background to orally translate the video interview into English. We then transcribed her translation. The video is here and our English transcript is here.

Among the major bombshells Dr. Alexov dropped is that the leaders of the May 8 ESP webinar said no novel-coronavirus-specific antibodies have been found.

The body forms antibodies specific to pathogens it encounters. These specific antibodies are known as monoclonal antibodies and are a key tool in pathology. This is done via immunohistochemistry, which involves tagging antibodies with colours and then coating the biopsy- or autopsy-tissue slides with them. After giving the antibodies time to bind to the pathogens they’re specific for, the pathologists can look at the slides under a microscope and see the specific places where the coloured antibodies — and therefore the pathogens they’re bound to – are located.

Therefore, in the absence of monoclonal antibodies to the novel coronavirus, pathologists cannot verify whether SARS-CoV-2 is present in the body, or whether the diseases and deaths attributed to it indeed were caused by the virus rather than by something else...

Also, Dr. Alexov has an unimpugnable record and reputation. He’s been a physician for 30 years. He’s president of the BPA, a member of the ESP’s Advisory Board and head of the histopathology department at the Oncology Hospital in the Bulgarian capital of Sofia.

On top of that, there’s other support for what Dr. Alexov is saying.

For example, the director of the Institute of Forensic Medicine at the University Medical Center Hamburg-Eppendorf in Germany said in media interviews that there’s a striking dearth of solid evidence for COVID-19’s lethality.

“COVID-19 is a fatal disease only in exceptional cases, but in most cases it is a predominantly harmless viral infection,” Dr. Klaus Püschel told a German paper in April. Adding in another interview:

In quite a few cases, we have also found that the current corona infection has nothing whatsoever to do with the fatal outcome because other causes of death are present, for example, a brain hemorrhage or a heart attack […] [COVID-19 is] not particularly dangerous viral disease […] All speculation about individual deaths that have not been expertly examined only fuel anxiety.”

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https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/02/no-one-has-died-from-the-coronavirus-preside...

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Reply #158 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 7:17am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 11th, 2020 at 10:30pm:
If hospitals are falsifying death certificates they're probably doing the same with admission rates.

Or the corrupt lying MSM is doing it:



If you need to rely on a massive world wide conspiracy to support your premise then you have lost the argument
You are also delusional
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Reply #159 - Jul 15th, 2020 at 9:31pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 7:17am:
If you need to rely on a massive world wide conspiracy to support your premise then you have lost the argument
You are also delusional


What's this then?

Fox News local stations appear to still do real reporting, and this is one such report. They clearly showed the clinics in Florida were exploding the covid stats through the roof by more than 10X and demanded explanations for that. The big surprise here is that Fox reported that accurately:

UPDATE: @orlandohealth
says they do not know how their positivity rate number appeared wrong on the @HealthyFla
website. Orlando Health's rate for positive test results is 9.4%.  #FOX35 @fox35orlando
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ERRORS FOUND: Florida's positivity rate is skewed. #FOX35 went through #COVID19 test reports & found many clinics reporting 100% positivity. @orlandohealth admits their number is wrong, saying it shows 98% positive, but it's actually 9.4%. @fox35orlando

https://twitter.com/hashtag/FOX35?src=hashtag_click

The report also showed that the Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent.

https://fox35orlando.com/news/orlando-health-confirms-state-covid-19-report-has-...


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Reply #160 - Jul 16th, 2020 at 7:49am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 9:31pm:
What's this then?

Fox News local stations appear to still do real reporting, and this is one such report. They clearly showed the clinics in Florida were exploding the covid stats through the roof by more than 10X and demanded explanations for that. The big surprise here is that Fox reported that accurately:



From your own link

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They confirmed that although private and public laboratories are required to report positive and negative results to the state immediately, some have not. Specifically, they said that some smaller, private labs were not reporting negative test result data to the state.


So the number of positive results is accurate. It's just that some of them are not reporting the negative results, that's the only reason that the positivity rate us skewed
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Reply #161 - Jul 17th, 2020 at 12:34am
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 16th, 2020 at 7:49am:
So the number of positive results is accurate. It's just that some of them are not reporting the negative results, that's the only reason that the positivity rate us skewed


Only in the smaller, private labs: "Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent."

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 7:17am:
a massive world wide conspiracy


How else to describe the failure of the MSM all around the world to report on a four-year study, peer reviewed and all, by an engineering team at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, that showed World Trade Center Building 7 did not collapse due to fire? The collapse was instead caused by a near simultaneous failure of every column in the building.  By near simultaneous they mean a gap of one point three seconds.  IOW, it was only 1.3 seconds away from a total simultaneous failure of every column in the building.

The team, led by Prof. J. Leroy Hulsey, did not go further and investigate what did cause this near simultaneous failure, but what else could have caused it but explosives?

This is huge news! 

On top of that, a peer review which upheld these findings and conclusions makes it even more newsworthy!

Yet there's been hardly a murmur from the MSM or the big news agencies anywhere in the world on this more than breaking news. That's proof of a massive world wide conspiracy right there.

And how convenient for covid-19 fear and panic to arrive on the scene not long after the release of this four-year peer reviewed study.

Now there's something to keep the populace distracted big time.

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Reply #162 - Jul 17th, 2020 at 7:21am
 
wombatwoody wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 12:34am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 16th, 2020 at 7:49am:
So the number of positive results is accurate. It's just that some of them are not reporting the negative results, that's the only reason that the positivity rate us skewed


Only in the smaller, private labs: "Orlando Veteran’s Medical Center had a positivity rate of 76 percent. A spokesperson for the VA told FOX 35 News on Tuesday that this does not reflect their numbers and that the positivity rate for the center is actually 6 percent."



You do understand what positivity rate means don't you?
If you neglect to report negative results then that affects the positivity rate
It doesn't affect the positive results. The positive results are still accurate.

wombatwoody wrote on Jul 17th, 2020 at 12:34am:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 7:17am:
a massive world wide conspiracy


How else to describe the failure of the MSM all around the world to report on a four-year study, peer reviewed and all, by an engineering team at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, that showed World Trade Center Building 7 did not collapse due to fire? The collapse was instead caused by a near simultaneous failure of every column in the building.  By near simultaneous they mean a gap of one point three seconds.  IOW, it was only 1.3 seconds away from a total simultaneous failure of every column in the building.

The team, led by Prof. J. Leroy Hulsey, did not go further and investigate what did cause this near simultaneous failure, but what else could have caused it but explosives?

This is huge news! 

On top of that, a peer review which upheld these findings and conclusions makes it even more newsworthy!

Yet there's been hardly a murmur from the MSM or the big news agencies anywhere in the world on this more than breaking news. That's proof of a massive world wide conspiracy right there.

And how convenient for covid-19 fear and panic to arrive on the scene not long after the release of this four-year peer reviewed study.

Now there's something to keep the populace distracted big time.



Ok you are a loony conspiracy theory nutter
I won't bother trying to use reason and logic with you.
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Reply #163 - Jul 17th, 2020 at 7:32am
 
You'll find if you analyse the data, Florida on a state level is lumping together the Positive tests and the anti-body tests to lower the "positive rate" and they're even altering the hospitalisation rates as there are fewer that they're reporting on a state level than the local municipalities (that the state can't access to change the data) are reporting.  The total is much higher when added together than what the state is showing.

The state has even admitted they're altering the data and fired a statistician who refused to alter the data for them.

So there is plenty of underreporting in Red states, so there is fake data.

It's just in an attempt to make the impacts of the virus seem lesser, not worse as woody is trying to claim, as if they're being directed to do so for purely political motives.
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Reply #164 - Jul 22nd, 2020 at 11:43pm
 
Again, we see smaller local stations covering issues that get ignored by the major networks:

'Dr. Scott Atlas of the Hoover Institute ...  emphasized the fact that the death rates are not going up, despite the increase in cases. “And that’s what really counts, are we getting people who are really sick and dying, and we’re not, and when we look at the hospitalizations, yes, hospitals are more crowded, but that’s mainly due to the re-installation of medical care for non COVID-19 patients.”

'Dr. Atlas used Texas of an example saying, “90+% of ICU beds are occupied, but only 15% are COVID patients. 85% of the occupied beds are not COVID patients. I think we have to look at the data and be aware that it doesn’t matter if younger, healthier people get infected, I  don’t know how often that has to be said, they have nearly zero risk of a problem from this. The only thing that counts are the older, more vulnerable people getting infected. And there’s no evidence that they really are ... 99% of people who get infected have no significant problem  ... There's zero reason to lock down the schools when the children have no risk” '

Dr. Scott Atlas disputes COVID-19 fear mongering tactics from health officials

And:

Unmasking The Science You Aren’t Hearing On TV - COVID-19 Facts from the Frontline

If you assume everyone who dies of corona is extra you're overcounting
- Dr. Michael Levitt

The case fatality rate is just completely and absolutely overstated 
- Dr. Alan Preston

The problem is, without the economy open, we're having more "deaths of despair" than deaths from the covid virus
- Dr. Michael Roizen

The collateral damage of the economy shutdown is becoming far worse than the virus itself  
- Dr. Dan Erikson



On that point of the lockdowns, a data analyst in South Africa asserts the consequences of the country’s lockdown will lead to 29-times more deaths than from the coronavirus itself:

https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2020-05-05-actuaries-warn-ramaphosa-of-a...


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