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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #135 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 1:01pm

Bam wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 12:56pm:

Jasin wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:20am:

Imperial better than Metric.
That's why only 5% of nations use it and like the USA, their Economies are 4th World. Roll Eyes

Imperial is very inefficient and it shows.
Funny how the USA 'dollar' reflects Metric, compared to the Pound.
It's easier to comprehend a Metre's length, than a Metre and a bit, like a Yard.

Metric:
One millimetre of rain falling on one square metre yields one litre of water.

Imperial:
One foot of rain falling on one acre yields a number of gallons that is an infinite decimal with four different values depending on whether the acre is an international acre or a US survey acre, and whether the gallon is a British gallon or US gallon.

Yes, 1 US gallon is 3.8 L, an imperial one 4.5 L. We measure our dam sizes logically in Litres KL, ML and GL. The US uses the ridiculous measurement of Acre - feet. Fukkin' brilliant system.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8650 armidale Gender:	Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number Reply #136 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 1:13pm US has liters and meters and less rain than UK litres and metres. It rains cats and dogs. Zero is the only reliable constant.
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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #137 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:29pm

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:31am:

Cofgod wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:22am:

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:16am:

Cofgod wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 7:07am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 1:20pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 1:04pm:

But , again from my personal experience and opinion, you cannot have anything that is zero.

Days with accidents this month : 0
x and y on graph are normally set at 0
Blood alcohol reading : 0

Exactly.
They start at zero, nothing, a point of beginning.

Zero is zero, nothing.
It has no value, simply because it dies not exist.
You can't divide, multiply or add zero.

It's not a number is a multiplier for convenience.

That's weird, because I was taught at school that 4+0=4, 4x0=0, 4-0=4 and 4÷0=0.

To say you can't multiply, add, subtract or divide 0 is silly. Children are taught that you can.

Glad I didn't go to your school. 4÷0 is undefined.

Type 4÷0 into your calculator and see what the answer is.

Come back in a few moments and let me know.

As expected, says math error. Quite logical really. how does one divide something zero times. Come back to us when you've dusted off your old textbooks.

The Riemann sphere, in some circumstances, allows for the division of zero. Cool

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20720 ACT Gender:	Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number Reply #138 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:39pm Is zero an odd or even number or not a number Ask Bobby, he is good with numbers!
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8650 armidale Gender:	Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number Reply #139 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 5:59pm Zero is an infinite of nothing , the infinitely small combined into multiple absences and solidly unvariable. Everything can be deconstructed into it : the meaning of life ; knowledge and infinite. It's all there.
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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #140 - Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 10:39pm

Nom de Plume wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:31am:

Cofgod wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:22am:

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:16am:

Cofgod wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 7:07am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 1:20pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 1:04pm:

But , again from my personal experience and opinion, you cannot have anything that is zero.

Days with accidents this month : 0
x and y on graph are normally set at 0
Blood alcohol reading : 0

Exactly.
They start at zero, nothing, a point of beginning.

Zero is zero, nothing.
It has no value, simply because it dies not exist.
You can't divide, multiply or add zero.

It's not a number is a multiplier for convenience.

That's weird, because I was taught at school that 4+0=4, 4x0=0, 4-0=4 and 4÷0=0.

To say you can't multiply, add, subtract or divide 0 is silly. Children are taught that you can.

Glad I didn't go to your school. 4÷0 is undefined.

Type 4÷0 into your calculator and see what the answer is.

Come back in a few moments and let me know.

As expected, says math error. Quite logical really. how does one divide something zero times. Come back to us when you've dusted off your old textbooks.

The Riemann sphere, in some circumstances, allows for the division of zero. Cool

Only for analytical convenience. Riemann simply extended the complex plane with the addition of the term infinity. In this case, division by zero still yields an indeterminate number but an expression that simply behaves. Riemann himself acknowledges this by the simple observation that infinity plus any other number is still infinity. 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 ……. n/0 are all equal to infinity.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #141 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 4:59am

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 1:01pm:

[quote author=bam68 link=1587819153/134#134 date=1591066566][quote author=JaSin link=1587819153/123#123 date=1591050002] Grin

Imperial better than Metric.
That's why only 5% of nations use it and like the USA, their Economies are 4th World. Roll Eyes

Imperial is very inefficient and it shows.
Funny how the USA 'dollar' reflects Metric, compared to the Pound.
It's easier to comprehend a Metre's length, than a Metre and a bit, like a Yard.

A metre is SMALLER than a yard, you idiot.

And YOU may find it easier to comprehend a metre than a yard, but the opposite is true if you're British (like me) or American.

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Imperial:
One foot of rain falling on one acre yields a number of gallons that is an infinite decimal with four different values depending on whether the acre is an international acre or a US survey acre, and whether the gallon is a British gallon or US gallon.

When I go into a pub, I ask for a pint of beer, not 568 millilitres of beer.

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Yes, 1 US gallon is 3.8 L, an imperial one 4.5 L. We measure our dam sizes logically in Litres KL, ML and GL. The US uses the ridiculous measurement of Acre - feet. Fukkin' brilliant system.

Why are acre and feet ridiculous?

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #142 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 5:58am

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:39pm:

Is zero an odd or even number or not a number

Ask Bobby, he is good with numbers!

Grin

I answered it on the first page:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1587819153/0

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Division by zero is undefined.

Zero is an even number.

- there was no need for it to go to 10 pages.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #143 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 8:30am

Cofgod wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 4:59am:

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 1:01pm:

[quote author=bam68 link=1587819153/134#134 date=1591066566][quote author=JaSin link=1587819153/123#123 date=1591050002] Grin

Imperial better than Metric.
That's why only 5% of nations use it and like the USA, their Economies are 4th World. Roll Eyes

Imperial is very inefficient and it shows.
Funny how the USA 'dollar' reflects Metric, compared to the Pound.
It's easier to comprehend a Metre's length, than a Metre and a bit, like a Yard.

A metre is SMALLER than a yard, you idiot.

You're a fukkin' tosser. A metre is longer than a yard by 3.37 inches. Now, go back to school.

And YOU may find it easier to comprehend a metre than a yard, but the opposite is true if you're British (like me) or American.

It's not just comprehension. Changing between units in a metric system involves the simplicity of shifting a decimal point. An imperial system requires manipulation with a plethora of constants. More difficult when area and volume require conversion. That requires the use square and cube roots. It's a quite a bit simpler to just shift a decimal point than fukk around with squares, cubes and roots.

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Imperial:
One foot of rain falling on one acre yields a number of gallons that is an infinite decimal with four different values depending on whether the acre is an international acre or a US survey acre, and whether the gallon is a British gallon or US gallon.

When I go into a pub, I ask for a pint of beer, not 568 millilitres of beer.

Don't try it in SA. You'll end up with 285 ml. I don't ask for 0.425 L either. I ask for a schooner.

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Yes, 1 US gallon is 3.8 L, an imperial one 4.5 L. We measure our dam sizes logically in Litres KL, ML and GL. The US uses the ridiculous measurement of Acre - feet. Fukkin' brilliant system.

Why are acre and feet ridiculous?

Conversion between units. Pipe sizes and flow rates. Flow rate will normally be calculated in ft^3 / sec. Such an operation requires one to convert acres into square feet first. Metric simply requires a decimal point shift.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #144 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 8:31am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 5:58am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:39pm:

Is zero an odd or even number or not a number

Ask Bobby, he is good with numbers!

Grin

I answered it on the first page:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1587819153/0

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Division by zero is undefined.

Zero is an even number.

- there was no need for it to go to 10 pages.

Everything around here needs 10 pages or more. Genius'

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #145 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:10am

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 10:39pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:31am:

Cofgod wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:22am:

crocodile wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 8:16am:

Cofgod wrote on Jun 2^nd, 2020 at 7:07am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 3:39pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 1:20pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 26^th, 2020 at 1:04pm:

But , again from my personal experience and opinion, you cannot have anything that is zero.

Days with accidents this month : 0
x and y on graph are normally set at 0
Blood alcohol reading : 0

Exactly.
They start at zero, nothing, a point of beginning.

Zero is zero, nothing.
It has no value, simply because it dies not exist.
You can't divide, multiply or add zero.

It's not a number is a multiplier for convenience.

That's weird, because I was taught at school that 4+0=4, 4x0=0, 4-0=4 and 4÷0=0.

To say you can't multiply, add, subtract or divide 0 is silly. Children are taught that you can.

Glad I didn't go to your school. 4÷0 is undefined.

Type 4÷0 into your calculator and see what the answer is.

Come back in a few moments and let me know.

As expected, says math error. Quite logical really. how does one divide something zero times. Come back to us when you've dusted off your old textbooks.

The Riemann sphere, in some circumstances, allows for the division of zero. Cool

Only for analytical convenience. Riemann simply extended the complex plane with the addition of the term infinity. In this case, division by zero still yields an indeterminate number but an expression that simply behaves. Riemann himself acknowledges this by the simple observation that infinity plus any other number is still infinity. 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 ……. n/0 are all equal to infinity.

That was an excellent answer... I don't know much about your forum presence, so excuse me whilst I inform myself via your post history. I look forward to engaging discussion in the future.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #146 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:25am

Um. A member just called me an idiot because I did highlight the fact that a metre is smaller than a yard. The rest of what he went on about went to the waste bin.

0 is nothing unless 'attached' to a number and when that happens, it ceases to be 0 (Zero) anymore. One is not 'plussed' to Zero like 1+0 = 10 (ten). It's just an 'attachment'. It's not really a number at all.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #147 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:29am

Jasin wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:25am:

Um. A member just called me an idiot because I did highlight the fact that a metre is smaller than a yard. The rest of what he went on about went to the waste bin.

0 is nothing unless 'attached' to a number and when that happens, it ceases to be 0 (Zero) anymore. One is not 'plussed' to Zero like 1+0 = 10 (ten). It's just an 'attachment'. It's not really a number at all.

Zero is a number -
if you don't have any apples.
How many do you have?

zero.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #148 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:33am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:29am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:25am:

Um. A member just called me an idiot because I did highlight the fact that a metre is smaller than a yard. The rest of what he went on about went to the waste bin.

0 is nothing unless 'attached' to a number and when that happens, it ceases to be 0 (Zero) anymore. One is not 'plussed' to Zero like 1+0 = 10 (ten). It's just an 'attachment'. It's not really a number at all.

Zero is a number -
if you don't have any apples.
How many do you have?

zero.

That's a defaulted question.

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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.

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Re: Is zero an odd or even number or not a number
Reply #149 - Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:41am

Jasin wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:29am:

Jasin wrote on Jun 3^rd, 2020 at 11:25am:

Um. A member just called me an idiot because I did highlight the fact that a metre is smaller than a yard. The rest of what he went on about went to the waste bin.

0 is nothing unless 'attached' to a number and when that happens, it ceases to be 0 (Zero) anymore. One is not 'plussed' to Zero like 1+0 = 10 (ten). It's just an 'attachment'. It's not really a number at all.

Zero is a number -
if you don't have any apples.
How many do you have?

zero.

That's a defaulted question.

Dear JaSin -
after having studied maths I can assure you that zero is a very important number

forgiven

namaste

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