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Question: How long will the Porsche prick spend behind bars?

less than 12 months    
  4 (28.6%)
1 to 2 years    
  3 (21.4%)
2 to 5 years    
  1 (7.1%)
5 to 7 years    
  0 (0.0%)
7 to 10 years    
  2 (14.3%)
more than ten years    
  0 (0.0%)
no time at all    
  3 (21.4%)
other    
  1 (7.1%)




Total votes: 14
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4 cops killed in Melbourne. (Read 11329 times)
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Reply #15 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:00am
 
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 7:56am:
it looks to be a 5 lane highway.....


do they not have laybys built into them????.....

what if you need to change a tyre after dark.???...

4 families devastated... for what EXACTLY?


Probably cost too much to make these roads safer... Angry Angry



The cops were in the emergency lane and their
lights were flashing.
The truck should have been nowhere near them.

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Reply #16 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:20am
 
So much for the requirement in VIC for traffic to slow to 40km/hr around police or other emergency vehicles where they are on the side of the road displaying flashing lights.

The truck driver is a nut-job. Maybe on drugs?

As for the criminal Porsche driver ... disgusting.

He took photos of the scene before running off and then later posted the pics on Facebook.  Angry

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Reply #17 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:26am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:20am:
So much for the requirement in VIC for traffic to slow to 40km/hr around police or other emergency vehicles where they are on the side of the road displaying flashing lights.

The truck driver is a nut-job. Maybe on drugs?

As for the criminal Porsche driver ... disgusting.

He took photos of the scene before running off and then later posted the pics on Facebook.  Angry




Hang em and hang em high?
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Reply #18 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:28am
 
By the scrotum.

This is the rule:

Passing law enforcement and emergency vehicles

From 1 July 2017 a new road rule has been introduced to improve safety for our emergency and enforcement workers.

You must slow down to a speed that would enable you to stop safely when approaching and passing enforcement, emergency or escort vehicles that are stationary or moving slowly (less than 10km/h)*, and have either:

Red and blue flashing lights
Magenta (purple flashing lights)
An alarm sounding.

You must not exceed 40km/h when passing the vehicle and not increase your speed until a safe distance from the scene (more on this below).

The new road rule does not apply to vehicles on the opposite side of a divided road (separated by a median strip) from an emergency or enforcement vehicle scene.

* A fire truck extinguishing roadside spot fires is an example of a slow moving emergency vehicle.

Do I need to slow down if an emergency or enforcement vehicle is in a service lane?

Emergencies are not limited to the side of the road and can occur anywhere on the road including dividing strips. As it is not possible to know where an incident is traffic must slow to 40km/h even if the emergency service vehicle is in the service road.

What type of emergency or enforcement vehicles are covered by the new rule?

Police vehicles
Ambulance Victoria vehicles
Metropolitan Fire Brigade vehicles
Country Fire Authority vehicles
Forest Fire Management Victoria vehicles
State Emergency Service vehicles
Search and Rescue Services
The National Heavy Vehicle Regulator (NHVR) Safety and Compliance Officer vehicles (magenta (purple) flashing lights)
Enforcement vehicles (magenta/purple flashing lights) under the control of a state transport body including VicRoads, DEDJTR and Taxi Commission enforcement vehicles
Other emergency patient transport vehicles with red and blue flashing lights.

Don’t motorists already slow down if they see an emergency vehicle ahead?

Most people already slow down when they see an emergency vehicle ahead with red and blue flashing lights, and/or alarm sounding.

The new rule establishes a required standard for safe behaviour and further ensures emergency workers can get on with their important work without worrying about being struck by a passing vehicle or debris.

The rule has been designed to provide maximum safety benefits to emergency and enforcement workers while keeping it simple for the Victorian community to understand.

https://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/safety-and-road-rules/road-rules/a-to-z-of-road-...
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Reply #19 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:45am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:20am:
So much for the requirement in VIC for traffic to slow to 40km/hr around police or other emergency vehicles where they are on the side of the road displaying flashing lights.

The truck driver is a nut-job. Maybe on drugs?

As for the criminal Porsche driver ... disgusting.

He took photos of the scene before running off and then later posted the pics on Facebook.

Criminal? You got that right.

Porsche driver makes contact with police after fatal Eastern Freeway crash which killed four officers
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The Porsche driver who fled the scene of a crash which killed four police officers on Melbourne's Eastern Freeway posted photos of the aftermath on Facebook, police have said.

The officers died when they were hit by a truck after pulling the Porsche 911 over late on Wednesday afternoon.

This morning, police said the 41-year-old male Porsche driver had an extensive criminal history and investigators had since made contact with him.

Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton said the driver tested positive for "some type of drug" after police stopped him.

"There have been some images placed on Facebook that appear to have been taken by this individual at the scene, before he has left the scene," he said.

"Some of those photographs were circulating last night online.

"We are talking to Facebook this morning about removing them."


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Reply #20 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 10:33am
 
Bam wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:45am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:20am:
So much for the requirement in VIC for traffic to slow to 40km/hr around police or other emergency vehicles where they are on the side of the road displaying flashing lights.

The truck driver is a nut-job. Maybe on drugs?

As for the criminal Porsche driver ... disgusting.

He took photos of the scene before running off and then later posted the pics on Facebook.

Criminal? You got that right.

Porsche driver makes contact with police after fatal Eastern Freeway crash which killed four officers
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The Porsche driver who fled the scene of a crash which killed four police officers on Melbourne's Eastern Freeway posted photos of the aftermath on Facebook, police have said.

The officers died when they were hit by a truck after pulling the Porsche 911 over late on Wednesday afternoon.

This morning, police said the 41-year-old male Porsche driver had an extensive criminal history and investigators had since made contact with him.

Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton said the driver tested positive for "some type of drug" after police stopped him.

"There have been some images placed on Facebook that appear to have been taken by this individual at the scene, before he has left the scene," he said.

"Some of those photographs were circulating last night online.

"We are talking to Facebook this morning about removing them."


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Facebook and criminals - what a wonderful combination   Roll Eyes
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Reply #21 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 10:52am
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:00am:
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 7:56am:
it looks to be a 5 lane highway.....


do they not have laybys built into them????.....

what if you need to change a tyre after dark.???...

4 families devastated... for what EXACTLY?


Probably cost too much to make these roads safer... Angry Angry



The cops were in the emergency lane and their
lights were flashing.
The truck should have been nowhere near them.





exactly!.....emergency lanes are very skimpy bobs...traffic is getting faster and trucks are getting bigger...
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Reply #22 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 11:03am
 
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 10:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:00am:
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 7:56am:
it looks to be a 5 lane highway.....


do they not have laybys built into them????.....

what if you need to change a tyre after dark.???...

4 families devastated... for what EXACTLY?


Probably cost too much to make these roads safer... Angry Angry



The cops were in the emergency lane and their
lights were flashing.
The truck should have been nowhere near them.





exactly!.....emergency lanes are very skimpy bobs...traffic is getting faster and trucks are getting bigger...


The smart arse truck driver thought he'd get past the traffic by going down the breakdown lane at high speed.

He'll have the next 8 to 12 years in prison to think about that stupid decision.

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Reply #23 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 11:15am
 
Here is an maps screen shot of the area

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We travel eastlink along that route to Melbourne often, it’s 100 kms per hour and wide, well lit up. Slip roads off the freeway are spacious with clear signs and directions. The freeway is flat and good road conditions, with visability well ahead.
And bear in mind, traffic is less than usual on the roads at present, and truck driver doing 100kph had plenty of space about him, albeit going straight into that particular point instead 🤔
I’m going to play devils advocate here, until we know for sure about the truck drivers distracted state, I’m willing to bet a mobile phone was in his hand? Those records can be checked last use of the phone etc.
We often see idiots driving and texting ... often, much to our disgust.
Even my own observation of that disrespect, rarely do I get in a car with a friend, to go somewhere, thinking how nice it is to be chaperoned, only to see them reading their phone text while driving, and I do say to put the phone down while driving!!!
I can’t believe the f kn stupidity of people of all ages and their f ked up fascination having to check their phone whilst driving.

So the only cause is a medical episode the truck driver had for him to plough into the officers on the emergency lane?
Shouldn’t be driving if its a chronic condition that may effect his judgement on road?
We wait and see what the medical episode was.
The details will hopefully come out in the open after all investigations for some better understanding how it could have happened.

I would surmise the truck driver will be in shock having been responsible for 4 deaths. As for the slimy Porsche driver, it is disgusting to post photos online. Worst disrespectful weasel there is. Sickening.

Bad enough one person being killed let alone four.



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Reply #24 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 11:31am
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:20am:
So much for the requirement in VIC for traffic to slow to 40km/hr around police or other emergency vehicles where they are on the side of the road displaying flashing lights.

The truck driver is a nut-job. Maybe on drugs?

As for the criminal Porsche driver ... disgusting.

He took photos of the scene before running off and then later posted the pics on Facebook.  Angry



How many times have you had to suddenly slow down from 100 to 40?  It can be a very nasty thing to do suddenly, especially for a heavy truck.  I've driven, some of it professionally, for over fifty years, and I nearly hit someone who suddenly hit the brakes hard when a cop had someone pulled over and hit the lights - three cars including mine frantically switched lanes to avoid a pileup, and I have a very good safety distance in front and expect it behind at all times and preferably nobody beside me on highways (crowded situations excepted).

It's a stupid rule, always was a stupid idea made up by people with no idea, and will cause more deaths like these, and trucks can't slow down that fast... ask the woman who tried to turn into Wootton Road in front of a truck in a 100 zone... her 4WD ended up mashed and the truck in the trees... or the two local blokes from the last hometown who swung out at what I called for years the Medowie Death Junction - stop sign onto THE highway and major intersection with heavy traffic all ways - and the bloke at the wheel, instead of merging, went straight to the left lane in front of a heavy... two men dead.

You don't mess with trucks and buses.
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Reply #25 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 12:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 11:03am:
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 10:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:00am:
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 7:56am:
it looks to be a 5 lane highway.....


do they not have laybys built into them????.....

what if you need to change a tyre after dark.???...

4 families devastated... for what EXACTLY?


Probably cost too much to make these roads safer... Angry Angry



The cops were in the emergency lane and their
lights were flashing.
The truck should have been nowhere near them.





exactly!.....emergency lanes are very skimpy bobs...traffic is getting faster and trucks are getting bigger...


The smart arse truck driver thought he'd get past the traffic by going down the breakdown lane at high speed.

He'll have the next 8 to 12 years in prison to think about that stupid decision.




He's lucky he's not in the wild west as he would have been hanged already.



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Reply #26 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 12:32pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 11:31am:
Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:20am:
So much for the requirement in VIC for traffic to slow to 40km/hr around police or other emergency vehicles where they are on the side of the road displaying flashing lights.

The truck driver is a nut-job. Maybe on drugs?

As for the criminal Porsche driver ... disgusting.

He took photos of the scene before running off and then later posted the pics on Facebook.  Angry



How many times have you had to suddenly slow down from 100 to 40?  It can be a very nasty thing to do suddenly, especially for a heavy truck.  I've driven, some of it professionally, for over fifty years, and I nearly hit someone who suddenly hit the brakes hard when a cop had someone pulled over and hit the lights - three cars including mine frantically switched lanes to avoid a pileup, and I have a very good safety distance in front and expect it behind at all times and preferably nobody beside me on highways (crowded situations excepted).

It's a stupid rule, always was a stupid idea made up by people with no idea, and will cause more deaths like these, and trucks can't slow down that fast... ask the woman who tried to turn into Wootton Road in front of a truck in a 100 zone... her 4WD ended up mashed and the truck in the trees... or the two local blokes from the last hometown who swung out at what I called for years the Medowie Death Junction - stop sign onto THE highway and major intersection with heavy traffic all ways - and the bloke at the wheel, instead of merging, went straight to the left lane in front of a heavy... two men dead.

You don't mess with trucks and buses.


If you don't know how to travel at safe distances and/or slow your truck down in an emergency, you shouldn't be on the road.

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Reply #27 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 12:44pm
 
rhino wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 12:36am:
you fwits. Who knows the exact circumstances, 4 officers doing their jobs. Have some respect.


hear hear!


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Reply #28 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 12:46pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 12:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 11:03am:
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 10:52am:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 9:00am:
cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2020 at 7:56am:
it looks to be a 5 lane highway.....


do they not have laybys built into them????.....

what if you need to change a tyre after dark.???...

4 families devastated... for what EXACTLY?


Probably cost too much to make these roads safer... Angry Angry



The cops were in the emergency lane and their
lights were flashing.
The truck should have been nowhere near them.





exactly!.....emergency lanes are very skimpy bobs...traffic is getting faster and trucks are getting bigger...


The smart arse truck driver thought he'd get past the traffic by going down the breakdown lane at high speed.

He'll have the next 8 to 12 years in prison to think about that stupid decision.




He's lucky he's not in the wild west as he would have been hanged already.





Grow up, you silly old idiot.
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Reply #29 - Apr 23rd, 2020 at 12:49pm
 
Hopefully, this particular truck driver will never drive commercially again.
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