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Re: Australia is winning
Reply #45 - Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:21pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 8:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 6:44pm:

........... dig up this post in 6 weeks and tell me i was right.
there is zero chance of a lockdown til a vaccine.

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......... there is zero chance of a lockdown til a vaccine. ..........

Yes.

sprint, what i think will happen is that they will HAVE to get things going again,
but it wont be business as usual.

probably temperature scanning before entering a workplace. school or child care centre

probably mandatory testing to be done monthly for people in certain roles.

probably lockdowns of individual suburbs when cases are clustered.

proably no big sporting events , no concerts, no big parties or weddings until there is a vaccine (maybe 2 years).

probably very little international travel.

probably a mandatory requirement to wear a mask in public.

probably resturants re opened with 1/2 seating capacity

probably beaches re opened with just the social distancing rules in place.

probably tracking devices on all people who test positive.

a new normal.

2 things.

people wont/cant/shouldnt be expected to cope with strict lockdown after the end of april.

we are going to have to just monitor the hospitals and then adjust the level of restrictions to match that.

currently, we have been "too' successful and the hospitals are empty.
there is no point just aiming for perfection when it is impossible.
we should ease, let the virus burn in a controlled way.
it will provide us with data and allow us to course correct and learn.

we will NOT eliminate this disease.

hell, evem whooping cough and hepatits a and b for which we have very very high levels of vaccination and immunity STILL present with new cases and we have NO immunity to this and it is super contagious.

so we need to chill, trust in our health system

live life as normally as possible
hit the beach and the gym and visit friends.
everyone who can work safely needs to do so.

and dont be believing in fairytales like a vaccine that works and is rolled out in 2020.
it wont be happening.

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Re: Australia is winning
Reply #46 - Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:29pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:21pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 8:54pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 6:44pm:

........... dig up this post in 6 weeks and tell me i was right.
there is zero chance of a lockdown til a vaccine.

zero

Quote:

......... there is zero chance of a lockdown til a vaccine. ..........

Yes.

sprint, what i think will happen is

that they will HAVE to get things going again,
but it wont be business as usual.

probably temperature scanning before entering a workplace. school or child care centre

probably mandatory testing to be done monthly for people in certain roles.

probably lockdowns of individual suburbs when cases are clustered.

proably no big sporting events , no concerts, no big parties or weddings until there is a vaccine (maybe 2 years).

probably very little international travel.

probably a mandatory requirement to wear a mask in public.

probably resturants re opened with 1/2 seating capacity.
probably beaches re opened with just the social distancing rules in place.

probably tracking devices on all people who test positive.

a new normal.

2 things.

people wont/cant/shouldnt be expected to cope with strict lockdown after the end of april.

we are going to have to just monitor the hospitals and then adjust the level of restrictions to match that.

currently, we have been "too' successful and the hospitals are empty.
there is no point just aiming for perfection when it is impossible.
we should ease, let the virus burn in a controlled way.
it will provide us with data and allow us to course correct and learn.

we will NOT eliminate this disease.

hell, evem whooping cough and hepatits a and b for which we have very very high levels of vaccination and immunity STILL present with new cases and we have NO immunity to this and it is super contagious.

so we need to chill, trust in our health system

live life as normally as possible
hit the beach and the gym and visit friends.
everyone who can work safely needs to do so.

and dont be believing in fairytales like a vaccine that works and is rolled out in 2020.
it wont be happening.

I agree

Thanks Aqua.
You have helped me a lot over the past few years.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13182 Armidale Gender:	Re: Australia is winning Reply #47 - Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:36pm NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:20pm: Well, its enough that I know... no it's not , is it?
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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40952 Gender:	Re: Australia is winning Reply #48 - Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:40pm Quote: As at 3:00pm on 11 April 2020, there have been 6,292 confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Australia. There have been 89 new cases since 3:00pm yesterday. This is a hand to hand battle. Street by street, house by house We beat diseases, but they do not surrender
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Australia is winning Reply #49 - Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:43pm chimera wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:36pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:20pm: Well, its enough that I know... no it's not , is it? Why not?
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13182 Armidale Gender:	Re: Australia is winning Reply #50 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 6:59am Quote: Why not? That's your personal history and psyche. You obsess about regime change affecting 1/5 of world population and a regime which includes , in your view, any who question your logic. This mind-set drove all those dictators who you condemn.
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Re: Australia is winning
Reply #51 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 8:23am

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

If you google - coronavirus new cases - you get an interesting plot of the number of new cases each day. In Australia this has been going down since the end of March. This puts us well ahead of most other countries. China is also going down, but I expect that is because they gave up testing. Most other countries are still going up, or just flattening.

Does this mean we can start easing off the sillier restrictions soon?

What are some of the "sillier" restrictions?

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Reply #52 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 8:37am

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 5:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 3:33pm:

We dont have that kind of fine nonsense here in SA

you don't have idiots thinking their right to go to the beach over rules public safety

fd, maybe you should move to SA. Then your problem is solved

You don't catch the virus from sand John.

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Re: Australia is winning
Reply #53 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:20am

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 8:23am:

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

If you google - coronavirus new cases - you get an interesting plot of the number of new cases each day. In Australia this has been going down since the end of March. This puts us well ahead of most other countries. China is also going down, but I expect that is because they gave up testing. Most other countries are still going up, or just flattening.

Does this mean we can start easing off the sillier restrictions soon?

What are some of the "sillier" restrictions?

Allow cafes and restaurants to serve food.
Maintain a 2M physical distance.
Open beaches and forests

Keep pressing home the physical distancing and hygiene

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Reply #54 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:20am

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 8:37am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 5:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 3:33pm:

We dont have that kind of fine nonsense here in SA

you don't have idiots thinking their right to go to the beach over rules public safety

fd, maybe you should move to SA. Then your problem is solved

You don't catch the virus from sand John.

how do you know?????..

do they test everyone who uses the beaches?....

maybe you think we should throw caution to the wind...

dont forget we have no idea how those who have recovered will have a real clean bill of health.......

do we know if they will have any long lasting issues????? Angry

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Reply #55 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:24am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 8:23am:

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

If you google - coronavirus new cases - you get an interesting plot of the number of new cases each day. In Australia this has been going down since the end of March. This puts us well ahead of most other countries. China is also going down, but I expect that is because they gave up testing. Most other countries are still going up, or just flattening.

Does this mean we can start easing off the sillier restrictions soon?

What are some of the "sillier" restrictions?

Allow cafes and restaurants to serve food.
Maintain a 2M physical distance.
Open beaches and forests

Keep pressing home the physical distancing and hygiene

funny they seem to be working... Undecided

as for the food industry.......as long as its hygienically served .. we do need to eat and many cannot do that for themselves.............is meals on wheels fatal?... Roll Eyes

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Reply #56 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:42am

cods wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 8:37am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 5:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 3:33pm:

We dont have that kind of fine nonsense here in SA

you don't have idiots thinking their right to go to the beach over rules public safety

fd, maybe you should move to SA. Then your problem is solved

You don't catch the virus from sand John.

how do you know?????..

do they test everyone who uses the beaches?....

maybe you think we should throw caution to the wind...

dont forget we have no idea how those who have recovered will have a real clean bill of health.......

do we know if they will have any long lasting issues????? Angry

I am suggesting we not throw common sense to the wind. The whole beach thing is based on misleading photos being pushed by clickbait 'journalism'.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 13182 Armidale Gender:	Re: Australia is winning Reply #57 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:43am Docs say to take all antibiotics pills even after you recover. There's a reason , same as watching burning stumps after a bushfire has stopped.
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Re: Australia is winning
Reply #58 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:59am

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:42am:

cods wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:20am:

freediver wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 8:37am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 5:29pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Apr 11^th, 2020 at 3:33pm:

We dont have that kind of fine nonsense here in SA

you don't have idiots thinking their right to go to the beach over rules public safety

fd, maybe you should move to SA. Then your problem is solved

You don't catch the virus from sand John.

how do you know?????..

do they test everyone who uses the beaches?....

maybe you think we should throw caution to the wind...

dont forget we have no idea how those who have recovered will have a real clean bill of health.......

do we know if they will have any long lasting issues????? Angry

I am suggesting we not throw common sense to the wind. The whole beach thing is based on misleading photos being pushed by clickbait 'journalism'.

well there you go your commonsense and mine seem to go in differing directions fd...

to me it makes sense clearing the beaches where everyone is in another place they are not thinking about safety and distance children frolicking .. someone needing to be saved given cpr....be practical fd...people do the wrong thing all the time........

someone gets moved from a park bench.......people cant see that is not exercising which you are allowed to do.....

if you are a jogger walker sprinter you do not need a park bench to sit on...

fd you can sit in your back yard even buy some sand to sit in if you miss that.....give it a try and stop whingeing thats a good boy.

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Reply #59 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:45am

chimera wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 9:43am:

Docs say to take all antibiotics pills even after you recover. There's a reason , same as watching burning stumps after a bushfire has stopped.

The problem is Chimera, that we can't keep these restrictions in for 2 years. People simply won't accept it.
As surprised as I am to admit it, Aquascoots last post (reply #45) is spot on and a sensible way forward

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