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Reply #60 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 4:34pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 4:07pm:
17,000 dead?

Impossible.



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Reply #61 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 4:38pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 4:21pm:
lee wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 12:11pm:
NK is a part of the planet; no? And of course there is no reason to trust China's figures either. Wink



no reason to trust the USA's figures either


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The coronavirus death count in New York City, already unfathomable, is expected to surge in the coming days as officials begin including people who have been dropping dead at home without an official diagnosis.

Emergency Medical Service data first reported by Gothamist suggests the undercount of individuals who have likely died from the virus is massive. On Tuesday alone, 256 people were pronounced dead at home across the five boroughs. Until this month, about 25 people in New York City were found dead in their homes on a typical day, suggesting that most of Tuesday’s calls were related to the outbreak that has already killed over 5,400 people across the state and infected 140,386 more. 


https://www.thedailybeast.com/nycs-coronavirus-death-toll-expected-to-surge-as-o...




they might not be completely accurate but there is no reason to beleive there is any attempt to hide the figures either unlike what we would expect china to do.
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AUSSIE: "Speaking for myself, I could not care less about 298 human beings having their life snuffed out in a nano-second, or what impact that loss has on Members of their family, their parents..."
 
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Reply #62 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 4:46pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 4:38pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 4:21pm:
lee wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 12:11pm:
NK is a part of the planet; no? And of course there is no reason to trust China's figures either. Wink



no reason to trust the USA's figures either


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The coronavirus death count in New York City, already unfathomable, is expected to surge in the coming days as officials begin including people who have been dropping dead at home without an official diagnosis.

Emergency Medical Service data first reported by Gothamist suggests the undercount of individuals who have likely died from the virus is massive. On Tuesday alone, 256 people were pronounced dead at home across the five boroughs. Until this month, about 25 people in New York City were found dead in their homes on a typical day, suggesting that most of Tuesday’s calls were related to the outbreak that has already killed over 5,400 people across the state and infected 140,386 more. 


https://www.thedailybeast.com/nycs-coronavirus-death-toll-expected-to-surge-as-o...




they might not be completely accurate but there is no reason to beleive there is any attempt to hide the figures either unlike what we would expect china to do.


I know that although I'm sure if trump could hide the figures, he would. I just don't think he can.

My point was that we won't know the actual numbers, from anyone, for a while yet.
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Reply #63 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:07pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 3:23pm:
Marla wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
Stats I heard were 1 American dying every 45 seconds from Cornona.


So that would be 1.33/ minute *60 for minutes* 60 for an hour * 24 for a day

= 114912 per day. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

I guess it is true 97% of stats are just made up.

Yes lee.
80 per hour , 1920 per day , about the actual amount.
And your figure-calculation was wrong by 288.
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Reply #64 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:07pm
 
it doesn't matter what you die of in the US at the moment but they test if you have the COVID19 virus and if they have it they put on your death cert that you died of COVID19..

even if you had a heart attack etc...

the stats for other sicknesses have fallen off a cliff while COVID has taken off like a rocket..

coincidence ?

durrr  Cheesy

One Million...  Roll Eyes

is that your wet dream?

you just can't wait for people to die just so you can bag Trump...

Get some help you sick bastard...
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Reply #65 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:11pm
 
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facts supporting his contention that many people who have been hospitalized for — and died of — COVID-19 were already in poor health.

“On April 1, the CDC reported that 73 percent of all Americans hospitalized for COVID have a preexisting health condition that made them vulnerable for the contagion. That lines up with a study out of China that states less than one percent of virus fatalities occur in folks with no health problems,”
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Reply #66 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:20pm
 
so the dead had it coming?
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #67 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:22pm
 
Well, America has a population of 329 Million Plus. If 1 million or so died from the China Virus, America would still have well over 325 Million men, women, and children that could kick any Australian arse, any day of the week, from here until hell freezes 3 times over.    Grin Grin
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Reply #68 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:22pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:11pm:
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facts supporting his contention that many people who have been hospitalized for — and died of — COVID-19 were already in poor health.

“On April 1, the CDC reported that 73 percent of all Americans hospitalized for COVID have a preexisting health condition that made them vulnerable for the contagion. That lines up with a study out of China that states less than one percent of virus fatalities occur in folks with no health problems,”



i don't know why you idiots are so surprised by this that you keep repeating it.

It was said from the very beginning that the most vulnerable were the old and those with pre exisiting conditions. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #69 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:28pm
 
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:07pm:
it doesn't matter what you die of in the US at the moment but they test if you have the COVID19 virus and if they have it they put on your death cert that you died of COVID19..

even if you had a heart attack etc...

the stats for other sicknesses have fallen off a cliff while COVID has taken off like a rocket..

coincidence ?

durrr  Cheesy

One Million...  Roll Eyes

is that your wet dream?

you just can't wait for people to die just so you can bag Trump...

Get some help you sick bastard...


Jesus, you are so smacking thick.

Roll Eyes


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Reply #70 - Apr 10th, 2020 at 11:30pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:22pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:11pm:
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facts supporting his contention that many people who have been hospitalized for — and died of — COVID-19 were already in poor health.

“On April 1, the CDC reported that 73 percent of all Americans hospitalized for COVID have a preexisting health condition that made them vulnerable for the contagion. That lines up with a study out of China that states less than one percent of virus fatalities occur in folks with no health problems,”



i don't know why you idiots are so surprised by this that you keep repeating it.

It was said from the very beginning that the most vulnerable were the old and those with pre exisiting conditions. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You missed the point.

What is happening is that people with all sorts of conditions are dying.

This happens people - people die all the time. More than 10 million in the US per year.

However many of these deaths are being included as the cause of death is Covid-19.

This is inflating the death toll and giving the public the wrong impression.

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Reply #71 - Apr 11th, 2020 at 12:13am
 
Richdude wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 11:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:22pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:11pm:
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facts supporting his contention that many people who have been hospitalized for — and died of — COVID-19 were already in poor health.

“On April 1, the CDC reported that 73 percent of all Americans hospitalized for COVID have a preexisting health condition that made them vulnerable for the contagion. That lines up with a study out of China that states less than one percent of virus fatalities occur in folks with no health problems,”



i don't know why you idiots are so surprised by this that you keep repeating it.

It was said from the very beginning that the most vulnerable were the old and those with pre exisiting conditions. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You missed the point.

What is happening is that people with all sorts of conditions are dying.

This happens people - people die all the time. More than 10 million in the US per year.

However many of these deaths are being included as the cause of death is Covid-19.

This is inflating the death toll and giving the public the wrong impression.



Only if you are looking for excuses.

There is also a large bias towards black Americans being more vulnerable, this is because they are less healthy which comes from poorer quality of health care. Poorer people have less access to healthcare directly relates to these people being more susceptible to a poor outcome with Corona Virus.

I find it interesting that these same people supported Biden over Sanders who was offering free health. They went against the guy offering them by far the most important change to their living standards possible in favour of the guy offering the status quo. Unbelievable how stupid some people are.
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Reply #72 - Apr 11th, 2020 at 5:12am
 
Dnarever wrote on Apr 11th, 2020 at 12:13am:
Richdude wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 11:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:22pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:11pm:
Quote:
facts supporting his contention that many people who have been hospitalized for — and died of — COVID-19 were already in poor health.

“On April 1, the CDC reported that 73 percent of all Americans hospitalized for COVID have a preexisting health condition that made them vulnerable for the contagion. That lines up with a study out of China that states less than one percent of virus fatalities occur in folks with no health problems,”



i don't know why you idiots are so surprised by this that you keep repeating it.

It was said from the very beginning that the most vulnerable were the old and those with pre exisiting conditions. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You missed the point.

What is happening is that people with all sorts of conditions are dying.

This happens people - people die all the time. More than 10 million in the US per year.

However many of these deaths are being included as the cause of death is Covid-19.

This is inflating the death toll and giving the public the wrong impression.



Only if you are looking for excuses.

There is also a large bias towards black Americans being more vulnerable, this is because they are less healthy which comes from poorer quality of health care. Poorer people have less access to healthcare directly relates to these people being more susceptible to a poor outcome with Corona Virus.

I find it interesting that these same people supported Biden over Sanders who was offering free health. They went against the guy offering them by far the most important change to their living standards possible in favour of the guy offering the status quo. Unbelievable how stupid some people are.


Excuses? For what?

Peoples health is not governed by health care. You must mean sickness is taken care by health care surely? What's called "health care" should really be called "sickness care".

Health is primarily a lifestyle choice. Quality of food, sanitation, clean air and water. Plus exercise all contribute to health. Many blacks live in the inner cities - toxic environments. These are the factors that produce illness - less ability of the immune system to fight contagions.
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Reply #73 - Apr 11th, 2020 at 10:24am
 
Richdude wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 11:30pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:22pm:
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 5:11pm:
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facts supporting his contention that many people who have been hospitalized for — and died of — COVID-19 were already in poor health.

“On April 1, the CDC reported that 73 percent of all Americans hospitalized for COVID have a preexisting health condition that made them vulnerable for the contagion. That lines up with a study out of China that states less than one percent of virus fatalities occur in folks with no health problems,”



i don't know why you idiots are so surprised by this that you keep repeating it.

It was said from the very beginning that the most vulnerable were the old and those with pre exisiting conditions. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You missed the point.

What is happening is that people with all sorts of conditions are dying.

This happens people - people die all the time. More than 10 million in the US per year.

However many of these deaths are being included as the cause of death is Covid-19.

This is inflating the death toll and giving the public the wrong impression.



Why the need to tell outright lies? your name isnt Trump is it?
2017, 2.8m deaths in the US, a long long way from your claimed 10m.
Thats why you will never be taken seriously on any forum, your need to tell outright lies to try and prove a point, Just like your messiah Trump.


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Reply #74 - Apr 11th, 2020 at 10:26am
 
Richdude wrote on Apr 10th, 2020 at 11:30pm:
You missed the point.

What is happening is that people with all sorts of conditions are dying.

This happens people - people die all the time. More than 10 million in the US per year.

However many of these deaths are being included as the cause of death is Covid-19.


rubbish. These people are being killed because of covid. My old man has had heart trouble for about 15 yrs, it hasn't killed him. He's also had a chest infection for a few years  that has only recently cleared. All that aside, he'll probably live for another decade if he looks after himself.
If he gets covid he's very high risk and if he dies, it's not because of the other factors, it's because of covid. That is the straw that breaks the camels back
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