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Apr 8th, 2020 at 7:13pm
 
Most of you know my stance on suppressing a natural immune builder in the Cold & Flu, by jabbing people with make-shift vaccines that don't always work and can have side-effects - almost like Cold/Flu symptoms straight away.

But now I must admit that now is the time that such Jabs are justified (But not must be relied upon, for that would be far worse outcome).
We don't want a 'Double-Whammy' of both Common Cold/Flu and Corona Virus spilling into the Hospitals.
Surely there must be a better system than piling people into  one building?

So I hereby will stand aside and I hope the Jabs work.
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Reply #1 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 7:16pm
 
Well done.

It's expected that with our new habits of social distancing and hygiene this years flu season will not be as bad.
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Reply #2 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 7:20am
 
MY family and I are booked in for this latest flushot on Tuesday.  I was only able to get them bookings before the site went down but I was finally able to get one for myself.

There is also no need to apologise.
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Reply #3 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 7:24am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 8th, 2020 at 7:16pm:
Well done.

It's expected that with our new habits of social distancing and hygiene this years flu season will not be as bad.



Yeah, what's a virus with ten times the lethality rate when compared to that?
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Reply #4 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 7:58am
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 8th, 2020 at 7:13pm:
Most of you know my stance on suppressing a natural immune builder in the Cold & Flu, by jabbing people with make-shift vaccines that don't always work and can have side-effects - almost like Cold/Flu symptoms straight away.

But now I must admit that now is the time that such Jabs are justified (But not must be relied upon, for that would be far worse outcome).
We don't want a 'Double-Whammy' of both Common Cold/Flu and Corona Virus spilling into the Hospitals.
Surely there must be a better system than piling people into  one building?

So I hereby will stand aside and I hope the Jabs work.
JaSun

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They are a preventative .....  not a cure

they don't cover all strains

I've heard all the arguments about getting sick after getting the shot but

I've been having one for the past 8 yrs & not once did I get flu symptons after the jab.

In that 8 years I have had one serious dose of the flu ...... but I put that down to being a strain not covered.
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Reply #5 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 8:55am
 
My fear, though there are no stats out there.
Is that relying on Jabs year in and out
is like sweeping the dirt under the rug.
If someone doesn't get their jab after, say 8 straight years and they get the Flu. Chances of them being hospitalised when they do get the flue, most likely to be high.
The dependency on the Jab every year will bring a sense of sterility sure, against the Flu - but also an increasing amount of fragility long term.
Will we need a Lock Down from the 'common cold/flu' then?
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Reply #6 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:18am
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 8:55am:
My fear, though there are no stats out there.
Is that relying on Jabs year in and out
is like sweeping the dirt under the rug.
If someone doesn't get their jab after, say 8 straight years and they get the Flu. Chances of them being hospitalised when they do get the flue, most likely to be high.
The dependency on the Jab every year will bring a sense of sterility sure, against the Flu - but also an increasing amount of fragility long term.
Will we need a Lock Down from the 'common cold/flu' then?


Are you saying a vaccinated population would be more susceptible to the Flu?
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Reply #7 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:23am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:18am:
Jasin wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 8:55am:
My fear, though there are no stats out there.
Is that relying on Jabs year in and out
is like sweeping the dirt under the rug.
If someone doesn't get their jab after, say 8 straight years and they get the Flu. Chances of them being hospitalised when they do get the flue, most likely to be high.
The dependency on the Jab every year will bring a sense of sterility sure, against the Flu - but also an increasing amount of fragility long term.
Will we need a Lock Down from the 'common cold/flu' then?


Are you saying a vaccinated population would be more susceptible to the Flu?

A 'long term' vaccinated population.
At the moment there is no 'cure' for the common cold/flu.
Which thankfully is good because these are the few things that build our immune systems up yearly - naturally.
Sure they can be an inconvenience at times.

But I would prefer my yearly common cold/flu with a 1m swell. Rather than 5 years of flat seas and then sink on the 6th year due to a 8m swell of storm.

This year I do think pushing the Common Cold/Flu to the side for a bit as the load of Corona Virus is the priority.

Look what happened to the Americas, Oceania and the Aboriginals with their sterile existence from the Common Cold/Flu - 75% wiped out. Proberly 70% if they had modern medical care - it was that devastating.
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Reply #8 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:26am
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:23am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:18am:
Jasin wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 8:55am:
My fear, though there are no stats out there.
Is that relying on Jabs year in and out
is like sweeping the dirt under the rug.
If someone doesn't get their jab after, say 8 straight years and they get the Flu. Chances of them being hospitalised when they do get the flue, most likely to be high.
The dependency on the Jab every year will bring a sense of sterility sure, against the Flu - but also an increasing amount of fragility long term.
Will we need a Lock Down from the 'common cold/flu' then?


Are you saying a vaccinated population would be more susceptible to the Flu?

A 'long term' vaccinated population.
At the moment there is no 'cure' for the common cold/flu.
Which thankfully is good because these are the few things that build our immune systems up yearly - naturally.
Sure they can be an inconvenience at times.

But I would prefer my yearly common cold/flu with a 1m swell. Rather than 5 years of flat seas and then sink on the 6th year due to a 8m swell of storm.

This year I do think pushing the Common Cold/Flu to the side for a bit as the load of Corona Virus is the priority.

Look what happened to the Americas, Oceania and the Aboriginals with their sterile existence from the Common Cold/Flu - 75% wiped out. Proberly 70% if they had modern medical care - it was that devastating.


Do you not understand how vaccinations work?
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Reply #9 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:35am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:18am:
Jasin wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 8:55am:
My fear, though there are no stats out there.
Is that relying on Jabs year in and out
is like sweeping the dirt under the rug.
If someone doesn't get their jab after, say 8 straight years and they get the Flu. Chances of them being hospitalised when they do get the flue, most likely to be high.
The dependency on the Jab every year will bring a sense of sterility sure, against the Flu - but also an increasing amount of fragility long term.
Will we need a Lock Down from the 'common cold/flu' then?


Are you saying a vaccinated population would be more susceptible to the Flu?

The way I understood it is if one takes flu jabs all the time, then their immune becomes so reliant that if one year of flu jab isn’t taken, the flu could be worse in that person than otherwise?

Me for instance, I don’t want to allow my immune system weakened and not work properly if it relies on flu jabs.
Some people do have weaker constitutions and the usual flu sets them back up to 2 weeks. One has to know themselves, but many don’t, I get the odd flu bug and it’s a 4 day duration for me, I’m not totally bed ridden either.
I feel it peak quickly.
I just wish people were not afraid of their immune system. But hey, look at all the crap in ones blood now. Then there’s faulty lifestyle choices too.
Compared to those aged in their 80s and 90s that survived all those years with no flu jabs throughout their lives.
Stronger constitutions. Each generation is getting weaker constitutions. Any wonder!

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Reply #10 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:37am
 
LOL Junk science anti-vaxxers.


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Reply #11 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 10:06am
 
I'm not against vax's for measles and other one off diseases.
But the common flu/cold is essential for our survival.
I do admit, pushing it aside this year might be wise.
But after - go back to normal.

It's those with a weak constitution (or bad lungs due to smoking, etc) which might be the ones dying... if there was any stats on the deaths as to why they die and not the other 90%??

I wonder if the Medical Industry (Western) wants to pump out yearly Jabs for flu/cold for 'legal' reasons - which is mostly the way they operate? I think they are over-achieving in this then.
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Reply #12 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 10:57am
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 8th, 2020 at 7:13pm:
Most of you know my stance on suppressing a natural immune builder in the Cold & Flu, by jabbing people with make-shift vaccines that don't always work and can have side-effects - almost like Cold/Flu symptoms straight away.

But now I must admit that now is the time that such Jabs are justified (But not must be relied upon, for that would be far worse outcome).
We don't want a 'Double-Whammy' of both Common Cold/Flu and Corona Virus spilling into the Hospitals.
Surely there must be a better system than piling people into  one building?

So I hereby will stand aside and I hope the Jabs work.
JaSun

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well done jas.....nothing wrong with a change of mind   we all do it.....well not all.... Smiley Smiley
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Reply #13 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 10:59am
 
our hot head.... [you know who you are]  who are convinced this is all a hoax......have quietened down  or have i just been reading the wrong threads?
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Reply #14 - Apr 9th, 2020 at 11:46am
 
Marla wrote on Apr 9th, 2020 at 9:37am:
LOL Junk science anti-vaxxers.


"Muh ked ain't gunna beh nuh returd."


It's literally from those anti-vaxx sites, but usually they then follow it up wait claiming that each of those vaccinations are individual injections, which isn't true.

There is a whole terrible thread for this conspiracy theory in the Fringe,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1333413032
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