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Can we burn this out?
Apr 8^th, 2020 at 1:55pm

I heard a senior epidemiologist on ABC radio today and his outlook was very very bleak.

Either we let it rip thru the population and we have untold deaths or let it slowly infect the population at a rate the ICUs can handle and that could take years.

So how about this. Instead of having reasonably strict lock-downs and making everybody reasonably miserable for a long time, why don't we go into a HYPER lock-down, and by lock-down I mean locked-the-bugger-down.

First what we need is to raise an army of workers to deliver food packages and medicine and other essentials. All free, all paid for in lieu of the current Govt payments. All the necessities of life will be free for 6 weeks. It won't be gourmet fare, but we'll all make do.

Police and ADF would partol the streets and anyone caught out with a reason which is less than a life or death emergency goes directly to quarantine camp, then 5 years prison when it's over.

After 3 weeks the ADF, police and essential service workers go into quarantine and are replaced by a group who've been waiting in quarantine and we carry on for another 3 weeks.

6 weeks of total misery vs an open ended period of misery.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26460 Australia	Re: Can we burn this out? Reply #1 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:02pm yeah they wont do that - its not like they actually care how many die (eg look at schools and hairdressers) Spot
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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 8639 armidale Gender:	Re: Can we burn this out? Reply #2 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:07pm Good-oh but the food producers remain the same, shelf stackers become box fillers the same . However delivery means transport which cuts out contacts in shops which is the way to go.
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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26460 Australia	Re: Can we burn this out? Reply #3 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:08pm Thats why he said to supply the food first Spot
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Re: Can we burn this out?
Reply #4 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:08pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 1:55pm:

I heard a senior epidemiologist on ABC radio today and his outlook was very very bleak.

Either we let it rip thru the population and we have untold deaths or let it slowly infect the population at a rate the ICUs can handle and that could take years.

So how about this. Instead of having reasonably strict lock-downs and making everybody reasonably miserable for a long time, why don't we go into a HYPER lock-down, and by lock-down I mean locked-the-bugger-down.

First what we need is to raise an army of workers to deliver food packages and medicine and other essentials. All free, all paid for in lieu of the current Govt payments. All the necessities of life will be free for 6 weeks. It won't be gourmet fare, but we'll all make do.

Police and ADF would partol the streets and anyone caught out with a reason which is less than a life or death emergency goes directly to quarantine camp, then 5 years prison when it's over.

After 3 weeks the ADF, police and essential service workers go into quarantine and are replaced by a group who've been waiting in quarantine and we carry on for another 3 weeks.

6 weeks of total misery vs an open ended period of misery.

The problem is all that does is delay the inevitable.

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Reply #5 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:11pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 1:55pm:

I heard a senior epidemiologist on ABC radio today and his outlook was very very bleak.

Either we let it rip thru the population and we have untold deaths or let it slowly infect the population at a rate the ICUs can handle and that could take years.

So how about this. Instead of having reasonably strict lock-downs and making everybody reasonably miserable for a long time, why don't we go into a HYPER lock-down, and by lock-down I mean locked-the-bugger-down.

First what we need is to raise an army of workers to deliver food packages and medicine and other essentials. All free, all paid for in lieu of the current Govt payments. All the necessities of life will be free for 6 weeks. It won't be gourmet fare, but we'll all make do.

Police and ADF would partol the streets and anyone caught out with a reason which is less than a life or death emergency goes directly to quarantine camp, then 5 years prison when it's over.

After 3 weeks the ADF, police and essential service workers go into quarantine and are replaced by a group who've been waiting in quarantine and we carry on for another 3 weeks.

6 weeks of total misery vs an open ended period of misery.

The problem is all that does is delay the inevitable.

Could we burn it out if the lock-down was tight enough?

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chimera Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 8639 armidale Gender:	Re: Can we burn this out? Reply #6 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:17pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:08pm: Thats why he said to supply the food first Spot Where ? And what does it mean?
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Reply #7 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:18pm

chimera wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:08pm:

Thats why he said to supply the food first

Spot

Where ? And what does it mean?

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First what we need is to raise an army of workers to deliver food packages and medicine and other essentials. All free, all paid for in lieu of the current Govt payments. All the necessities of life will be free for 6 weeks. It won't be gourmet fare, but we'll all make do.

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aquascoot Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 32848 Gender:	Re: Can we burn this out? Reply #8 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:21pm gordon, the simple answer is yes but then are we to have no more flights into australia, are we to have no more constainer ships with crew. also some people cannot stay home. power workers,water workers, sewerage workers , emergency services, people who care for the old and disabled. they cant be welded into their houses
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Reply #9 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:26pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:21pm:

gordon, the simple answer is yes but then are we to have no more flights into australia, are we to have no more constainer ships with crew.

also some people cannot stay home.

power workers,water workers, sewerage workers , emergency services, people who care for the old and disabled.
they cant be welded into their houses

He explained that one too

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PS stop making me defend gordon! It makes my teeth hurt

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Reply #10 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:28pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:11pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 1:55pm:

I heard a senior epidemiologist on ABC radio today and his outlook was very very bleak.

Either we let it rip thru the population and we have untold deaths or let it slowly infect the population at a rate the ICUs can handle and that could take years.

So how about this. Instead of having reasonably strict lock-downs and making everybody reasonably miserable for a long time, why don't we go into a HYPER lock-down, and by lock-down I mean locked-the-bugger-down.

First what we need is to raise an army of workers to deliver food packages and medicine and other essentials. All free, all paid for in lieu of the current Govt payments. All the necessities of life will be free for 6 weeks. It won't be gourmet fare, but we'll all make do.

Police and ADF would partol the streets and anyone caught out with a reason which is less than a life or death emergency goes directly to quarantine camp, then 5 years prison when it's over.

After 3 weeks the ADF, police and essential service workers go into quarantine and are replaced by a group who've been waiting in quarantine and we carry on for another 3 weeks.

6 weeks of total misery vs an open ended period of misery.

The problem is all that does is delay the inevitable.

Could we burn it out if the lock-down was tight enough?

Only if the borders stay closed and 100% of people do the right thing, something we've seen to be impossible with the number of dickheads in this country who think like Scoot.

Again we all have to suffer because of the worst members of society.

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Reply #11 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:31pm

aquascoot wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:21pm:

gordon, the simple answer is yes but then are we to have no more flights into australia, are we to have no more constainer ships with crew.

also some people cannot stay home.

power workers,water workers, sewerage workers , emergency services, people who care for the old and disabled.
they cant be welded into their houses

Cargo is kept in quarantine. We're a net food exporter so if it's perishable, bad luck.

All emergency workers would need full PPE and would be sent to quarantine half way thru the process and replaced by others.

If we could burn this out Australia could open for tourism. Tourists arrive, go into 3 weeks guarded lock-down then can mingle.

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Reply #12 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:35pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:11pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 1:55pm:

I heard a senior epidemiologist on ABC radio today and his outlook was very very bleak.

Either we let it rip thru the population and we have untold deaths or let it slowly infect the population at a rate the ICUs can handle and that could take years.

So how about this. Instead of having reasonably strict lock-downs and making everybody reasonably miserable for a long time, why don't we go into a HYPER lock-down, and by lock-down I mean locked-the-bugger-down.

First what we need is to raise an army of workers to deliver food packages and medicine and other essentials. All free, all paid for in lieu of the current Govt payments. All the necessities of life will be free for 6 weeks. It won't be gourmet fare, but we'll all make do.

Police and ADF would partol the streets and anyone caught out with a reason which is less than a life or death emergency goes directly to quarantine camp, then 5 years prison when it's over.

After 3 weeks the ADF, police and essential service workers go into quarantine and are replaced by a group who've been waiting in quarantine and we carry on for another 3 weeks.

6 weeks of total misery vs an open ended period of misery.

The problem is all that does is delay the inevitable.

Could we burn it out if the lock-down was tight enough?

I don't think so, because the problem then becomes do we lock down from overseas as well? All the models about lock down I have seen only work if the lock down is prolonged. AS soon as you end it the peak returns a coupld of months down the track

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Reply #13 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:35pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:31pm:

aquascoot wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:21pm:

gordon, the simple answer is yes but then are we to have no more flights into australia, are we to have no more constainer ships with crew.

also some people cannot stay home.

power workers,water workers, sewerage workers , emergency services, people who care for the old and disabled.
they cant be welded into their houses

Cargo is kept in quarantine. We're a net food exporter so if it's perishable, bad luck.

All emergency workers would need full PPE and would be sent to quarantine half way thru the process and replaced by others.

If we could burn this out Australia could open for tourism. Tourists arrive, go into 3 weeks guarded lock-down then can mingle.

gordo

you are a thorrough man,
but who would want a holiday that starts with 3 weeks of expensive solitary confinement Undecided

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Re: Can we burn this out?
Reply #14 - Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:45pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:18pm:

chimera wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:17pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 8^th, 2020 at 2:08pm:

Thats why he said to supply the food first

Spot

Where ? And what does it mean?

Quote:

First what we need is to raise an army of workers to deliver food packages and medicine and other essentials. All free, all paid for in lieu of the current Govt payments. All the necessities of life will be free for 6 weeks. It won't be gourmet fare, but we'll all make do.

Spot

No that does not answer either question.
And who keeps the supply ready for the end of the 6 weeks?

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