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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:08am Trump is a sure thing to win the Nobel Prize in Medicine for his pioneering work in prescribing the drug hydroxychloroquine.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #1 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:09am Has he invented a new date rape drug?
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #2 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:55am John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:09am: Has he invented a new date rape drug? An Alpha like Trump doesn't need a date rape drug, right Aqua?
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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92279 Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #3 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:29am AiA wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:08am: Trump is a sure thing to win the Nobel Prize in Medicine for his pioneering work in prescribing the drug hydroxychloroquine. I agree, A. Maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. We'll have to wait and see, no?
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46487 Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #4 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:31am You guys hang around the idea and thought of Trump like Flies to a Turd.
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Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine
Reply #5 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:32am

AiA wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:55am:

John Smith wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:09am:

Has he invented a new date rape drug?

An Alpha like Trump doesn't need a date rape drug, right Aqua?

No no, an Alpha stallion like Mr Trump has the RIGHT to use a date-rape drug.

Some of the fillies might squirm a bit. Best to put them out of their misery.

We genuflect before our fridges and weep tears of pure gratitude for drugs like this.

Just think, for centuries Alphas had to ply their fillies with alcohol instead.

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Mattyfisk Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 92279 Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #6 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:37am Jasin wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:31am: You guys hang around the idea and thought of Trump like Flies to a Turd. Cometh the hour, JaSin. Mr Trump may well have the cure. Or maybe he won't. We'll have to wait and see.
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greggerypeccary Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 131486 Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #7 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:46am Jasin wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:31am: You guys hang around the idea and thought of Trump like Flies to a Turd. Excellent description.
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Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine
Reply #8 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:31pm

Has anyone bothered to check why he's pimping that drug?

We know Trump is the most transparent person every, always saying the quiet parts out loud etc, so surely he doesn't have noble intentions here right?

Or is this the one time he's bothered to do the right thing?

Yeah, I doubt that.

So let's start by looking into the drug and who manufactures it. One of the biggest manufactures is Novartis. They've been pimping the drug almost as much as Trump,

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Novartis CEO says Malaria drug is biggest hope against coronavirus

Novartis Chief Executive Vas Narasimhan said his Sandoz generics unit's malaria, lupus and arthritis drug hydroxychloroquine is the company's biggest hope against the coronavirus.

"Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the coronavirus,"

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That's good news, but anyone paying attention that what seems like a lifetime ago now when Michael Cohen was giving evidence, this should ring alarm bells.

Cohen said,

Quote:

Trump ex-lawyer Cohen: drugmaker Novartis wanted him to lobby, he refused

U.S. President Donald Trump’s former personal attorney Michael Cohen testified on Wednesday that Swiss drugmaker Novartis AG initially wanted him to lobby for the company when it retained him with a $1.2 million contract, but that Cohen refused.

“Novartis sent me their contract, which stated specifically that they wanted me to lobby. That they wanted me to provide access to government, including the president, “ Cohen said.

“That paragraph was crossed out by me, initialed, and written in my own handwriting that says I will not lobby or do government relations work,” he told members of the House Oversight Committee.

Novartis is one of several companies that paid Cohen through his firm Essential Consultants after Trump was elected in order to glean more insight into Trump’s administration.

When news of those payments came to light last year, the drugmaker’s ex-chief executive said the contract was a mistake and he should have tried to fire Cohen in March of 2017.

Cohen testified on Wednesday that he had offered Novartis in-person and telephone access “whenever they needed,” and estimated he spoke with the company about six times.

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So Cohen took the money and claims to have not done any lobbying, but now we see Trump not only pimping the drug, committing to buying it and stopping reporters asking Dr Fauci questions about it during their press conferences, he's doing all of this before there is even any proof that it will work.

Coincidentally the drug happens to be made by the same company that paid $1.2 million for access to the President?

As the saying goes (and QTards love to repeat), How many coincidences have to happen before it's no longer a coincidence?

I don't have any more information than what is publically available, but it certainly warrants investigating further by someone with power or even actual access to information, not google warriors like me.

I wonder when Trump first Tweeted about the drug..?

I think it was around the 21st of March right?

Interesting.

Coincidence?

Edit: in case it's not clear, I'm asking, is Trump the continually corrupt businessman, taking money, enriching himself, in return for recommending this Drug?

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #9 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:34pm Not at all, had read somewhere basically its CEOs going to Jared and then Jared goes to Donald.
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Jasin Gold Member Offline Posts: 46487 Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #10 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:46am: Jasin wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 11:31am: You guys hang around the idea and thought of Trump like Flies to a Turd. Excellent description. And you're a maggot enriched blowfly who can't keep away from it.
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Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine
Reply #11 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:01pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 12:31pm:

Has anyone bothered to check why he's pimping that drug?

We know Trump is the most transparent person every, always saying the quiet parts out loud etc, so surely he doesn't have noble intentions here right?

Or is this the one time he's bothered to do the right thing?

Yeah, I doubt that.

So let's start by looking into the drug and who manufactures it. One of the biggest manufactures is Novartis. They've been pimping the drug almost as much as Trump,

Quote:

Novartis CEO says Malaria drug is biggest hope against coronavirus

Novartis Chief Executive Vas Narasimhan said his Sandoz generics unit's malaria, lupus and arthritis drug hydroxychloroquine is the company's biggest hope against the coronavirus.

"Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the coronavirus,"

Link

That's good news, but anyone paying attention that what seems like a lifetime ago now when Michael Cohen was giving evidence, this should ring alarm bells.

Cohen said,

Quote:

Trump ex-lawyer Cohen: drugmaker Novartis wanted him to lobby, he refused

U.S. President Donald Trump’s former personal attorney Michael Cohen testified on Wednesday that Swiss drugmaker Novartis AG initially wanted him to lobby for the company when it retained him with a $1.2 million contract, but that Cohen refused.

“Novartis sent me their contract, which stated specifically that they wanted me to lobby. That they wanted me to provide access to government, including the president, “ Cohen said.

“That paragraph was crossed out by me, initialed, and written in my own handwriting that says I will not lobby or do government relations work,” he told members of the House Oversight Committee.

Novartis is one of several companies that paid Cohen through his firm Essential Consultants after Trump was elected in order to glean more insight into Trump’s administration.

When news of those payments came to light last year, the drugmaker’s ex-chief executive said the contract was a mistake and he should have tried to fire Cohen in March of 2017.

Cohen testified on Wednesday that he had offered Novartis in-person and telephone access “whenever they needed,” and estimated he spoke with the company about six times.

Link

So Cohen took the money and claims to have not done any lobbying, but now we see Trump not only pimping the drug, committing to buying it and stopping reporters asking Dr Fauci questions about it during their press conferences, he's doing all of this before there is even any proof that it will work.

Coincidentally the drug happens to be made by the same company that paid $1.2 million for access to the President?

As the saying goes (and QTards love to repeat), How many coincidences have to happen before it's no longer a coincidence?

I don't have any more information than what is publically available, but it certainly warrants investigating further by someone with power or even actual access to information, not google warriors like me.

I wonder when Trump first Tweeted about the drug..?

I think it was around the 21st of March right?

https://i.imgur.com/QVX0epy.png

Interesting.

Coincidence?

Edit: in case it's not clear, I'm asking, is Trump the continually corrupt businessman, taking money, enriching himself, in return for recommending this Drug?

Not at all, dear, it comes from Rudy. He told Mr Trump all about this drug after Mr Trump saw it on TV.

Rudy also told Hannity, who put it on TV.

Cunning, no?

Now remember, Rudy has integrity. He's the best mayor New York ever had, believe me. He even took on the Mafia. There's no money in it for Rudy, it's just a favour for a friend.

Now I ask you, what's wrong with that? Mr Trump has been clear all along: maybe it'll work, maybe it won't. Mr Trump might take it himself, or maybe not. We'll have to wait and see.

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Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine
Reply #12 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:09pm

AiA wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 9:08am:

Trump is a sure thing to win the Nobel Prize in Medicine for his pioneering work in prescribing the drug hydroxychloroquine.

Not if things like this keep happening:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1586202999/39#39

Mr. Trump needs to keep his mouth shut and also stay off Twitter and leave this to the medical experts.

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Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine
Reply #13 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:12pm

trump recognises the importance of "hope'.

does a doctor say to a patient

"you have terminal cancer, heres a catalogue of urns you might find useful".

No.

he says "you have a "growth" and we are going to "treat" it".

for some cancers, chemo is little more then an expensive placebo but the doctors confident demeanour IS the drug.

the noble donald is offering this same sort of placebo effect to the frightened citizens.
trump knows there is no treatment but he offers his mood od confidence to sooth the frazzled nerves .

poor boris.....other world leaders offering their pity.
the noble donald , offering hope with his "fighting words".

donald is the reincarnation of churchill circa 1940

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: Trump to Win Nobel Prize in Medicine Reply #14 - Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:13pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 2:12pm: for some cancers, chemo is little more then an expensive placebo b Which cancers.
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