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Pell appeal
Apr 6th, 2020 at 10:24pm
 
With all the COVID stuff going on I forgot that tomorrow, the bench will deliver the appeal decision.
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Reply #1 - Apr 6th, 2020 at 11:17pm
 
He will probably get off.
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Reply #2 - Apr 6th, 2020 at 11:48pm
 
my thought is he deserves another trial....hes rather old so yes he could get off..... but not in the court of public opinion and I think thats where he would want it..
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Reply #3 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 1:30am
 
Sorry - but I still don't think that evading and side-tracking knowledge of paedophile activity is the same as actually doing it.  In THIS legal system, only the charge can be answered....and I still say there is not sufficient evidence to convict him of personal paedophile actions.

If there is a charge for condoning, aiding and abetting - charge him with that and get on with it.

Somewhere the Church has to accept responsibility for the evils of its priests - and accept responsibility  for not acting......

Now is about the time... but not with Pell.... not on that evidence.
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Reply #4 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 9:54am
 
he wasnt the POPE he wasnt instructing all Bishops to cover it up.. he was doing what every other Bishop was doing around the world  Protecting the Church..

now of course everyone of us know the appalling damage that eventuated   but really its the Vatican that should be on trial...

I dont seriously believe this man is/was a paedo.....I dont know why but I dont...did he cover up  of course he did...not for his own benefit though......I believe if he was, another Priest especially one who had been charged and found guilty would has pointed to him....

even priest dont like going down alone if they can help it..

the evidence in his trial was so flaky

it will be interesting to see what these judges have to say about it.
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Reply #5 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 9:55am
 
cods wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 9:54am:
he was doing what every other Bishop was doing around the world Protecting the Church..



surely you meant to say 'protecting the pedo's'
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Reply #6 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:03am
 
Don't overlook the opportunists who make false claims in the hope of getting financial rewards.

It is easy to make a false claim and hard to defeat it especially a long time ago.

Recall that sheila who claimed Bill Shorten raped her - she was possibly hoping for some reward. In the end Bill had high power lawyers who reduced it all to he said she said.

So Pell's legal eagles will be probably doing the same.
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Reply #7 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:05am
 
juliar wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:03am:
Don't overlook the opportunists who make false claims in the hope of getting financial rewards.

It is easy to make a false claim and hard to defeat it especially a long time ago.

Recall that sheila who claimed Bill Shorten raped her - she was possibly hoping for some reward. In the end Bill had high power lawyers who reduced it all to he said she said.

So Pell's legal eagles will be probably doing the same.



OUt of curiosity juliar, did you see Revelations last week by any chance?
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #8 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:09am
 
he is released from prison

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Reply #9 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:21am
 
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Reply #10 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:32am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:21am:
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How many people here won't accept the ruling?

I'm curious.
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Reply #11 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:35am
 
Greggy is being dark and devious.

The law is the law.  Has Pelly got the virus yet ?

BH,  is that the Revelations sermon ScoMo gave ?
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Reply #12 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:53am
 
juliar wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:35am:
Greggy is being dark and devious.

The law is the law.  Has Pelly got the virus yet ?

BH,  is that the Revelations sermon ScoMo gave ?



The law is the law

Amazing how that statement gets thrown out now its gone your way.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #13 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 3:44pm
 
Won't Tony Abbott be thrilled ?
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Reply #14 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 3:52pm
 
juliar wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 3:44pm:
Won't Tony Abbott be thrilled ?


And Johnnie Howard !  Grin
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Reply #15 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:29pm
 
well I see that arsey has highjacked your thread..

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Reply #16 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:47pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:53am:
juliar wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:35am:
Greggy is being dark and devious.

The law is the law.  Has Pelly got the virus yet ?

BH,  is that the Revelations sermon ScoMo gave ?



The law is the law

Amazing how that statement gets thrown out now its gone your way.



  7 judges to 0...

no ifs or buts..

if 7 judges pronounced him guilty it would be the same..

those who disagree would have to suck it up....they know more about the law than we do..
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Reply #17 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:50pm
 
Except they agreed with me.

Grin Cheesy Grin
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Aussie wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:50pm:
Except they agreed with me.

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if you are talking about the 7 judges   do they read ozpol???>.. Roll Eyes
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Reply #19 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:57pm
 
to be honest I am a bit shocked how many people cannot find fault with that trial...

it was a shocker Ned Kelly would have been spinning I am sure...
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Reply #20 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 6:04pm
 
cods wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:50pm:
Except they agreed with me.

Grin Cheesy Grin



if you are talking about the 7 judges   do they read ozpol???>.. Roll Eyes


I am sure they don't.  But, it is inarguable that seven High Court Judges have agreed with me.
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Reply #21 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 8:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:32am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 10:21am:
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How many people here won't accept the ruling?

I'm curious.

No, you are a crappy turd, Turd.  You just call your affliction 'curiosity'.   You are just a devious lying turd. Not curious.




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Reply #22 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 11:30am
 
Andrew Bolt on Pell: Shame, Shame on so many
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Cardinal George Pell “should never have been convicted” with his persecution representing “one of this nation’s greatest miscarriages of justice,” according to Sky News host Andrew Bolt.

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Mr Bolt said a “witch hunt” has permeated facets of society against the Cardinal, which has subsequently “ruined his reputation, destroyed his brilliant career” and “robbed him” of his freedom.

On Tuesday, Cardinal Pell had his sexual abuse conviction overturned by Australia’s highest court, in a unanimous decision, after having spent 405 days in jail following an initial ruling which had found him guilty in 2018.

Cardinal Pell had come out and said he holds “no ill will toward my accuser” adding “I don’t want my acquittal to add to the hurt and bitterness so many feel; there is certainly hurt and bitterness enough”.

Mr Bolt said shame should fall upon the “state institutions which tried so destroy a man loathed by the Left as a conservative and chosen by the mob to be the scapegoat for his church.”

“Shame also on the ABC, our national broadcaster, for hysterically promoting damaging claims against Pell that all turned out to be too absurd to lead to charges, or too flimsy to go to trial, or now, too weak to survive an appeal”.

Mr Bolt also showed a recreation of the alleged timeline of events which were levelled against Cardinal Pell saying, “neither Pell, the supposed criminal, nor his victims could have been at the scene of the crime at the only time the crime was possible”. “It seems the High Court agreed”.

Source: Andrew Bolt, Sky News

VIDEO: Will Pelly get even:-
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Leftist media saturates the news. Fight back. Send articles to your friends, politicians, local media, and facebook.

https://morningmail.org/andrew-bolt-on-pell-shame-shame-on-so-many/#more-114850

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Lorraine 08/04/2020, 8:25 am
am not the biggest fan of Andrew Bolt, But in the case of George Pell I was always convinced it was a set up by the left. At the time of the first appeal and the hatred and the pile on , the trolling of posts on F/B. I have watched over the years the Labour Party and the ABC bend every which way to damn the Catholic church, I felt that George Pell was to be the ultimate ginny pig to wear the blame for every dirty priests goings on, in the past, I was born into a Methodist family , a great Grandfather in Parliament , my family a political hub. and I remember the talks by Bob Santamare (I have misspelt his name) The Catholics were urged to vote against the Labor Party back then when there were reds under the bed, and so many were communists….There has be a hate filled ,raged by Labor ,and the left from that time forward The ABC and Sarah Ferguson should be ashamed, of course with the left the end justifies the means…..will they give up no they will not , but every time that justice prevails ,we can call ourselves lucky….by the way luck and the Law freed George Pell


Lorraine 08/04/2020, 8:36 am
Bob Santamaria. is the correct spelling I looked it up


ibbit 08/04/2020, 8:45 am
I never believed Cardinal Pell was guilty of what he was charged with and so it has proved.
The first instance of “get Pell” the swimming pool affair, saw the journalist Borngorno, Pell’s room mate at the time, say he never saw anything untoward in Pell’s conduct. His voice was heard one time only as far as I remember.
Good on Andrew Bolt for his unfaltering support of Pell, he is to be congratulated for that.
And what a disgrace it is to see the hands of an innocent old man cuffed as in the photo supporting the next article.
Many have much to apologise for, but it is safe to say there will be no apologies, but certainly more vilification led by that great moral outfit OUR ABC who should be de-funded and dissolved – permanently.


Aktosplatz 08/04/2020, 10:05 am
George Pell publicly spoke out against the Global Warming Scam (as did Andrew Bolt) and so he became a marked man for the Left in VictoriaStan.
Congratulations to Andrew Bolt for his courage.


Margaret 08/04/2020, 10:41 am
ABC must apologise or lose all government funding.
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Reply #23 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 7:44pm
 
...
You can almost hear the angels singing.
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Reply #24 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 8:42pm
 
Cabbie and  Pecker are Bolt fans. Didn't see that coming.
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Reply #25 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 8:47pm
 
Aussie wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 6:04pm:
cods wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:50pm:
Except they agreed with me.

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if you are talking about the 7 judges   do they read ozpol???>.. Roll Eyes


I am sure they don't.  But, it is inarguable that seven High Court Judges have agreed with me.



No - the High Court Judges agreed with me.

Without their verdict it would have meant that anyone
could make up a bullshit story about someone else -
with no physical evidence  and
no corroborating evidence from another witness -
and have them sent to jail for years.

It should never have gone to court and was
actually a witch hunt.
The resources should have been better spent on more worthwhile cases.
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Reply #26 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 8:50pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 8th, 2020 at 8:47pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 6:04pm:
cods wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:56pm:
Aussie wrote on Apr 7th, 2020 at 5:50pm:
Except they agreed with me.

Grin Cheesy Grin



if you are talking about the 7 judges   do they read ozpol???>.. Roll Eyes


I am sure they don't.  But, it is inarguable that seven High Court Judges have agreed with me.



No - the High Court Judges agreed with me.

Without their verdict it would have meant that anyone
could make up a bullshit story about someone else -
with no physical evidence  and
no corroborating evidence from another witness -
and have them sent to jail for years.

It should never have gone to court and was
actually a witch hunt.

The resources should have been better spent on more worthwhile cases.


Yep.
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Reply #27 - Apr 8th, 2020 at 8:56pm
 
Pecker and Cabbie's cause celebres- Gerard Baden-Clay, Brett Cowan, George Pell and Richard Nixon. Scratch the last one.
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