Gnads wrote on Apr 6^th, 2020 at 1:40pm:



then it's no different to changing the clocks.

John Smith wrote on Apr 6^th, 2020 at 1:42pm:


Yeah it is.... you don't change the clocks

you still have that extra time of light in the arvo

& you're never late for your P&C meeting at 7.30pm.

cods wrote on Apr 6^th, 2020 at 10:46am:


Queensland law do not allow workplaces to keep 15-year-olds working beyond 10pm. If we start someone working a 3-hour shift at 6pm, and we get hit with orders that require a late rush period, we have to hold back the elder staff another half hour or so after close to do the remainder of the cleaning. That might not seem like much for various stores. But when the store earns less than $2 million in sales per year, all the overheads and overtime and food and equipment do add up to a couple hundred per day extra in either wasted extra hourly wages.

And we are not dealing with different time zones just over the border where I live. That is irrelevant to the issue. The point is that you are not going to order your dinner when the sun is still well in the afternoon sky. Heck, I was not going to mow the yard until 5pm yesterday because it was still too hot before then. I doubt very much that people will want to order dinner until at least the sun is lower in the sky.

By the way, to answer your question, I have flown twice. But, I have not left the state. Some people are not as privileged as other people to afford distance travel, or even to do it often.

And I remember the hassles that daylight saving time caused in Qld during the late 1980s and early 1990s. Sure, we can adjust getting up with the sun at 5:30am instead of 4:30am. But it is an annoyance having the sun setting at 8pm and sometimes at 8:30pm during hot summer months. I remember the 8pm sunsets and having dinner after then. I suppose anyone living in Melbourne, Adelaide and Hobart would have it worse being that they are closer to the Arctic Circle than most Australians. But it would not matter to them with those areas being mild of summer.

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 6^th, 2020 at 9:06pm:



Umm .... well yeah .. I know what the reasoning is. & stuff the "office" yuppies... they aren't the only workers & definitely more are working differing hours, shift & broken shift work.

The world doesn't revolve around them.

But all that needs to happen is earlier start times for business & schools .....

not the putting clocks ahead an hour so they think they are going to school, work etc. at the usual times.

In fact with schools ... 3pm DLS time is the hottest part of the day(2pm) in summer.

If people actually work around a daily schedule for their lives ..... that so called extra time gets wasted because meals have to be prepared, homework done etc. so kids go to bed at a reasonable hour...... not 10 & 11pm.

In QLD it's daylight/twighlight until 7 pm normal EST time.

Surely if Dad or Mum knock off at 4pm or 5pm that's plenty of daylight time to spend with the kids in the yard in arvo. or where ever.

Surely you can play 18 holes in 2 hours ... you can certainly do 9.

The whinge about aligning business hours on the East Coast is a furphy.

They are aligned until NSW & Victoria cause the problem.

The SE corner of QLD is the problem - Sunshine Coast to Brisbane & Gold Coast.

Ahoy lad .... cast them adrift.

Daylight saving was first introduced, like licensing hours in World War One to allow the factories to work longer and to keep the workers out of the pubs.  It worked then and allowed the UK to win World War One.  The extra hour of sunlight was appreciated and it continued on into World War Two and beyond.   

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 7^th, 2020 at 5:31pm:


My late childhood years and just before my teen years were spent with daylight saving experience. I recall going for a drive to the restaurant with the family. It was 7pm and the sun was still out like it was 5pm (non-DLS time April). We all agreed with each other that DLS was a real waste of time when it came to the evening meal times.

I recall before Dad got the back steps covered with shades, Dad had a thing about needing the back door closed to prevent the sunlight blaring in at 6pm. It would be 7pm or even 8pm when the blinding sunlight was shining into the dining room. Back then, the door was left open because we did not have fans or airconditioning to alleviate the heat.

The worst part about daylight saving was the start. The best being when it finished. We got to sleep in an hour at the end of the period. But, we would lose an hour's sleep at the start of DLS.

Even today, I am up until 9pm before I start my meals (unless I have to eat at 3pm before work). But, with the change in time for DLS, I would imagine that trying to get your children in bed for an 8pm bedtime would cause a lot of trouble. "Why do we have to go to bed when the sun is still out?" the children would say.

Oh, the only reason for DLS is to let the privilged 9 to 5 workers have an extra hour in the afternoon to do things that they would otherwise do on their day off. The problem being that most 9 to 5pm workers like to go indoors during their home period. So, it is largely worthless.