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Reply #240 - Apr 10^th, 2020 at 7:11pm

cods wrote on Apr 10^th, 2020 at 6:31pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 10^th, 2020 at 6:24pm:

World To End Tomorrow: Women, Minorities Hardest Hit

its always the way frank.....women are expendable Roll Eyes

marriage is a good example of how they get discarded for a better brighter younger model....

not forgetting the rats that kill their partners...they get jail then they are released to do it all over again.. Roll Eyes

That's the BETA Male there Cods.
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Reply #241 - Apr 11^th, 2020 at 10:54am

See, the thing about repressive regimes and the truth... I guess for them its 'war all the time' so truth takes a back seat.

Top 10 countries > 20000 confirmed cases and reporting recoveries

Country                %Recovered

China (mainland) 95
Iran                         52
Switzerland          45
Spain                35
Germany                34
France                27
Belgium                21
Italy                         21
United States          6

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40427 Gender:	Re: The CCP Disease Reply #242 - Apr 11^th, 2020 at 4:11pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 5^th, 2020 at 9:00pm: do you think chinese people fear the military or feel patriotic fervour? i think the latter You know it's the soundtrack of a video game, don't you?
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Reply #243 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 10:13am

You can't say the CCP didn't warn us...

'Unrestricted Warfare' by Qiao Liang and Wang Xiangsui (written in 1999) https://www.cryptome.org/cuw.htm

A quote from Qiao Liang "the first rule of unrestricted warfare is that there are no rules, with nothing forbidden."

The authors were Colonels at the time... Qiao Liang went on to become a Major General in the PLA Air Force. Wang Xiangsui is a professor at Beihang University and a retired senior Colonel.

At the very least, its title has the ominous echoes of Joseph Goebbels 'Total War' speech... "It bothers us not in the least that our enemies abroad claim that our total war measures resemble those of Bolshevism".... So Goebbels, himself, ultimately saw no difference in intent between Stalinism and National Socialism.

Its true that the CCP did not invent this virus... What the CCP did was ensure that if China was going to go down (even if of their own making), then so was the world...

The WHO aided this by confirming (falsely, obviously) that human-to-human transfer was not a problem and that no country need restrict Chinese travel around the world.

Totalitarian regimes are unreformable... Appeasement only makes them worse and only advances their self-perception that they are on the right trajectory to achieve their imagined 'victory'.

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Reply #244 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:07am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

You can't say the CCP didn't warn us...

A quote from Qiao Liang "the first rule of unrestricted warfare is that there are no rules, with nothing forbidden.".. their self-perception that they are on the right trajectory to achieve their imagined 'victory'.

US dropped 2.1m. tons of bombs in WWII and managed to get to 7.5m. for carpet-bombing Vietnam . Size matters.

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34499 Gender:	Re: The CCP Disease Reply #245 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:18am NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 10:13am: Its true that the CCP did not invent this virus... What the CCP did was ensure that if China was going to go down (even if of their own making), then so was the world... They did? How did they ensure it?
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Reply #246 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:19am

chimera wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

You can't say the CCP didn't warn us...

A quote from Qiao Liang "the first rule of unrestricted warfare is that there are no rules, with nothing forbidden.".. their self-perception that they are on the right trajectory to achieve their imagined 'victory'.

US dropped 2.1m. tons of bombs in WWII and managed to get to 7.5m. for carpet-bombing Vietnam . Size matters.

So you're now justifying the CCP and WHO cover-up, then?

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Reply #247 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:18am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

Its true that the CCP did not invent this virus... What the CCP did was ensure that if China was going to go down (even if of their own making), then so was the world...

They did? How did they ensure it?

They allowed many thousands of Wuhan residents to leave Wuhan for destinations around parts of China and the world (some just to travel and some as workers)... Iran was one of the first countries to be struck down (although they too tried to cover up the extent of the damage), then Italy...

You could almost map where the CCP allowed Chinese (particularly Wuhan) residents to travel to by the identification of the virus's multiple epicentres outside of that city.

Then they went to great lengths to silence the WHO on the dangers.

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Reply #248 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:28am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am:

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:18am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

Its true that the CCP did not invent this virus... What the CCP did was ensure that if China was going to go down (even if of their own making), then so was the world...

They did? How did they ensure it?

They allowed many thousands of Wuhan residents to leave Wuhan for destinations around parts of China and the world (some just to travel and some as workers)... Iran was one of the first countries to be struck down (although they too tried to cover up the extent of the damage), then Italy...

You could almost map where the CCP allowed Chinese (particularly Wuhan) residents to travel to by the identification of the virus's multiple epicentres outside of that city.

Okay, so just following that theory and stepping neatly over the more obvious premise that they simply didn't know what they were dealing with in the early stages, to what end did China release a bug that only takes out 2% of the population?

Do you think they foresaw societal collapse? Thought they'd be ready to swoop in on the returning wave towards world domination or something?

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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 34499 Gender:	Re: The CCP Disease Reply #249 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:29am Hold the phone .. went to great lengths to silence the WHO? Oh please, tell me more.
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Reply #250 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:32am

"US dropped 2.1m. tons of bombs in WWII and managed to get to 7.5m. for carpet-bombing Vietnam . Size matters."

"So you're now justifying the CCP and WHO cover-up, then?"

Absolutely. The US had no right to drop napalm on Wuhan fish market and the World Health virus factory. CCP warned us about napalm burning the fish and chips. Mao's take-away justifies boiling bats , pangolins and Chiko rolls.

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Reply #251 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:38am

chimera wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:32am:

"US dropped 2.1m. tons of bombs in WWII and managed to get to 7.5m. for carpet-bombing Vietnam . Size matters."

"So you're now justifying the CCP and WHO cover-up, then?"

Absolutely. The US had no right to drop napalm on Wuhan fish market and the World Health virus factory. CCP warned us about napalm burning the fish and chips. Mao's take-away justifies boiling bats , pangolins and Chiko rolls.

Never understood why people get squeamish about other cultures eating other animals while they happily chow down on a chiko roll ... or a meat pie or sausage roll for that matter.

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Reply #252 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:41am

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:28am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am:

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:18am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

Its true that the CCP did not invent this virus... What the CCP did was ensure that if China was going to go down (even if of their own making), then so was the world...

They did? How did they ensure it?

They allowed many thousands of Wuhan residents to leave Wuhan for destinations around parts of China and the world (some just to travel and some as workers)... Iran was one of the first countries to be struck down (although they too tried to cover up the extent of the damage), then Italy...

You could almost map where the CCP allowed Chinese (particularly Wuhan) residents to travel to by the identification of the virus's multiple epicentres outside of that city.

Okay, so just following that theory and stepping neatly over the more obvious premise that they simply didn't know what they were dealing with in the early stages, to what end did China release a bug that only takes out 2% of the population?

Do you think they foresaw societal collapse? Thought they'd be ready to swoop in on the returning wave towards world domination or something?

They would not have known what the casualty rate would ultimately be (no one does currently)... And its almost certain they didn't plan for this to happen.

However, they knew, (probably in late November but certainly by mid December) that, whatever this virus was, it would possibly be something like SARS1 with a massively more effective infection rate. SARS1 is likely to be significantly more lethal than this virus, but they didn't know that then.

The CCP's knowledge (and fear) was that if they warned the world early, then only China would be severely affected and a pandemic would likely have been averted.

They quickly subverted the WHO director-general, Tedros Adhanom, from doing his job and gave him the narrative that this was a nothing and it was business as usual... And he complied...

Totalitarians live for 'war all the time' and in a mindset of 'unrestricted war', the allowing of the virus to spread to their 'enemies', they will justify to themselves that these acts are 'all fair'.

While the Chinese people may be or become our friends, the CCP will always be an enemy to its people and the world.

That is the way of totalitarianism... And its unreformable.

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Reply #253 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:47am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:41am:

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:28am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:24am:

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:18am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

Its true that the CCP did not invent this virus... What the CCP did was ensure that if China was going to go down (even if of their own making), then so was the world...

They did? How did they ensure it?

They allowed many thousands of Wuhan residents to leave Wuhan for destinations around parts of China and the world (some just to travel and some as workers)... Iran was one of the first countries to be struck down (although they too tried to cover up the extent of the damage), then Italy...

You could almost map where the CCP allowed Chinese (particularly Wuhan) residents to travel to by the identification of the virus's multiple epicentres outside of that city.

Okay, so just following that theory and stepping neatly over the more obvious premise that they simply didn't know what they were dealing with in the early stages, to what end did China release a bug that only takes out 2% of the population?

Do you think they foresaw societal collapse? Thought they'd be ready to swoop in on the returning wave towards world domination or something?

They would not have known what the casualty rate would ultimately be (no one does currently)... And its almost certain they didn't plan for this to happen.

However, they knew, (probably in late November but certainly by mid December) that, whatever this virus was, it would possibly be something like SARS1 with a massively more effective infection rate. SARS1 is likely to be significantly more lethal than this virus, but they didn't know that then.

The CCP's knowledge (and fear) was that if they warned the world early, then only China would be severely affected and a pandemic would likely have been averted.

They quickly subverted the WHO director-general, Tedros Adhanom, from doing his job and gave him the narrative that this was a nothing and it was business as usual... And he complied...

Totalitarians live for 'war all the time' and in a mindset of 'unrestricted war', the allowing of the virus to spread to their 'enemies', they will justify to themselves that these acts are 'all fair'.

While the Chinese people may be or become our friends, the CCP will always be an enemy to its people and the world.

That is the way of totalitarianism... And its unreformable.

What evidence do you have that they suppressed the WHO?

Sorry dude but you're sounding kinda paranoid. You know the blaring difference between SARS and Covid, yeah?

Incubation time and mostly mild symptoms.

Certailny explains how the train ran away.

But i await your evidence on the willful and devious suppression of the WHO.

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Reply #254 - Apr 12^th, 2020 at 12:07pm

mothra wrote on Apr 12^th, 2020 at 11:47am:

Certailny explains how the train ran away.

It might... But it doesn't explain the need to cover anything up at all... If it was a nothing, then what is the need to cover it up?

Doctors in Wuhan went to great lengths and huge personal risk to inform the CCP authorities and were either, arrested or censured...

Taiwan, particularly, responded fast (as early as the 15th of January) having endured SARS1... Of course they know exactly the tactics and dangers of the CCP, so they're ahead of us on that.

As late as the first week of February 2020, Tedros Adhanom stated that there was no need for the world to take measures that "unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade" such as worldwide travel restrictions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tedros_Adhanom#COVID-19_and_relationship_with_Chin...

Then there's Tedros Adhanom's bizarre recent speech, starting out by insisting the world should not politicise this pandemic or score cheap points against other nations... Then 12-13 minutes in he goes on a self-piteous rant about how people have been calling him 'black' or a negro... No sooner does he get over that, at the 14:00 minute mark he singles out Taiwan as the source of the racist attacks 'on all Africans'... So no praise of Taiwan for responding quickly and averting a disaster, just an unproven slag off that someone called him 'black' and he thinks its from Taiwan.

A shortened version of his speech -

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