Guantanamo Bay

There's only one way to confront the CCP...

It's an old Reaganite policy... 'You may go no further at any price you can afford'...

Of course Reagan was challenging the USSR... A society already on the edge of bankruptcy...

The CCP needs to be confronted as a vastly more complex demon than Reagan had to stare down...

The world needs to 'dry out' from its addiction to Chinese slavery and money.

Once that is achieved, the CCP's influence will recede... Then, maybe, we can leave it to the Chinese people to deal with their psychopathic leadership.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 9^th, 2020 at 9:41pm:


north , regan could stare down the USSR becuase that communist regime was broke.
no one can stare down the chinese regime becuase it isnt communist.
it is brutally capitalist.
it is focused on wealth creation and market penetration and little else.
in fact, the chinese have been "paying attention" and have learned the  "rules of the game", succeeded at playing by "the rules of the game" and so are "true " by the rules of the game itself .


hating on china for dominating global markets is a closely related derangement syndrome to hating on trump for dominating american political markets

north...you have blinkers on


In recent decades, China’s suicide rate has declined more rapidly than any other country’s. It has fallen from among the world’s highest rates in the 1990s, to among the lowest — below the US and only slightly higher than the UK.



Rural women are responsible for the lion’s share of the decline.  Unlike in most countries, Chinese women have a higher suicide rate than Chinese men do and in rural areas women may be two to five times more likely to kill themselves than in cities.



What changed? In short, globalisation and labour market opportunities. The Economist published a graph showing how the dramatic decline in suicide coincided with more Chinese leaving rural areas to seek urban employment.

As more Chinese have left farms in the countryside to work in factory cities, the suicide rate has plummeted. This may be shocking to many people in rich countries. That is because many people who enjoy post-industrial prosperity worry about “sweatshop” conditions and exploitation in factories. They may also have an idealised opinion of rural peasant life, while a dark view of factory life popularised by Karl Marx is still surprisingly popular.



Marx thought that factory work was worse than farming because workers would be alienated from the product of their labour and exploited. Philosophy professor Nancy Holmstrom of Rutgers University shares his outlook. “The lives of subsistence peasants may be limited, but materially adequate and stable,” she claims. She believes that factory work has made workers worse off.



The fact that rural Chinese commit suicide at higher rates than urban Chinese would suggest otherwise. So would the fact of China’s dramatic decline in suicide as more and more rural Chinese choose to work in cities.



In reality, factory work is typically an improvement compared to poverty in the countryside. Factory conditions can be harsh and no one is claiming they should not improve. But far worse back-breaking labour and grinding poverty often define rural existence. The option of migrating to a city to take up factory work can be a lifeline to those contemplating suicide. Leaving behind rural farms for urban factory work typically translates into higher wages and a better standard of living.



It also can mean freedom from the more restrictive social norms of the countryside – particularly for women. Women “are more likely to value migration for its life-changing possibilities” than men, since gender roles are less limiting in cities than in the traditional countryside. That’s according to former Wall Street Journal reporter Leslie Chang in her book Factory Girls: From Village to City in a Changing China.

Similarly, The Telegraph‘s Yuan Ren ascribes the high rural suicide rate to harsh gender roles in the countryside: “Even today, many rural women are treated like second class citizens by their own family, subordinate to their fathers, brothers and – once married – their husband and mother-in-law.” A 2010 study found that whereas marriage has a “protective” effect against suicide in many countries, marriage may increase suicide risk among young rural Chinese women.



The author noted that “being married in rural Chinese culture usually… further limits [a woman’s] freedom” as a possible explanation for this. Escape from such gender roles helps explain why many women choose to migrate. Initially, Chinese society viewed factory work as shameful to a woman’s reputation and dangerous. Despite the social stigma, many women pursued factory work anyway and over time, migration to cities has become practically a rite of passage for rural Chinese.



Today, urban life affords factory workers – but particularly women – the promise of opportunity, economic mobility and freedom. As The Economist put it, “Moving to the cities to work… has been the salvation of many rural young women, liberating them.” Globalisation has, quite literally, saved many of their lives.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Apr 10^th, 2020 at 2:51pm:



um, thats going to impoverish about 200 million chinese who have moved to the city to work .

do you remember when Guess and Levi virtue signalled by closing their factories in bangladesh .

workers were crying because they had no income.

and corona virus will hit the poor much more then the rich western countries

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-bangladesh-workers/thousan...

The Chinese and their guts:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/fr758t/buffet_battle_in_china/