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Reply #45 - Mar 31^st, 2020 at 7:16am

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 10:22pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 9:08pm:

How about I quote Gandalf supporting genocide and let you figure it out all on your own? Would that make you happy?

Oh, of course, I love a good bit of genocide support, but that's just me.

But I'm curious. Why haven't you done that already?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464336968

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Re: FD Factcheck
Reply #46 - Mar 31^st, 2020 at 7:37am

freediver wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 7:16am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 10:22pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 9:08pm:

How about I quote Gandalf supporting genocide and let you figure it out all on your own? Would that make you happy?

Oh, of course, I love a good bit of genocide support, but that's just me.

But I'm curious. Why haven't you done that already?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464336968

Thanks, FD. Isn't that the statement you no longer support?

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Reply #47 - Mar 31^st, 2020 at 3:02pm

Are all muslims guilty of the horrendous crimes against humanity committed by those muslims who follow the verses of the qur'an which exhort muslims to perpetrate these atrocities?

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polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 2:05pm:
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Like I keep saying, it is reasonable to accuse them of collective guilt, since at any time any individual had the opportunity to disassociate themselves from the decisions made on behalf of the tribe.

All muslims know that the qur'an motivates the fundamentalist muslim to perpetrate his/her human rights atrocities.

They choose not to question or purge these evil verses from their qur'an, they choose to stay within the ranks of the death cult.

Therefore as our polite moderator says, they are collectively guilty of all atrocities committed by fellow muslims who follow these verses of evil.

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Re: FD Factcheck
Reply #48 - Mar 31^st, 2020 at 6:09pm

moses wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 3:02pm:

Are all muslims guilty of the horrendous crimes against humanity committed by those muslims who follow the verses of the qur'an which exhort muslims to perpetrate these atrocities?

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polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 2:05pm:
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Like I keep saying, it is reasonable to accuse them of collective guilt, since at any time any individual had the opportunity to disassociate themselves from the decisions made on behalf of the tribe.

All muslims know that the qur'an motivates the fundamentalist muslim to perpetrate his/her human rights atrocities.

They choose not to question or purge these evil verses from their qur'an, they choose to stay within the ranks of the death cult.

Therefore as our polite moderator says, they are collectively guilty of all atrocities committed by fellow muslims who follow these verses of evil.

But as FD points out [cited at the link below], the accusation [against a 'tribe' of people], made by gandalf, is targeted against those who ARE NOT moslems.

Because we see, in the example of the moslem daily [in the world], that this strong moral determination, being referred to by gandalf,
"of collective guilt",
should not apply to 'the moslem', to any moslem !

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"Every reference to "tribe" made by Gandalf below just happens to be a tribe of Jews."

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464336968/0#0

I think that interplay, is definitely a 'Got ya!' moment, against gandalf.

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Re: FD Factcheck
Reply #50 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 3:47pm

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 7:11am:

I only speak in facts Karnal. That's a fact.

FD only speaks in facts.

Like "all muslims support genocide"

This is a fact, although by FD's own admission it may not be a fact.

But he still says it, and insists it is true - while simultaneously agreeing it could be wrong. Pointing out this gobsmaking inconsistency is labelled by FD as a "muslim infallibility complex"

FD facts.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #51 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 4:47pm

moses wrote on Mar 31^st, 2020 at 3:02pm:

Are all muslims guilty of the horrendous crimes against humanity committed by those muslims who follow the verses of the qur'an which exhort muslims to perpetrate these atrocities?

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polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 6th, 2013 at 2:05pm:
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Like I keep saying, it is reasonable to accuse them of collective guilt, since at any time any individual had the opportunity to disassociate themselves from the decisions made on behalf of the tribe.

All muslims know that the qur'an motivates the fundamentalist muslim to perpetrate his/her human rights atrocities.

They choose not to question or purge these evil verses from their qur'an, they choose to stay within the ranks of the death cult.

Therefore as our polite moderator says, they are collectively guilty of all atrocities committed by fellow muslims who follow these verses of evil.

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Re: FD Factcheck
Reply #52 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 5:05pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 3:47pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 30^th, 2020 at 7:11am:

I only speak in facts Karnal. That's a fact.

FD only speaks in facts.

Like "all muslims support genocide"

This is a fact, although by FD's own admission it may not be a fact.

But he still says it, and insists it is true - while simultaneously agreeing it could be wrong. Pointing out this gobsmaking inconsistency is labelled by FD as a "muslim infallibility complex"

FD facts.

Do you still think it is theoretically impossible for you to be wrong unless you caveat what you say Gandalf?

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Re: FD Factcheck
Reply #53 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 5:54pm

freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 5:05pm:

Do you still think it is theoretically impossible for you to be wrong unless you caveat what you say Gandalf?

FD thinks this is a valid retort to anyone who points out the idiocy of stating "all muslims support genocide" is perfectly fine while simultaneously admitting it may not actually be true.

FD facts.

By the way FD, are you still claiming that saying "all muslims support genocide" is not stating something as fact? Your answer will be interesting in light of your latest humdinger "I only speak in facts".

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47367 At my desk.	Re: FD Factcheck Reply #54 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:12pm You realise you are unique in insisting you can never be wrong, don't you?
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47367 At my desk.	Re: FD Factcheck Reply #55 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:12pm Or should I say, you and your prophet.
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polite_gandalf Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20023 Canberra Gender:	Re: FD Factcheck Reply #56 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:39pm Apparently FD thinks that anyone who says its ridiculous to simultaneously state something as both true and possibly wrong at the same time is.... wait for it... insisting they are never wrong. And its a muslim thing, of course.
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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47367 At my desk.	Re: FD Factcheck Reply #57 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:42pm Do you still think it is theoretically impossible for you to be wrong unless you caveat what you say Gandalf?
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Re: FD Factcheck
Reply #58 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:51pm

freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:12pm:

You realise you are unique in insisting you can never be wrong, don't you?

So tell me FD, is your oft-cited claim "all muslims support genocide" one of these facts you insist you only speak in?

Or is it possibly wrong, which you have claimed several times now?

Or are you going to attempt a courageous argument that you can "speak in facts" that are at the same time utterly unverifiable and (by your own admission) quite possibly wrong?

Which is it FD? Try this time to answer without resorting to personal attacks. If you can.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 95276 Melbourne Gender:	Re: FD Factcheck Reply #59 - Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:52pm freediver wrote on Apr 2^nd, 2020 at 6:12pm: You realise you are unique in insisting you can never be wrong, don't you? Only one person in the entire world is infallible - that is the Pope.
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