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Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
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Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarantine

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Migrants Defy Coronavirus Quarantines Across Europe, Turn Violent

Germany, Hungary, Greece battle COVID-19 spread in migrants camps and communities

By: Jay Greenberg
19th March 2020

Migrants across Europe are defying quarantines set up by authorities to contain the spread of the deadly coronavirus, even turning violent to resist the measure in some cases.

In a migrant center in Suhl, Germany on Monday, roughly 30 migrants blocked the entrance to the dining area to protest against being kept under coronavirus quarantine.

The group even took a child hostage in the process, according to a report by the German news site Junge Freiheit.

The center currently provides a home for approximately 500 migrants.

The migrants quickly turned violent while reportedly waving an ISIS flag, threatening to burn the center down if they were not released.

Police were able to stop some leaving the building after they jumped over a fence.....

https://neonnettle.com/news/10681-migrants-defy-coronavirus-quarantines-across-e...

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"But we are poor, persecuted refugees!"

"We just want a safe place to live."

"Please let us come to live, in your peaceful land."

Time and time again, many of these people, prove and demonstrate, that they do not share our [cultural] values.

Particularly, the 'value' of a sense of civic responsibility.

But sadly, some of our own young people today too, show a similar lack of personal regard, for civic responsibility.

e.g.
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1584694796/0#0

QUESTION;
Is this the human psychology which we must all now expect to see, emerging in this generation of young adults ?

As a consequence of the 'ideals' of Socialism being indoctrinated into todays children, by our 'sick' and intellectually and morally inept ED system ?

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nihilism = = the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.

Wow.

What a Brave New World, those well meaning 'social engineers' have given to us !

O wonder!
How many goodly creatures are there here!
How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world,
That has such people in't.
- William Shakespeare, The Tempest,

And there are no differences - between men.

Each one of us, has the same worth, as his neighbour.

We are all equal.

....or so we are told, by those who count themselves alone, to have the intellect to know.

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Reply #1 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

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Reply #2 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant Reply #3 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:33pm numbnuts yadda puts up migrants in Europe whilst at the same time ignoring the Aussies here defying quarantine measures
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Reply #4 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:43pm

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We see them

their very low IQ

their lack of pride

their lust for anything they can steal and break

yet STILL these wastes of skin (mostly of the brown variety)

are proving to be SMARTER

and to be LESS FOOLED by the lying western media and for-sale western politicians

than the Euro reluctant-host population

sure, hide in your cribs, whiteys

but we invaders aren't scared of any mild summer cold

hand over your car keys, your children, your women, your gold neck chains and your pin numbers

DISS is what we CAME here for Grin

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant Reply #5 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:45pm PZ547 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:43pm: their very low IQ is still twice yours
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PZ547 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9282 Gender:	Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant Reply #6 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:50pm John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:45pm: PZ547 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:43pm: their very low IQ is still twice yours you are like listening to a four year old expecting any minute now for your response to be 'you are' go on make my day do it
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant Reply #7 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:59pm PZ547 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:50pm: you are like listening to a four year old Four year old are way above anything you can aspire to.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant Reply #8 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 3:17pm here are many Aussies breaching quarantine rules. Lots of bondi turds there. Where is your faux angst there Yadda?
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Reply #9 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 3:29pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:59pm:

PZ547 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:50pm:

you are like listening to a four year old

Four year old are way above anything you can aspire to.

You never fail to disappoint, smith

I'm obviously an optimist, because I keep expecting you to deliver something half decent

yet you don't

obviously because you can't

go on

say it

say 'You are'

make me laugh

because if you said that (and I know that's your first impulse, each time)

you'd remind me of my daughter when she was about three and unable to formulate anything better

She made me laugh every time

those were joyous years, for sure

and she and I still play at it, all these years later

first she'll knee me behind my knee, to collapse me

then, in response to something, she'll adopt her four year old facial expression of pure frustration (like your permanent expression)

and she'll say in a kid's voice

' You are'

gets me every time Grin

go on, say it

you know you want to

YOU are

lol

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant Reply #10 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 3:32pm you realise all that blabbering is just a long winded version of 'you are' right? So According to your own conclusion, you've admitted you've the IQ of a 3 year old
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Reply #11 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 3:37pm

John Smith wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 3:32pm:

you realise all that blabbering is just a long winded version of 'you are' right?

So According to your own conclusion, you've admitted you've the IQ of a 3 year old

Grin

gee

and I thought you might for once make me genuinely smile

never mind

maybe next time

stay happy smith

I have tons of happiness

I'll send you some if you like

but, already, I can see I've lifted your mood

my work for today is done

Grin

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72269 Gender:	Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant Reply #12 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 3:38pm PZ547 wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 3:37pm: and I thought as soon as you start with that we know you're lying and everything after it is hogwash. Thinking is beyond you.
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Reply #13 - Mar 21^st, 2020 at 4:05pm

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The migrants may not be familiar with the adage in English just yet

nevertheless, they know full well that it's an ill-wind that does no one any good

they're survivors

opportunists

grabbers

takers

gimme gimme

and they know this HOAX virus is a load of …

while whiteys cower in manufactured fear from a hoax

the migrants are out there making hay amongst other things

and Greece, as of last news, is still holding the line against four million desperate for gold chains opportunists who were conveniently set loose while the HOAX virus stole the headlines

Greece stands alone

while Italy kills off a few thousand to prop up the HOAX once China collected payment for kicking the whole scam off

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Reply #14 - Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 3:12pm

India: Muslim protester refuses to disperse, says “corona means Qur’an” and won’t harm Muslims MAR 21, 2020

Corona has come from the Quran. Corona means Quran. It came from there. And what is this Corona? Even more deadlier diseases will emerge after this. allah willing, we won’t be harmed. It’s for them to fear. We are not scared.”

For goodness sake just how stupid are muslims?

It's coming, lunatic leftard and muslim stupidity, will usher in the final days of civilization as we know it.

The muslims who are waiting for the right time to welcome the 12th imam back to slaughter all the infidels, see corona as their ally and tool from allah to destroy infidels and install islam as the ruling ideology on earth.

We have the nutcase leftards bending over backwards, to embrace islamic depravity, no matter how evil it is.

Oh well it was all foretold, yet we still plunged headlong into it.

The world is going to rue the day, we let the loony left - muslim duo of evil, attain the heights they did.

It could be avoided simply by being truthful about islam, but we seem determined to let it all run its' course.

Dark days ahead I fear.

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Reply #17 - Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 10:51am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

More BS to justify your delusional compassion. An immigrant is a person who moves from one place to another. There are two kinds. Legal and illegal. Of course if you want to rewrite the English language, knock yourself out.

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Reply #18 - Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm

issuevoter wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 10:51am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

More BS to justify your delusional compassion. An immigrant is a person who moves from one place to another. There are two kinds. Legal and illegal. Of course if you want to rewrite the English language, knock yourself out.

Where do Asylum Seekers fit into that sort of scenario?

Asylum Seekers are guaranteed under International Law and Domestic laws the right to entry to apply for Refugee status. This is according to the UN Convention on Refugees and the domestic laws that stem from a nation's signature and ratification of the Convention.

The issue of "legal" versus "illegal" only occurs for those people who aren't claiming asylum or those nations that refuse to recognise their obligations under the Convention (if they are a signatory). Roll Eyes

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Reply #19 - Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 4:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

Asylum Seekers are guaranteed under International Law and Domestic laws the right to entry to apply for Refugee status.

This is according to the UN Convention on Refugees and the domestic laws that stem from a nation's signature and ratification of the Convention.

The issue of "legal" versus "illegal" only occurs for those people who aren't claiming asylum or those nations that refuse to recognise their obligations under the Convention (if they are a signatory). Roll Eyes

I don't know, can't know, if the people in these images [below] were moslem Asylum Seekers [or the children of moslem Asylum Seekers], to the UK.

But they fit the profile of the moslem 'Asylum Seeker' to Australia, imo.

PROPOSITION;
We [in Australia] do not need these types of people here.
And we [in Australia] do not want these types of people here.

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These are a people, WHO DID NOT BUILD OUR NATIONS,
...but it is their intention to destroy everything, within our nations, which is non-ISLAM.

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These are the people, whom our governments are,
allowing to live among us, and to walk past us, on our streets.

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ARGUMENT;
Those people [in the images above] are human sewage, EVERY ONE OF THEM.

Examine the signs and the placards which they are holding.

"[our] Jihad will continue..."

"[our] ISLAM will dominate the world..."

Yadda paraphrases;

'We will continue to slaughter and to murder you, ....until we prevail against you!'

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Reply #22 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:07am

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 10:51am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

More BS to justify your delusional compassion. An immigrant is a person who moves from one place to another. There are two kinds. Legal and illegal. Of course if you want to rewrite the English language, knock yourself out.

Where do Asylum Seekers fit into that sort of scenario?

Asylum Seekers are guaranteed under International Law and Domestic laws the right to entry to apply for Refugee status. This is according to the UN Convention on Refugees and the domestic laws that stem from a nation's signature and ratification of the Convention.

The issue of "legal" versus "illegal" only occurs for those people who aren't claiming asylum or those nations that refuse to recognise their obligations under the Convention (if they are a signatory). Roll Eyes

They should claim asylum in Turkey or wherever the first safe country is they can enter. Country shopping is not the intention of the refugee convention.

Many of those hordes in Turkey are not Syrian. Almost all, however, are Muslims. Why aren't the rich Muslim countries taking their co-religionists undeer their wings? Why is every problem in the Muslim world up to the West to solve or pay for?

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Reply #23 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 10:51am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

More BS to justify your delusional compassion. An immigrant is a person who moves from one place to another. There are two kinds. Legal and illegal. Of course if you want to rewrite the English language, knock yourself out.

Where do Asylum Seekers fit into that sort of scenario?

Asylum Seekers are guaranteed under International Law and Domestic laws the right to entry to apply for Refugee status. This is according to the UN Convention on Refugees and the domestic laws that stem from a nation's signature and ratification of the Convention.

The issue of "legal" versus "illegal" only occurs for those people who aren't claiming asylum or those nations that refuse to recognise their obligations under the Convention (if they are a signatory). Roll Eyes

They should claim asylum in Turkey or wherever the first safe country is they can enter. Country shopping is not the intention of the refugee convention.

"Safe" is at best a relative term, Soren. Do you feel safe in Australia? Why would some one from Syria feel safe in a country where they are not welcome?

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Many of those hordes in Turkey are not Syrian. Almost all, however, are Muslims. Why aren't the rich Muslim countries taking their co-religionists undeer their wings? Why is every problem in the Muslim world up to the West to solve or pay for?

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

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Reply #24 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 10:51am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

More BS to justify your delusional compassion. An immigrant is a person who moves from one place to another. There are two kinds. Legal and illegal. Of course if you want to rewrite the English language, knock yourself out.

Where do Asylum Seekers fit into that sort of scenario?

Asylum Seekers are guaranteed under International Law and Domestic laws the right to entry to apply for Refugee status. This is according to the UN Convention on Refugees and the domestic laws that stem from a nation's signature and ratification of the Convention.

The issue of "legal" versus "illegal" only occurs for those people who aren't claiming asylum or those nations that refuse to recognise their obligations under the Convention (if they are a signatory). Roll Eyes

They should claim asylum in Turkey or wherever the first safe country is they can enter. Country shopping is not the intention of the refugee convention.

"Safe" is at best a relative term, Soren. Do you feel safe in Australia? Why would some one from Syria feel safe in a country where they are not welcome?

Not relative in terms of the refugee convention.

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Reply #25 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

How did the West 'cause' the Syrian war? The chaos of the 'Arab Spring'? The inability of Muslims and Hindus to leave in peace with each other? Buddhist and Muslims to live peacefully? Shia Iran's hegemonic hostility against Sunni Saudi and all their shia/sunni sectarian wars that has been going on for 1400 years.
How are these all or mostly caused by the West?

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Reply #26 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 3:35pm

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

How did the West 'cause' the Syrian war? The chaos of the 'Arab Spring'? The inability of Muslims and Hindus to leave in peace with each other? Buddhist and Muslims to live peacefully? Shia Iran's hegemonic hostility against Sunni Saudi and all their shia/sunni sectarian wars that has been going on for 1400 years.
How are these all or mostly caused by the West?

You are a fine example, Soren. You keep asking the Islamic world to reform but when they try, you say it is all their own fault. Hardly fair, now is it? Roll Eyes

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Reply #27 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 3:38pm

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 10:51am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

More BS to justify your delusional compassion. An immigrant is a person who moves from one place to another. There are two kinds. Legal and illegal. Of course if you want to rewrite the English language, knock yourself out.

Where do Asylum Seekers fit into that sort of scenario?

Asylum Seekers are guaranteed under International Law and Domestic laws the right to entry to apply for Refugee status. This is according to the UN Convention on Refugees and the domestic laws that stem from a nation's signature and ratification of the Convention.

The issue of "legal" versus "illegal" only occurs for those people who aren't claiming asylum or those nations that refuse to recognise their obligations under the Convention (if they are a signatory). Roll Eyes

They should claim asylum in Turkey or wherever the first safe country is they can enter. Country shopping is not the intention of the refugee convention.

"Safe" is at best a relative term, Soren. Do you feel safe in Australia? Why would some one from Syria feel safe in a country where they are not welcome?

Not relative in terms of the refugee convention.

"Safety" isn't mentioned in the UN Convention of Refugees. Funny that, how you insert words which aren't mentioned in the text, Soren. Roll Eyes

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Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
Reply #28 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 5:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

How did the West 'cause' the Syrian war? The chaos of the 'Arab Spring'? The inability of Muslims and Hindus to leave in peace with each other? Buddhist and Muslims to live peacefully? Shia Iran's hegemonic hostility against Sunni Saudi and all their shia/sunni sectarian wars that has been going on for 1400 years.
How are these all or mostly caused by the West?

You are a fine example, Soren. You keep asking the Islamic world to reform but when they try, you say it is all their own fault. Hardly fair, now is it? Roll Eyes

You can blame everything on the west, on account of the west not spewing Brian's spineless apologetics every time the Muslims go on another rape and pillage expedition.

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Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
Reply #29 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 8:34pm

freediver wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

How did the West 'cause' the Syrian war? The chaos of the 'Arab Spring'? The inability of Muslims and Hindus to leave in peace with each other? Buddhist and Muslims to live peacefully? Shia Iran's hegemonic hostility against Sunni Saudi and all their shia/sunni sectarian wars that has been going on for 1400 years.
How are these all or mostly caused by the West?

You are a fine example, Soren. You keep asking the Islamic world to reform but when they try, you say it is all their own fault. Hardly fair, now is it? Roll Eyes

You can blame everything on the west, on account of the west not spewing Brian's spineless apologetics every time the Muslims go on another rape and pillage expedition.

Oh, dearie, dearie me. Thinking about joining Soren down on the farm, spreading some muck, hey, FD? You might get some spuds, if you spread enough muck. Roll Eyes

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Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
Reply #30 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 9:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

How did the West 'cause' the Syrian war? The chaos of the 'Arab Spring'? The inability of Muslims and Hindus to leave in peace with each other? Buddhist and Muslims to live peacefully? Shia Iran's hegemonic hostility against Sunni Saudi and all their shia/sunni sectarian wars that has been going on for 1400 years.
How are these all or mostly caused by the West?

You are a fine example, Soren. You keep asking the Islamic world to reform but when they try, you say it is all their own fault. Hardly fair, now is it? Roll Eyes

You can blame everything on the west, on account of the west not spewing Brian's spineless apologetics every time the Muslims go on another rape and pillage expedition.

Oh, dearie, dearie me. Thinking about joining Soren down on the far, spreading some muck, hey, FD? You might get some spuds, if you spread enough muck. Roll Eyes

You are a freak, Derek.

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Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
Reply #31 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 10:04pm

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

How did the West 'cause' the Syrian war? The chaos of the 'Arab Spring'? The inability of Muslims and Hindus to leave in peace with each other? Buddhist and Muslims to live peacefully? Shia Iran's hegemonic hostility against Sunni Saudi and all their shia/sunni sectarian wars that has been going on for 1400 years.
How are these all or mostly caused by the West?

You are a fine example, Soren. You keep asking the Islamic world to reform but when they try, you say it is all their own fault. Hardly fair, now is it? Roll Eyes

You can blame everything on the west, on account of the west not spewing Brian's spineless apologetics every time the Muslims go on another rape and pillage expedition.

Oh, dearie, dearie me. Thinking about joining Soren down on the far, spreading some muck, hey, FD? You might get some spuds, if you spread enough muck. Roll Eyes

You are a freak, Derek.

How very dare of you, Soren... Roll Eyes

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Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
Reply #32 - Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:17pm

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 10:51am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

More BS to justify your delusional compassion. An immigrant is a person who moves from one place to another. There are two kinds. Legal and illegal. Of course if you want to rewrite the English language, knock yourself out.

Where do Asylum Seekers fit into that sort of scenario?

Asylum Seekers are guaranteed under International Law and Domestic laws the right to entry to apply for Refugee status. This is according to the UN Convention on Refugees and the domestic laws that stem from a nation's signature and ratification of the Convention.

The issue of "legal" versus "illegal" only occurs for those people who aren't claiming asylum or those nations that refuse to recognise their obligations under the Convention (if they are a signatory). Roll Eyes

They should claim asylum in Turkey or wherever the first safe country is they can enter. Country shopping is not the intention of the refugee convention.

So why didn't you stay in Balogney?

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Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
Reply #33 - Mar 25^th, 2020 at 6:30pm

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

How did the West 'cause' the Syrian war? The chaos of the 'Arab Spring'? The inability of Muslims and Hindus to leave in peace with each other? Buddhist and Muslims to live peacefully? Shia Iran's hegemonic hostility against Sunni Saudi and all their shia/sunni sectarian wars that has been going on for 1400 years.
How are these all or mostly caused by the West?

You are a fine example, Soren. You keep asking the Islamic world to reform but when they try, you say it is all their own fault. Hardly fair, now is it? Roll Eyes

You can blame everything on the west, on account of the west not spewing Brian's spineless apologetics every time the Muslims go on another rape and pillage expedition.

Oh, dearie, dearie me. Thinking about joining Soren down on the far, spreading some muck, hey, FD? You might get some spuds, if you spread enough muck. Roll Eyes

You are a freak, Derek.

How very dare of you, Soren... Roll Eyes

Thanks for finally owning who you are, Bwian.

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Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
Reply #34 - Mar 25^th, 2020 at 6:33pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:17pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:07am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 2:29pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 10:51am:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 2:11pm:

issuevoter wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 8:15am:

Let's get one thing straight. Those people are not migrants. They are illegal aliens, no they are not "undocumented", they are breaking the law. To misuse "migrant" in this way, is just what multicultural- progressive - Leftists want you to do. It gives a tone of legality to what amounts to an hostile invasion. Talk about Europeans in Australia and they do a 180.

"Migrant" means different things to different people at different times. To many Americans it basically means "illegal immigrant". To most Australians it means "legal immigrants". To Europeans it basically means "immigrant". It has little to do with which side of politics. Roll Eyes

More BS to justify your delusional compassion. An immigrant is a person who moves from one place to another. There are two kinds. Legal and illegal. Of course if you want to rewrite the English language, knock yourself out.

Where do Asylum Seekers fit into that sort of scenario?

Asylum Seekers are guaranteed under International Law and Domestic laws the right to entry to apply for Refugee status. This is according to the UN Convention on Refugees and the domestic laws that stem from a nation's signature and ratification of the Convention.

The issue of "legal" versus "illegal" only occurs for those people who aren't claiming asylum or those nations that refuse to recognise their obligations under the Convention (if they are a signatory). Roll Eyes

They should claim asylum in Turkey or wherever the first safe country is they can enter. Country shopping is not the intention of the refugee convention.

So why didn't you stay in Balogney?

I actually went to Bologna University for a semester as an Australian student.

And sing along with Anya - sneer away, sneer away, sneer away. That's all you ever have. Carry on, Paki underminer. You are all Fvckoulded, innit?

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Re: Europe - Migrants turn violent, defy virus quarant
Reply #35 - Mar 25^th, 2020 at 6:43pm

Frank wrote on Mar 25^th, 2020 at 6:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 10:04pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 9:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Frank wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Mar 24^th, 2020 at 11:20am:

Well as most are caused by the West, I suspect the refugees feel it is up to the West to solve them, Soren. Roll Eyes

Nonsense.

How did the West 'cause' the Syrian war? The chaos of the 'Arab Spring'? The inability of Muslims and Hindus to leave in peace with each other? Buddhist and Muslims to live peacefully? Shia Iran's hegemonic hostility against Sunni Saudi and all their shia/sunni sectarian wars that has been going on for 1400 years.
How are these all or mostly caused by the West?

You are a fine example, Soren. You keep asking the Islamic world to reform but when they try, you say it is all their own fault. Hardly fair, now is it? Roll Eyes

You can blame everything on the west, on account of the west not spewing Brian's spineless apologetics every time the Muslims go on another rape and pillage expedition.

Oh, dearie, dearie me. Thinking about joining Soren down on the far, spreading some muck, hey, FD? You might get some spuds, if you spread enough muck. Roll Eyes

You are a freak, Derek.

How very dare of you, Soren... Roll Eyes

Thanks for finally owning who you are, Bwian.

*WHOOSH*, straight over your head, as per usual. Assumptions. Tsk, tsk. Roll Eyes

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