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Re: Propaganda for 5 year olds in Melbourne
Reply #60 - Feb 16th, 2020 at 8:53pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 8:18pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
I am a Socialist.

Well you've got your dream policies, the Libs and Labs have given you all that you need and want, perhaps not all, but enough, I should imagine

So go and enjoy them, why hang around here? You could be helping out to make costumes for next years Mardi Gras or something. Be of some constructive and positive use for your multicultural community, or do you consider that arguing on here is the only way you can be constructive. Are you some kind of self appointed social policeman and you get a kick out of harassing posters online?


I don't live in or near Sydney.  I can sew a button on and hem a pair of daks.   I am useful here 'cause I oppose the intolerance and the Racism and Xenophobia that many here like to peddle.   I note you haven't answered my questions.  I wonder why?  Roll Eyes





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Re: Propaganda for 5 year olds in Melbourne
Reply #61 - Feb 16th, 2020 at 9:02pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 8:18pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:54pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
I am a Socialist.

Well you've got your dream policies, the Libs and Labs have given you all that you need and want, perhaps not all, but enough, I should imagine

So go and enjoy them, why hang around here? You could be helping out to make costumes for next years Mardi Gras or something. Be of some constructive and positive use for your multicultural community, or do you consider that arguing on here is the only way you can be constructive. Are you some kind of self appointed social policeman and you get a kick out of harassing posters online?


I don't live in or near Sydney.  I can sew a button on and hem a pair of daks.   I am useful here 'cause I oppose the intolerance and the Racism and Xenophobia that many here like to peddle.   I note you haven't answered my questions.  I wonder why?  Roll Eyes



The reason I haven't answered your questions is because the argument will inevitable go in circles. And you tacked little questions on the end of your comments with a sarcastic tone about them attempting to trap me so you can infer that I'm racist and xenophopbic, that's not nice Brian. Did you ever get a degree in debating? if you didn't, you really should take a course

I can tell that you would have a great deal of trouble shifting from your socialist progressive beliefs, even a little, so why don't you just be content that as well as your own beliefs, there are opposing beliefs that see anomalies in the current Lib Lab policies that are proving to be seriously detrimental to Australia, and I'm not party politically biased, I'm biased toward Australia and if that means calling out anomalies in policies of each and every party or individual, I will call them out, I don't give a sh!t who they are
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Reply #62 - Feb 17th, 2020 at 2:03am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
I am here.  I am willing to listen.  Lets see what you believe the alternative to Multiculturalism should be.  You have the floor.   Of course, if you believe in promoting discrimination, Racism, Xenophobia or anything else you cannot expect me to remain silent.


I will answer this one

The alternative is to take Govt out of culture altogether, and have just a set of guide lines for new immigrants to read and understand the differences between their old country and their new country, if there are significant differences

There should be no Govt money spent on any culture. Culture is in the same vein as religion and should be separate from the State. How much Govt money was poured into the Aussie culture when Australia was 90% Aussie culture and before mass immigration? None that I know of. It was separate from the State and Govt expenditure

Any Govt spending would be for advising new immigrants about the basic laws that apply to everyone, and tell them that those laws over-ride the laws that applied in the old country, and that any disturbing trait in their old culture will not be acceptable or tolerated in Australia, and make that well understood

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Reply #63 - Feb 17th, 2020 at 6:12am
 

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Reply #64 - Feb 17th, 2020 at 4:04pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 2:03am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
I am here.  I am willing to listen.  Lets see what you believe the alternative to Multiculturalism should be.  You have the floor.   Of course, if you believe in promoting discrimination, Racism, Xenophobia or anything else you cannot expect me to remain silent.


I will answer this one

The alternative is to take Govt out of culture altogether, and have just a set of guide lines for new immigrants to read and understand the differences between their old country and their new country, if there are significant differences

There should be no Govt money spent on any culture. Culture is in the same vein as religion and should be separate from the State. How much Govt money was poured into the Aussie culture when Australia was 90% Aussie culture and before mass immigration? None that I know of. It was separate from the State and Govt expenditure

Any Govt spending would be for advising new immigrants about the basic laws that apply to everyone, and tell them that those laws over-ride the laws that applied in the old country, and that any disturbing trait in their old culture will not be acceptable or tolerated in Australia, and make that well understood



Of course, immigration should be an election issue. Every election. The fact that it's not speaks volumes about Australian democracy.
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Re: Propaganda for 5 year olds in Melbourne
Reply #65 - Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:31pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 2:40pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 2:26pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 2:16pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 2:12pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 4:30am:
Watch the video which shows multiculturalism at work:


https://twitter.com/kelliekelly23/status/1228619463345364992



Nope, no video there. Bobby.  Want to try again with something other than Twitter which is made for Twits?  Roll Eyes :Wink



Twitter has taken down the video.
That is multiculturalism censorship at work.

Part of the the video is still here:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8006761/Terrified-woman-choked-stranger...

Rather circumstantial evidence, Bobby.   A bloke walking along, behind a woman and looking at his phone?   Wouldn't stand up in court.  Her word against his.  Tsk, tsk, you really do believe the greatest poppycock don't you, silly many?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes



The other part of the video shows him undoing his belt
and getting ready to strangle her.




Arrested: Muhammed (really??? Noooooo!!!!) Hassan ("is that like Hussein, Barry O'Bama?"). 

Of course, nuffin' to do wiv nuffin'.  Cultural misunderstanding, choking lady with belt.  Australians need sensitivity training to STOP MISUNDERSTANDING ALL THE MUHAMMEDS!!!


Fair dinkum (Strayan for Inshallah, innit?)


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Re: Propaganda for 5 year olds in Melbourne
Reply #66 - Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:42pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
  You appear to believe I am a Stalinist or a Communist or something like that for some reason.  Perhaps it is your personal biases showing through.   I spent 10 years in the Australian Army,  I love Australia.  I am not a Communist.  Not in the slightest.  I am a Socialist.  I believe in the government control of the means of production.   Just as we used to have in Australia before Hawke came along.   Roll Eyes





You are a 17 year old loon, Bwian, with no recollection of what you had for breakfast, let alone your life before yesterday. No grown man who is not seriously mentally impaired could possible take such a stance.

Government control of the means of production? How is that not Leninist Communism? And the means of production were controlled by the Fraser Government?? Really?



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Reply #67 - Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:43pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
  You appear to believe I am a Stalinist or a Communist or something like that for some reason.  Perhaps it is your personal biases showing through.   I spent 10 years in the Australian Army,  I love Australia.  I am not a Communist.  Not in the slightest.  I am a Socialist.  I believe in the government control of the means of production.   Just as we used to have in Australia before Hawke came along.   Roll Eyes





You are a 17 year old loon, Bwian, with no recollection of what you had for breakfast, let alone your life before yesterday. No grown man who is not seriously mentally impaired could possible take such a stance.

Government control of the means of production? How is that not Leninist Communism? And the means of production were controlled by the Fraser Government?? Really?




Brian read it here:

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Re: Propaganda for 5 year olds in Melbourne
Reply #68 - Feb 20th, 2020 at 10:38pm
 
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 2:03am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
I am here.  I am willing to listen.  Lets see what you believe the alternative to Multiculturalism should be.  You have the floor.   Of course, if you believe in promoting discrimination, Racism, Xenophobia or anything else you cannot expect me to remain silent.


I will answer this one

The alternative is to take Govt out of culture altogether, and have just a set of guide lines for new immigrants to read and understand the differences between their old country and their new country, if there are significant differences

There should be no Govt money spent on any culture. Culture is in the same vein as religion and should be separate from the State. How much Govt money was poured into the Aussie culture when Australia was 90% Aussie culture and before mass immigration? None that I know of. It was separate from the State and Govt expenditure

Any Govt spending would be for advising new immigrants about the basic laws that apply to everyone, and tell them that those laws over-ride the laws that applied in the old country, and that any disturbing trait in their old culture will not be acceptable or tolerated in Australia, and make that well understood



OK so nothing to be spent on culture.

I can hear the screams from the culture buffs immediately.   No money spent on opera or on the theatre,  Afterall, they are both aspects of culture,  aren't they?  How about no money to be spent on sport.  Sport is big in most Australian states.   No money to be spent on the Olympics (not a bad thing IMO) or the Commonwealth Games or any other sporting events.  You happy with that outcome?

Then there is matter of explaining to the locals the local laws which protect the newcomers from racial/ethnic abuse, from racial/ethnic hatred, you OK with that as well?  Or I take it your not going to bother with that, hey?  Let the new comers sink or swim, hey?  How kind of you.

You seem to be putting the emphasis purely onto the newcomers in this mix, am I right?  They have to behave or else they get deported back to their old homelands, right?  What happens to the residents if they do wrong?  Mmmm?

Seems to me that your only concerned with money, right?  How dare the immigrants believe that the government that is mean to represent their wishes do so at the expense of all Australian tax payers, right?  Don't they get to choose how the government spends their tax dollars?   Oh, dear, now terribly well thought out it seems to me.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Propaganda for 5 year olds in Melbourne
Reply #69 - Feb 20th, 2020 at 10:39pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 4:04pm:
Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 2:03am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
I am here.  I am willing to listen.  Lets see what you believe the alternative to Multiculturalism should be.  You have the floor.   Of course, if you believe in promoting discrimination, Racism, Xenophobia or anything else you cannot expect me to remain silent.


I will answer this one

The alternative is to take Govt out of culture altogether, and have just a set of guide lines for new immigrants to read and understand the differences between their old country and their new country, if there are significant differences

There should be no Govt money spent on any culture. Culture is in the same vein as religion and should be separate from the State. How much Govt money was poured into the Aussie culture when Australia was 90% Aussie culture and before mass immigration? None that I know of. It was separate from the State and Govt expenditure

Any Govt spending would be for advising new immigrants about the basic laws that apply to everyone, and tell them that those laws over-ride the laws that applied in the old country, and that any disturbing trait in their old culture will not be acceptable or tolerated in Australia, and make that well understood



Of course, immigration should be an election issue. Every election. The fact that it's not speaks volumes about Australian democracy.


You are welcome to bring it up at the next election in your electorate, Hammer.  I don't think too many people would be interested in listening to your usual racist rants.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Propaganda for 5 year olds in Melbourne
Reply #70 - Feb 20th, 2020 at 10:42pm
 
Frank wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
  You appear to believe I am a Stalinist or a Communist or something like that for some reason.  Perhaps it is your personal biases showing through.   I spent 10 years in the Australian Army,  I love Australia.  I am not a Communist.  Not in the slightest.  I am a Socialist.  I believe in the government control of the means of production.   Just as we used to have in Australia before Hawke came along.   Roll Eyes





You are a 17 year old loon, Bwian, with no recollection of what you had for breakfast, let alone your life before yesterday. No grown man who is not seriously mentally impaired could possible take such a stance.

Government control of the means of production? How is that not Leninist Communism? And the means of production were controlled by the Fraser Government?? Really?



Anything useful to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't seem to so.  Such a shame that you waste so many resources spreading your usual bullshit all around.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #71 - Feb 20th, 2020 at 10:43pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
  You appear to believe I am a Stalinist or a Communist or something like that for some reason.  Perhaps it is your personal biases showing through.   I spent 10 years in the Australian Army,  I love Australia.  I am not a Communist.  Not in the slightest.  I am a Socialist.  I believe in the government control of the means of production.   Just as we used to have in Australia before Hawke came along.   Roll Eyes





You are a 17 year old loon, Bwian, with no recollection of what you had for breakfast, let alone your life before yesterday. No grown man who is not seriously mentally impaired could possible take such a stance.

Government control of the means of production? How is that not Leninist Communism? And the means of production were controlled by the Fraser Government?? Really?




Brian read it here:

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Did I?  How interesting, Bobby.  Be careful people might start thinking about where you find your conspiranut bullshit.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

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Re: Propaganda for 5 year olds in Melbourne
Reply #72 - Feb 20th, 2020 at 10:50pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 10:43pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:43pm:
Frank wrote on Feb 17th, 2020 at 5:42pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 16th, 2020 at 7:14pm:
  You appear to believe I am a Stalinist or a Communist or something like that for some reason.  Perhaps it is your personal biases showing through.   I spent 10 years in the Australian Army,  I love Australia.  I am not a Communist.  Not in the slightest.  I am a Socialist.  I believe in the government control of the means of production.   Just as we used to have in Australia before Hawke came along.   Roll Eyes





You are a 17 year old loon, Bwian, with no recollection of what you had for breakfast, let alone your life before yesterday. No grown man who is not seriously mentally impaired could possible take such a stance.

Government control of the means of production? How is that not Leninist Communism? And the means of production were controlled by the Fraser Government?? Really?




Brian read it here:

[url]https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Publication/v4/c7/d5/32/c7d53292-bbb6-9
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Did I?  How interesting, Bobby.  Be careful people might start thinking about where you find your conspiranut bullshit.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




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Reply #73 - Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:53am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 10:38pm:
OK so nothing to be spent on culture



That's correct

It's like religion, keep the govt out of it, no more money spent on it, let the people sort it out and pay for it out of their own pockets
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Reply #74 - Feb 21st, 2020 at 5:21am
 
Our government does as it's told by overseas powers

the best it can do now is try to coerce or threaten native Aussies to accept the deal our government okayed

It might be better if 'our' government coerced and threatened migrants by advising them to adopt the culture and mores of the host population, but 'our' government won't do that because it hasn't been given permission to do so by those overseas powers to which our government is in thrall.  And somewhere I have a recent article (Crikey) in which it states that Morrison (our current temporary PM) has always slavishly supported izrail (as all our PMs must if they're to have a hope of landing the top-job)

Anyway, in the streets of Australia are migrants who will never willingly depart this country.  But … they remain loyal to their idealised version of the country they left … their own country which was so shite they ran from it.  And you only need scratch the surface and not only does their loyalty to their idealised version of their original country emerge … so too does, in many instances, their envy, resentment, jealousy, etc. with regard to Australia and Australians, even if they've lived and prospered from Australia for seventy years

'Diversity for thee but not for me' is explified in the discussions between izrail's Danny Danon and ex-jewish-Australian MP Michael Danby of Melbourne Ports, when it was 'decided' that 40,000 Africans more properly belonged in Australia than izrail, because, in the words of Danny Danon as reported by Jerusalem Times, 'izrail must protect its (laugh) 'homogeneity'

and thus Australia's hopes of homogeneity were destroyed

and as we see now in Melbourne, so many of those Africans more rightly belong in Africa

So get your kids to suck up the diversity programme

because they're stuck with it with more to come

courtesy of what are described as our 'izrail supporting' Prime Ministers

who bog off as soon as their over-generous pensions and perks are assured

to enter the lecture circuit and even more dosh

and, if they're lucky, a junket overseas posting like so many of their political predecessors



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