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Reply #15 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:30pm

freediver wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:31am:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

That's where we get biofuel from. It's basically fermented Orangutans.

Orangutan wine... best in the world..

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Reply #16 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 2:01pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

You serious? All that cleared land has no input to any trade at all? Then why do they do it? National land security indicates that such clearance is designed to further the economic benefits for the nation - ergo - it is directly linked to trade.

Do they clear it all by fire - slash and burn - to create habitats for orang utans?

No. The bulk of GDP is in domestic consumption. Land clearing for palm oil production. We don't export that stuff so fukk all to do with our trade.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8611 armidale Gender:	Re: Indonesia Reply #17 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 2:34pm Palmolive body wash - use daily to get rid of smoky koala body odour. Enjoy the fresh tropical breeze of roast orangutan and get some ginger into you.
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crocodile Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6682 Gender:	Re: Indonesia Reply #18 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 2:44pm chimera wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 2:34pm: Palmolive body wash - use daily to get rid of smoky koala body odour. Enjoy the fresh tropical breeze of roast orangutan and get some ginger into you. Obviously more money in palm oil than primates.
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chimera Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8611 armidale Gender:	Re: Indonesia Reply #19 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 3:16pm The Primate Archbishop of Goa also holds the titles of Primate of the East and Patriarch of the East Indies. The Catholic Church is the largest landowner in India and a conservative estimate of its holdings is $1.5 bn. plus (2009). Much of its land and wealth was appropriated from Hindu temples during colonial times.
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Reply #20 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:41pm

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 2:01pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

You serious? All that cleared land has no input to any trade at all? Then why do they do it? National land security indicates that such clearance is designed to further the economic benefits for the nation - ergo - it is directly linked to trade.

Do they clear it all by fire - slash and burn - to create habitats for orang utans?

No. The bulk of GDP is in domestic consumption. Land clearing for palm oil production. We don't export that stuff so fukk all to do with our trade.

But it is linked to trade - just not ours?

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Reply #21 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:42pm

chimera wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 3:16pm:

The Primate Archbishop of Goa also holds the titles of Primate of the East and Patriarch of the East Indies. The Catholic Church is the largest landowner in India and a conservative estimate of its holdings is $1.5 bn. plus (2009). Much of its land and wealth was appropriated from Hindu temples during colonial times.

GOD - the Good Old Days!

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Reply #22 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 6:57pm

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 9:37am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 5^th, 2020 at 12:34pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 5^th, 2020 at 10:14am:

Tastes like chicken? Huh

Speaking of Indonesia ...Joko Widodo is about to present us all with a massive gift ...

A Free Trade agreement.

https://elevenmyanmar.com/sites/news-eleven.com/files/styles/news_detail_image/p...

Oh, goodie, so now we can 'compete' with Indonesians on $183 USD a month or $45.75 USD a week .... won't that be lovely?

What are they going to trade us? I mean, their Globalist Rich will exploit workers there and then send us heaps of cheap goods... how many of those Globalist Rich are going to buy Australian made products in return? It's a bit like buying submarines from Eurostania for $50Bn - what exactly is Eurostania going to purchase from us that equates to $50Bn? Free trade, innit?

Are the French, for example, going to give Australia a contract for $50Bn to make cheese or wine for them or build their ships???? Not as long as their arses point to the ground...

Sometimes your ignorance is absolutely breathtaking. Some quick facts regarding current trade with Indonesia.

- Largest economy in SE Asia
- 16th largest in the world
- Our 13th largest export market
- $16.8 billion in exports, $1 billion in imports. Trade balance favours us considerably.

https://dfat.gov.au/geo/indonesia/Pages/indonesia-country-brief.aspx

Gift horses and mouths indeed.

What happens when they become self sufficient?

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Indonesia’s long-standing goal to reach self-sufficiency remains a top priority. Under President Joko Widodo, the country’s National Development Plan aims to boost the country’s farming capability, production and value added activities, while lessening commodity imports. Indonesia is heavily reliant on imports of grains (wheat), live cattle, meat, raw sugar, soya beans and others.

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Reply #23 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:00pm

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

Of course it has .. future trade.. that's why they're knocking down more & more rain forest in Borneo.

The drive for self sustainability is the Indos top priority.

What then?

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Reply #24 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:58pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 5:41pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 2:01pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 1:27pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

You serious? All that cleared land has no input to any trade at all? Then why do they do it? National land security indicates that such clearance is designed to further the economic benefits for the nation - ergo - it is directly linked to trade.

Do they clear it all by fire - slash and burn - to create habitats for orang utans?

No. The bulk of GDP is in domestic consumption. Land clearing for palm oil production. We don't export that stuff so fukk all to do with our trade.

But it is linked to trade - just not ours?

The FTA is between us and Indonesia, not Indonesia and the rest.

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Reply #25 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:01pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:00pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

Of course it has .. future trade.. that's why they're knocking down more & more rain forest in Borneo.

The drive for self sustainability is the Indos top priority.

What then?

We will move on to something else. Such is the march of technology. The game is stay one step ahead. In the meantime, make hay while the sun shines.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #26 - Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:04pm

Gnads wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:00pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

Of course it has .. future trade.. that's why they're knocking down more & more rain forest in Borneo.

The drive for self sustainability is the Indos top priority.

What then?

They only think that. Eventually they will learn about opportunity cost and the power of comparative advantage. At that point they will see that self sufficiency and absolute advantage is a backward step.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Reply #27 - Feb 11^th, 2020 at 9:32am

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:00pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

Of course it has .. future trade.. that's why they're knocking down more & more rain forest in Borneo.

The drive for self sustainability is the Indos top priority.

What then?

They only think that. Eventually they will learn about opportunity cost and the power of comparative advantage. At that point they will see that self sufficiency and absolute advantage is a backward step.

Oh? ... & it does wonders for employment in this country as well doesn't it.

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Reply #28 - Feb 11^th, 2020 at 10:35am

Gnads wrote on Feb 11^th, 2020 at 9:32am:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

Gnads wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 7:00pm:

crocodile wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:29am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10^th, 2020 at 10:06am:

....burns off more bush in a year than Australia does in ten years of bushfires..

Nothing to do with trade

Of course it has .. future trade.. that's why they're knocking down more & more rain forest in Borneo.

The drive for self sustainability is the Indos top priority.

What then?

They only think that. Eventually they will learn about opportunity cost and the power of comparative advantage. At that point they will see that self sufficiency and absolute advantage is a backward step.

Oh? ... & it does wonders for employment in this country as well doesn't it.

No, it only trades declining living standards for jobs. Why do you think people engage in trade rather than do everything themselves. Gnads can grow his own veggies, own and milk a cow, make his own clothes yadda yadda yadda and see if he's better off than working and buying the goods.

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Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes.

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Brian Ross Gold Member Offline Representative of me Posts: 39566	Re: Indonesia Reply #29 - Feb 13^th, 2020 at 8:22pm Gordon will be relieved. First case of coronavirus linked to Bali after report Chinese tourist returned positive test
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