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Reply #630 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 11:28pm
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 6:50pm:
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Wuhan Lab did not use live viruses, Bobby. You have been told this before.



Fauci funded the Wuhan lab and transferred the technology
to make a bio weapon called Covid-19.



** In your opinion.



How much more evidence do you want?
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Reply #631 - Apr 27th, 2022 at 11:58pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Wuhan Lab did not use live viruses, Booby. You have been told this before.


They did use live viruses ya dopey Mong.

Repeating your lies doesn't make it true it just makes you look like a stupid Mong.

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NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan, Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements


A top NIH official admitted in a Wednesday letter that U.S. taxpayers funded gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses in Wuhan and revealed that EcoHealth Alliance, the U.S. non-profit that funneled NIH money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, was not transparent about the work it was doing.

In the letter to Representative James Comer (R., Ky.), Lawrence A. Tabak of the NIH cites a “limited experiment” that was conducted to test if “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.” The laboratory mice infected with the modified bat virus “became sicker” than those infected with the unmodified bat virus.

So, when Wuhan researchers successfully bound a natural bat coronavirus to a human AC2 receptor in mice, they were supposed to inform the NIH, but they didn’t.

More here- https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nih-admits-to-funding-gain-of-function-resea...



Covid 19 uses a spike protein to bind to human ACE2 receptor.

Peter Dazak from Eco Health Alliance was funded by Fauci and the NIH

Thread here- https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1584960705/91#91
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Re: China's covert biological weapons program
Reply #633 - Apr 28th, 2022 at 1:34pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 11:28pm:
SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 9:41pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 6:50pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 27th, 2022 at 6:46pm:
Wuhan Lab did not use live viruses, Bobby. You have been told this before.



Fauci funded the Wuhan lab and transferred the technology
to make a bio weapon called Covid-19.



** In your opinion.



How much more evidence do you want?


You're making logic leaps based on actual facts, but that's still not evidence, that's your opinion.
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Reply #634 - May 6th, 2022 at 8:18pm
 
Why hasn't Fauci been arrested yet?


https://www.nationalreview.com/news/nih-admits-to-funding-gain-of-function-resea...


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NIH Admits to Funding Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan,
Says EcoHealth Violated Reporting Requirements


The revelation vindicates Republican senator Rand Paul, who got into heated exchanges with National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease director Anthony Fauci during his May and July testimonials before Congress over the gain-of-function question. At the second hearing, Paul accused Fauci of misleading Congress by denying that the U.S. had funded gain-of-function projects at the Wuhan Institute of Virology.
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Reply #635 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 5:53pm
 
Will Fauci be killed by his own invention?

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/06/15/world/covid-19-mandates-vaccine-cases#an...


Covid Live Updates:
Fauci Has His First Positive Test for the Coronavirus


Dr. Anthony Fauci, the face of the U.S. pandemic response, has mild symptoms.
he was fully vaccinated against the virus and had been boosted twice. He is taking Paxlovid, the Pfizer antiviral therapy authorized by the Food and Drug Administration for treatment of Covid-19, an agency spokeswoman said.

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Reply #636 - Jun 16th, 2022 at 7:38pm
 
Fauci gave money and transferred technology to Wuhan
to make the Covid-19 bio weapon virus.
He should be on trial for the manslaughter
of over 1 million Americans and over 6 million people worldwide
and be sued for at least $40 trillion -
the estimated cost of the Pandemic he caused.
He is an evil man.
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Reply #637 - Jun 19th, 2022 at 9:15pm
 
Russell Brand is right on to all the criminals involved -
information has been deleted in both Wuhan and
the USA which funded it all.











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Reply #638 - Jul 4th, 2022 at 1:38pm
 
https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-des...


NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan —
despite Fauci’s denials


By Emily Crane
October 21, 2021

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It’s another Fauci flub.

The National Institutes of Health has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China’s Wuhan lab — despite Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

In a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on Wednesday, a top NIH official blamed EcoHealth Alliance — the New York City-based nonprofit that has funneled US funds to the Wuhan lab — for not being transparent about the work it was doing.

NIH’s principal deputy director, Lawrence A. Tabak, wrote in the letter that EcoHealth’s “limited experiment” tested whether “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.”
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Reply #639 - Jul 4th, 2022 at 1:39pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2022 at 1:38pm:
https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-des...


NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan —
despite Fauci’s denials


By Emily Crane
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https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=410,quality=100/system/preview_cards/i...


It’s another Fauci flub.

The National Institutes of Health has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China’s Wuhan lab — despite Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

In a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on Wednesday, a top NIH official blamed EcoHealth Alliance — the New York City-based nonprofit that has funneled US funds to the Wuhan lab — for not being transparent about the work it was doing.

NIH’s principal deputy director, Lawrence A. Tabak, wrote in the letter that EcoHealth’s “limited experiment” tested whether “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.”


The NY post is a right wing rag

It's hard to imagine why Fauci would know about this TBH

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Reply #640 - Jul 4th, 2022 at 2:00pm
 
FutureTheLeftWant wrote on Jul 4th, 2022 at 1:39pm:
Bobby. wrote on Jul 4th, 2022 at 1:38pm:
https://nypost.com/2021/10/21/nih-admits-us-funded-gain-of-function-in-wuhan-des...


NIH admits US funded gain-of-function in Wuhan —
despite Fauci’s denials


By Emily Crane
October 21, 2021

https://media.gab.com/cdn-cgi/image/width=410,quality=100/system/preview_cards/i...


It’s another Fauci flub.

The National Institutes of Health has stunningly admitted to funding gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at China’s Wuhan lab — despite Dr. Anthony Fauci repeatedly insisting to Congress that no such thing happened.

In a letter to Rep. James Comer (R-Ky.) on Wednesday, a top NIH official blamed EcoHealth Alliance — the New York City-based nonprofit that has funneled US funds to the Wuhan lab — for not being transparent about the work it was doing.

NIH’s principal deputy director, Lawrence A. Tabak, wrote in the letter that EcoHealth’s “limited experiment” tested whether “spike proteins from naturally occurring bat coronaviruses circulating in China were capable of binding to the human ACE2 receptor in a mouse model.”


The NY post is a right wing rag

It's hard to imagine why Fauci would know about this TBH




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Reply #641 - Jul 10th, 2022 at 9:03am
 
This is a great video.
It's all about the Wuhan institute and the lies of Dr Fauci.
Wuhan is now working on Monkeypox viruses.  Shocked


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Reply #642 - Jul 14th, 2022 at 8:08pm
 
But the wet market was the source of the pandemic!

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Wuhan market was epicentre of pandemic’s start, studies suggest


Report authors say that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 jumped to people from animals sold at the market on two occasions in late 2019 — but some scientists want more definitive evidence.


See how as one good paper got published other scientists posted results of their studies, all pointing to the wet market.

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Scientists have released three studies that reveal intriguing new clues about how the COVID-19 pandemic started. Two of the reports trace the outbreak back to a massive market that sold live animals, among other goods, in Wuhan, China1,2, and a third suggests that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 spilled over from animals — possibly those sold at the market — to humans at least twice in November or December 20193. Posted on 25 and 26 February, all three are preprints, and so have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal.


Lovely market!
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One major finding reported by Andersen and colleagues is the mapping of five positive samples from the market to a single stall that sold live animals, and, more specifically, to a metal cage, to carts used to move animals and to a machine used to remove birds’ feathers2. One of the report’s co-authors, virologist Eddie Holmes at the University of Sydney in Australia, had been to this stall in 2014 and snapped photographs — included in this study — of a live raccoon dog in a metal cage, stacked above crates of poultry, with the whole assembly sitting on top of sewer drains. Notably, in the study by researchers at the China CDC, sewage at the market tested positive for SARS-CoV-2.


This filthy market is not your suburb supermarket! Anyway, back to the story:
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Scientists have released three studies that reveal intriguing new clues about how the COVID-19 pandemic started. Two of the reports trace the outbreak back to a massive market that sold live animals, among other goods, in Wuhan, China1,2, and a third suggests that the coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 spilled over from animals — possibly those sold at the market — to humans at least twice in November or December 20193. Posted on 25 and 26 February, all three are preprints, and so have not been published in a peer-reviewed journal.

These analyses add weight to original suspicions that the pandemic began at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market, which many of the people who were infected earliest with SARS-CoV-2 had visited. The preprints contain genetic analyses of coronavirus samples collected from the market and from people infected in December 2019 and January 2020, as well as geolocation analyses connecting many of the samples to a section of the market where live animals were sold. Taken together, these lines of evidence point towards the market as the source of the outbreak — a situation akin to that seen in the epidemic of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in 2002–04, for which animal markets were found to be ground zero — says Kristian Andersen, a virologist at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California, and an author on two of the reports. “This is extremely strong evidence,” he says.


Quality of evidence is important!
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However, none of the studies contains definitive evidence about what type of animal might have harboured the virus before it spread to humans. Andersen speculates that the culprits could be raccoon dogs, squat dog-like mammals used for food and their fur in China. One of the studies he co-authored2 suggests that raccoon dogs were sold in a section of the market where several positive samples were collected. And reports4 show that the animals can harbour other types of coronavirus.

Nevertheless, some virologists say that the new evidence pointing to the Huanan market doesn’t rule out an alternative hypothesis. They say that the market could just have been the location of a massive amplifying event, in which an infected person spread the virus to many other people, rather than the site of the original spillover.


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“Analysis-wise, this is excellent work, but it remains open to interpretation,” says Vincent Munster, a virologist at the Rocky Mountain Laboratories, a division of the National Institutes of Health in Hamilton, Montana. He says that searching for SARS-CoV-2 and antibodies against it in blood samples collected from animals sold at the market, and from people who sold animals at the market, could provide more-definitive evidence of COVID-19’s origins.


So we have evidence that the wet market DID have COVID19 in animal cages etc. Now to tie the origin down further:
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Researchers then collected samples from poultry, snakes, badgers, giant salamanders, Siamese crocodiles and other animals sold there. They also swabbed drains, cages, toilets and vendors’ stalls in search of the pathogen. Following an investigation led by the World Health Organization (WHO), researchers released a report in March 2021 showing that all of the nearly 200 samples collected directly from animals were negative, but that around 1,000 environmental samples from the stalls and other areas of the market were positive.


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A team in China including researchers at China’s Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has now sequenced genetic material recovered from those positive samples, and released the results in a preprint posted on 25 February1. The scientists confirm that the samples contain SARS-CoV-2 sequences almost identical to those that have been circulating in humans. Furthermore, they show that the two original virus lineages circulating at the start of the pandemic, called A and B, were both present at the market.

“It’s a nice piece of work,” says Ray Yip, an epidemiologist and a former director of the China branch of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “They’ve confirmed that the Huanan market was indeed a very important spreading location.”


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In one2, the team zeroed in on the southwestern section of the Huanan market, where live animals were sold as recently as 2019, as being the potential epicentre of the outbreak. The researchers arrived at this conclusion by compiling information on the first known COVID-19 cases in China, as reported by various sources, including the WHO investigation, newspaper articles, and audio and video recordings of doctors and patients in Wuhan. This geospatial analysis found that 156 cases that occurred in December 2019 clustered tightly around the market, with cases gradually becoming more dispersed across Wuhan during January and February 2020.

The authors also examined the locations of the positive samples collected in the market, as reported in the WHO study, and fleshed out information about the potential surroundings of these spots by collecting business registration information, photographs of the market before it closed and scientific reports that have emerged since the WHO’s investigation. For example, one paper published last year5 documented some 47,000 animals — including 31 protected species — sold in Wuhan markets between 2017 and 2019.

One major finding reported by Andersen and colleagues is the mapping of five positive samples from the market to a single stall that sold live animals, and, more specifically, to a metal cage, to carts used to move animals and to a machine used to remove birds’ feathers2. One of the report’s co-authors, virologist Eddie Holmes at the University of Sydney in Australia, had been to this stall in 2014 and snapped photographs — included in this study — of a live raccoon dog in a metal cage, stacked above crates of poultry, with the whole assembly sitting on top of sewer drains. Notably, in the study by researchers at the China CDC, sewage at the market tested positive for SARS-CoV-2.


Unhygenic, unhealthy place! One like it in Alabama or Arkansas started the “Spanish Flu” epidemic!

Tying the likely source, the wet market, further down:
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In a second report3, Andersen and his colleagues concluded that, genetically, lineage A and lineage B of SARS-CoV-2 are too different from one another for one to have evolved into the other quickly in humans. Therefore, they suggest that the coronavirus must have evolved in non-human animals and that the two lineages spread to humans separately. For a few reasons, including the fact that lineage B was much more prevalent in January 2020, the authors suggest that it spilled over into humans before lineage A. Other outbreaks of coronaviruses, such as the SARS and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS) epidemics, also resulted from repeated introductions from wildlife, the paper notes.

Taking all of the new data together, and adding a degree of speculation, Andersen suggests that raccoon dogs could have been infected on a farm that then sold the animals at the markets in Wuhan in November or December 2019, and that the virus might have jumped to people handling them or to buyers. On at least two occasions, those infections could have spread from an index case to other people, he says.


So, two variants, found close enough together one could not have mutated in people, were found at the wet market. Good enough evidence?

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Over the past year, Michael Worobey, a virologist at the University of Arizona in Tucson and a co-author on the papers with Andersen2,3, says that his thinking on the origins of COVID-19 has shifted. In May 2021, he led a letter published in Science6 in which he and others pressed the scientific community to keep an open mind about whether the pandemic stemmed from a laboratory, a controversial hypothesis suggesting that SARS-CoV-2 was either created in a lab or was accidentally or intentionally released by researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. “You want to take this kind of thing seriously,” he explains.


After the WHO report: what’s next in the search for COVID’s origins

But since then, other evidence has come to light that supports a zoonotic origin story similar to that of HIV, Zika virus, Ebola virus and multiple influenza viruses, he says. “When you look at all of the evidence, it is clear that this started at the market.” Separate lines of analysis point to it, he says, and it’s extremely improbable that two distinct lineages of SARS-CoV-2 could have been derived from a laboratory and then coincidentally ended up at the market.


So the lab recedes as likely source of COVID19.

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Reply #644 - Jul 14th, 2022 at 8:10pm
 
But the lab is not definitively ruled out:

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Nonetheless, Munster says he is not completely convinced of two spillover events because the virus might have evolved from one lineage into the other in a person who was immunocompromised. He adds that more data collected from people and animals is needed to answer this question, and to show that the first spillover occurred at the Huanan market. David Relman, a microbiologist at Stanford University in California, agrees that the preprints are not definitive, and that they exclude the possibility that people were infected prior to the outbreak at the market, but went undiagnosed.

Holmes fears that additional samples from early human cases and from animals might never materialize. Last July, for example, Chinese officials said that they planned to analyse patient blood samples from 2019, stored at the Wuhan Blood Center — but if that study has been conducted, it has yet to be made public. “This is as good as it gets,” Holmes says. “What we should focus on now is trying to keep these events from happening again.”


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00584-8

Indeed and unsanitary nightmares of “wet markets” need to be called out for what they are and banned and banished as rapidly as possible.

So it isn’t likely that the virus was created and leaked by the Wuhan lab but just barely possible that the people with the two variants of the disease visited the market and spread it there and the market then massively spread the disease.

I prefer Occam’s Razor—the simples explanation is usually the correct one. The market caused the COVID19 pandemic.
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