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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #15 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Hi FD,
do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

FD never answers me. Cry

Aw. poor, Bobby. Not to worry, FD doesn't answer questions from anybody. He considers them beneath him. Only he has the right to ask questions and expects everybody to answer him. Roll Eyes

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #16 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:20pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Hi FD,
do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

FD never answers me. Cry

Aw. poor, Bobby. Not to worry, FD doesn't answer questions from anybody. He considers them beneath him. Only he has the right to ask questions and expects everybody to answer him. Roll Eyes

I know,

do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #17 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:33pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:40pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:25pm:

I quoted you explaining your own infallibility

No you didn't.

What you seem to be saying is that if you make statements of fact like "all muslims support genocide", I'm supposed to see into it some invisible disclaimer that reads something like "nah, just kidding".

For the rest of us, we simply don't state something as fact that we don't actually know is fact.

No? Well, how about porkies?

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #18 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 11:35pm

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Is it possible you could be wrong about this Gandalf?

That is impossible.

Believers are the 'rightly guided' people.

And the 'rightly guided' people are inerrant, so long as they believe, and obey, the book of truth [the Koran].

It is the disbelievers [who disobey Allah and disobey ISLAMIC law] who are always in error.

Because THEY, are not 'rightly guided'. [...because they disobey Allah and disobey ISLAMIC law.]

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Those who believe, are the rightly guided

"Those who believe and obscure not their belief by wrongdoing, theirs is safety; and they are rightly guided."
Koran 6.82

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In following the commands of Allah [in the Koran] the believer is the rightly guided person.

The believer has that assurance from Allah.

Allah stated this [in the Koran].

Ergo; There is nothing more to argue about.

Those who believe, are correct [i.e. rightly guided].

Those who disbelieve, are in error.

And that logical truth, is taught, in every mosque.

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #19 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Hi FD,
do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

FD never answers me. Cry

Aw. poor, Bobby. Not to worry, FD doesn't answer questions from anybody. He considers them beneath him. Only he has the right to ask questions and expects everybody to answer him. Roll Eyes

I know,

do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

Nope. Do you? Roll Eyes

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #20 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:06pm

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:25pm:

I quoted you explaining your own infallibility. Is this a Muslim thing, or a Gandalf special?

You have stated twice in this thread already that its a muslim thing.

What is it with you and stating things as fact only for you to reveal later you had no idea was fact in the first place?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #21 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:52pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Hi FD,
do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

FD never answers me. Cry

Aw. poor, Bobby. Not to worry, FD doesn't answer questions from anybody. He considers them beneath him. Only he has the right to ask questions and expects everybody to answer him. Roll Eyes

I know,

do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

Nope. Do you? Roll Eyes

No I don't believe in it -
it's religious nonsense.

However 1.2 billion Catholics do.
They think the Pope is infallible.

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #22 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 7:24pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:06pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:25pm:

I quoted you explaining your own infallibility. Is this a Muslim thing, or a Gandalf special?

You have stated twice in this thread already that its a muslim thing.

What is it with you and stating things as fact only for you to reveal later you had no idea was fact in the first place?

Is it theoretically possible for Muslims to be wrong Gandalf?

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #23 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 8:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Hi FD,
do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

FD never answers me. Cry

Aw. poor, Bobby. Not to worry, FD doesn't answer questions from anybody. He considers them beneath him. Only he has the right to ask questions and expects everybody to answer him. Roll Eyes

I know,

do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

Nope. Do you? Roll Eyes

No I don't believe in it -
it's religious nonsense.

However 1.2 billion Catholics do.
They think the Pope is infallible.

Bobby, there is a difference between what the Church proclaims and what Catholic laity believe. Roll Eyes

Just as there is a difference between what most Muslims believe and what Islam proclaims... Roll Eyes

You appear to believe that being a member of a religion immediately robs a person of independent thought and views on a matter.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47364 At my desk.	Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong Reply #24 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 9:48pm Gandalf, Muhammad only claimed to be infallible when officially speaking on God's behalf. Is your own infallibility better than Muhammad's?
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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #25 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 9:58pm

freediver wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 7:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:06pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:25pm:

I quoted you explaining your own infallibility. Is this a Muslim thing, or a Gandalf special?

You have stated twice in this thread already that its a muslim thing.

What is it with you and stating things as fact only for you to reveal later you had no idea was fact in the first place?

Is it theoretically possible for Muslims to be wrong Gandalf?

No no FD, you've got your clever meme, you run with it. Don't let me spoil all your fun with boring things like facts and common sense.

Meanwhile, have you worked out the problem with saying something could be wrong while simultaneously maintaining that it is true (quotes in reply# 12 if you need reminding)?

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #26 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 8:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Hi FD,
do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

FD never answers me. Cry

Aw. poor, Bobby. Not to worry, FD doesn't answer questions from anybody. He considers them beneath him. Only he has the right to ask questions and expects everybody to answer him. Roll Eyes

I know,

do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

Nope. Do you? Roll Eyes

No I don't believe in it -
it's religious nonsense.

However 1.2 billion Catholics do.
They think the Pope is infallible.

Bobby, there is a difference between the Church proclaims and what Catholic laity believe. Roll Eyes

Just as there is a difference between what most Muslims believe and what Islam proclaims... Roll Eyes

You appear to believe that being a member of a religion immediately robs a person of independent thought and views on a matter.

Just by being a Catholic you must believe in the doctrine of the infallibility of the Pope.
It's the same as Muslims believe that they can't be wrong.

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #27 - Jan 28^th, 2020 at 11:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 8:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:52pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:20pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:07pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Hi FD,
do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

FD never answers me. Cry

Aw. poor, Bobby. Not to worry, FD doesn't answer questions from anybody. He considers them beneath him. Only he has the right to ask questions and expects everybody to answer him. Roll Eyes

I know,

do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

Nope. Do you? Roll Eyes

No I don't believe in it -
it's religious nonsense.

However 1.2 billion Catholics do.
They think the Pope is infallible.

Bobby, there is a difference between the Church proclaims and what Catholic laity believe. Roll Eyes

Just as there is a difference between what most Muslims believe and what Islam proclaims... Roll Eyes

You appear to believe that being a member of a religion immediately robs a person of independent thought and views on a matter.

Just by being a Catholic you must believe in the doctrine of the infallibility of the Pope.
It's the same as Muslims believe that they can't be wrong.

You haven't discussed this with many Catholics, have you, Bobby? Roll Eyes

Australian Catholics are perhaps more independent than most Catholics. Few would accept that the Pope was supposedly infallible.

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