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theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:22pm

unless they say they are...

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:19pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 1:29pm:

So when you say that you acknowledge the theoretical possibility that you are wrong, this only applies to those statements you issue with a caveat that there is a theoretical possibility that you are wrong?

umm.. yes FD. How could it be anything else?

Again, you are not having difficulty with this. It simply isn't possible.

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Reply #1 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:40pm

This is the thread where FD announces to the world that he literally doesn't understand how saying "all muslims support genocide" could possibly be "stating as fact" that all muslims support genocide.

Oh wait, you seem to have forgotten to mention that this was what we were actually discussing. Funny that.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #2 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:42pm

Just like the infallible Pope.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_infallibility

Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church."[1] Infallibility is, according to the New Catholic Encyclopedia, "more than a simple, de facto absence of error. It is a positive perfection, ruling out the possibility of error"

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #3 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:52pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

This is the thread where FD announces to the world that he literally doesn't understand how saying "all muslims support genocide" could possibly be "stating as fact" that all muslims support genocide.

Oh wait, you seem to have forgotten to mention that this was what we were actually discussing. Funny that.

I started a new thread on the infallibility of Muslims on the internet.

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Reply #4 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 1:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

This is the thread where FD announces to the world that he literally doesn't understand how saying "all muslims support genocide" could possibly be "stating as fact" that all muslims support genocide.

Come come, G, we won't have that.

This is the thread where FD announces to the world that Muslims say they can never be wrong. It must be in the Quran or something.

You said so yourself, remember, when you said you'd admit it if you were wrong or any of your claims are unproven.

FD always says when he's wrong or can't back up a claim with evidence. He's quite clear on that.

Therefore, I think we can safely say that it's theoretically possible for Whitey to tell porkies in his campaign against the Muselman, no?

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Reply #5 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:23pm

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:52pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

This is the thread where FD announces to the world that he literally doesn't understand how saying "all muslims support genocide" could possibly be "stating as fact" that all muslims support genocide.

Oh wait, you seem to have forgotten to mention that this was what we were actually discussing. Funny that.

I started a new thread on the infallibility of Muslims on the internet.

Yes, and this is apparently achieved by quoting yourself wondering how on earth there could be anything wrong with contunuing to stand by a claim you stated as fact - while simultaneously acknowledging that it might not actually be a fact.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong Reply #6 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:25pm I quoted you explaining your own infallibility. Is this a Muslim thing, or a Gandalf special?
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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #7 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:38pm

For anyone who can be bothered looking at this thread, FD's position that he can't possibly see anything contradictory or wrong with, is quite simply this:

FD makes, and stands by two positions simultaneously:

1. To claim that "All muslims support genocide" made in this thread, and reaffirmed several times throughout the thread

and...

2. To acknowledge that its possible that not all muslims do support genocide.

While for any rational thinking person it is obvious that expressing position 2 immediately invalidates position 1 (you can't keep thinking something is an unquestioned fact while simultaneously acknowledging its wrong - obviously) Yet somehow this kindergarten level logic is apparently beyond FD.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #8 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:40pm

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:25pm:

I quoted you explaining your own infallibility

No you didn't.

What you seem to be saying is that if you make statements of fact like "all muslims support genocide", I'm supposed to see into it some invisible disclaimer that reads something like "nah, just kidding".

For the rest of us, we simply don't state something as fact that we don't actually know is fact. Bizarre behaviour, I know.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #9 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm

freediver wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:52pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 12:40pm:

This is the thread where FD announces to the world that he literally doesn't understand how saying "all muslims support genocide" could possibly be "stating as fact" that all muslims support genocide.

Oh wait, you seem to have forgotten to mention that this was what we were actually discussing. Funny that.

I started a new thread on the infallibility of Muslims on the internet.

Hi FD,
do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope?

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #10 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:38pm:

For anyone who can be bothered looking at this thread, FD's position that he can't possibly see anything contradictory or wrong with, is quite simply this:

FD makes, and stands by two positions simultaneously:

1. To claim that "All muslims support genocide" made in this thread, and reaffirmed several times throughout the thread

and...

2. To acknowledge that its possible that not all muslims do support genocide.

While for any rational thinking person it is obvious that expressing position 2 immediately invalidates position 1 (you can't keep thinking something is an unquestioned fact while simultaneously acknowledging its wrong - obviously) Yet somehow this kindergarten level logic is apparently beyond FD.

Is it possible you could be wrong about this Gandalf?

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Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong
Reply #11 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 8:13pm

About what exactly FD? - about what you said, or the logic that its contradictory to assert something as fact while simultaneously suggesting it might not actually be a fact?

We can easily sort out the first by you answering this simple question: do you still stand by your statement that "all muslims support genocide"? I'm hoping the second comes under the category of "mindnumbingly obvious"

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #12 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 8:33pm

FD's image should appear under the dictionary's definition of 'confusion'.

Apparently a statement can be both 'true' and 'theoretically wrong' at the same time.

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2019 at 5:52pm:

I made the claim [that all muslims support genocide] because you would fail to disprove it, because it is true.

said right after...

freediver wrote on May 16^th, 2019 at 6:52pm:

It is theoretically possible that I am wrong.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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freediver Gold Member Online www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47369 At my desk.	Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong Reply #13 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 9:06pm Gandalf are all Muslims infallible, or just you?
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Bobby. Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 95282 Melbourne Gender:	Re: theoretically impossible for Muslims to be wrong Reply #14 - Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:07pm Bobby. wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:48pm: Hi FD, do you believe in the infallibility of the Pope? FD never answers me.
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