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The $50 Billion French Submarine Deal (Read 6183 times)
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Reply #45 - Jan 21st, 2020 at 7:30pm
 
Jasin wrote on Jan 21st, 2020 at 7:17pm:
I know of a major Naval stuff up that could have cost many lives of its cadets.

Luckily the volunteer Marine Rescue saved them in hard seas and weather.

The Marine Rescue was 'ordered' to keep their mouths shut and not go to the Media (or alert the parents).


...and where were the Police in regards to this obvious 'crime'? Huh

Yeah right.  Roll Eyes



The Navy is well known for covering up their huge mistakes.
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Reply #46 - Jan 28th, 2020 at 7:24pm
 
"An investigation by The Weekend Australian reveals discrepancies between Defence's official account and first-hand accounts now circulating in Perth from the Farncomb's crew."

So they didn't actually interview the crew, they reported second hand conversations people claimed to have had with the crew.

Top reporting there...
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Reply #47 - Jan 29th, 2020 at 1:45am
 
Reckon the French will pull the pin on this deal soon.
Too many problems in their own country to worry about conning more money out of Australia for Subs that will never materialise.
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Reply #48 - Feb 13th, 2020 at 8:16pm
 
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Reply #49 - Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm
 
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked

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Reply #50 - Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:24pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm:
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked



And you know this because?

What alternatives are there, Captain?   No one else around the world produces conventional powered submarines, apart from the Japanese that could buy...


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Reply #51 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 9:44am
 
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Reply #52 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:33am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:24pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm:
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked



And you know this because?

What alternatives are there, Captain?   No one else around the world produces conventional powered submarines, apart from the Japanese that could buy...





That's the problem.

We should have purchased off the shelf nuclear powered subs.

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Reply #53 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 12:11pm
 
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Reply #54 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 12:28pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:24pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm:
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked



And you know this because?

What alternatives are there, Captain?   No one else around the world produces conventional powered submarines, apart from the Japanese that could buy...





That's the problem.

We should have purchased off the shelf nuclear powered subs.




Of course we should have.
It's just like the Seasprite helicopter
where they kept changing the design
until $billions was wasted and
then they cancelled it all.

The Dept of Defence never learns.
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Reply #55 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 1:11pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:24pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm:
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked



And you know this because?

What alternatives are there, Captain?   No one else around the world produces conventional powered submarines, apart from the Japanese that could buy...







Germany, Japan, Sweden

That's the problem.

We should have purchased off the shelf nuclear powered subs.


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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #56 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 2:25pm
 
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:24pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm:
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked



And you know this because?

What alternatives are there, Captain?   No one else around the world produces conventional powered submarines, apart from the Japanese that could buy...


That's the problem.

We should have purchased off the shelf nuclear powered subs.


So, we need to distort our defence budget appreciably?  We don't manufacture nuclear reactors.   We don't enrich Uranium.   We would need to have both things occur overseas.   We would lose our submarines for approximately six months to a year every three years as they refueled.   We don't have nuclear technicians or engineers.   We would be dependent on who ever supplies the boats.   Not a good deal IMO, Captain.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #57 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 2:27pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 12:28pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:24pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm:
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked



And you know this because?

What alternatives are there, Captain?   No one else around the world produces conventional powered submarines, apart from the Japanese that could buy...





That's the problem.

We should have purchased off the shelf nuclear powered subs.




Of course we should have.
It's just like the Seasprite helicopter
where they kept changing the design
until $billions was wasted and
then they cancelled it all.

The Dept of Defence never learns.


The Navy never seems to learn, Bobby.   The rest of defence does seem to learn.   Roll Eyes
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Reply #58 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 2:29pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 1:11pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:24pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm:
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked



And you know this because?

What alternatives are there, Captain?   No one else around the world produces conventional powered submarines, apart from the Japanese that could buy...


Germany, Japan, Sweden

That's the problem.

We should have purchased off the shelf nuclear powered subs.



Fine, in theory.  However, neither Germany nor Sweden bid on the contract.   It was either Japan or France.   They chose France.   They believed that France offered a better deal.    Are you suggesting that the Government should go a more expensive deal?

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Re: The $50 Billion French Submarine Deal
Reply #59 - Feb 14th, 2020 at 2:37pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 2:25pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 14th, 2020 at 10:33am:
Brian Ross wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:24pm:
Captain Nemo wrote on Feb 13th, 2020 at 9:09pm:
This deal has been, is and will always be: an unmitigated disaster.  Shocked



And you know this because?

What alternatives are there, Captain?   No one else around the world produces conventional powered submarines, apart from the Japanese that could buy...


That's the problem.

We should have purchased off the shelf nuclear powered subs.


So, we need to distort our defence budget appreciably?  We don't manufacture nuclear reactors.   We don't enrich Uranium.   We would need to have both things occur overseas.   We would lose our submarines for approximately six months to a year every three years as they refueled.   We don't have nuclear technicians or engineers.   We would be dependent on who ever supplies the boats.   Not a good deal IMO, Captain.  Roll Eyes





Rubbish - the subs go for up to 20 years before needing new nuclear fuel:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refueling_and_overhaul

"Time periods between ROHs on a ship have varied historically from about 5–20 years (for submarines) to up to 25 years"



forgiven for ignorance

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