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Reply #91 - Jan 12^th, 2020 at 6:35am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 7:19pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 5:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 4:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 3:55pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 3:45pm:

well a pat on the back at times like this is maybe all they will get...I dont know what you have done or are able to do right now to help.. I am not in a great position to do much other than say thanks...and cheer them on...

does that offend you??..

I am curious!

Why would it offend me, Cods? Yes, a pat on the back is all they will be likely to receive. Unlike some overseas militaries, medals are not awarded for national emergencies downunder. Roll Eyes

wont it get up your nose if Abbott gets a medal... Grin

I am sure a few medals will be out there and rightly so...would I put myself in the line of fire.. NO and I bet you wouldnt either..

If Tone gets a medal, I don't doubt he'll deserve it, Cods. [highligh[/highlight]roved himself to be a good man as a fire fighter but he still remains one of Australia's worst Prime Ministers, He denied Climate Change and now the people of Australia are paying the price. Roll Eyes

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really WHERE HAVE I EVER CRITICISED A MEDAL??

Where did I suggest you had, Cods? Please reread what I said. Roll Eyes

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Unlike you, I accept that some people, even the people who I dislike in a particular role might well be quite brave in another role. Tone has proved himself to be a good man as a fire fighter

RIGHT THERE...

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he didnt deny CLIMATE CHANGE neither do I... its just the reasons for it we havent been sold on....

Since being deposed as PM has has openly denied Climate Change, Cods. He didn't arrive at that viewpoint overnight.

I have never claimed that you, personally ever denied Climate Change, Cods. :

just hints I get it..

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tell me! someone cant think where suggested we "deniers" as you call us are the reason for these fires.

I am wondering if we all suddenly said YES HUMANS ARE RESPONSIBLE would that reverse CLIMATE CHANGE??????

It might start humanity down the track to reversing it, Cods. As the ancient Chinese proverb suggests, "the journey of a thousand li starts with the first step." Stop denying that Global Warming/Climate Change exists and we might be able to take that first step. The Denialists are still squabbling whether to use their their Left or Right foot to step off IMHO,

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if we stopped selling coal lets say back in gillards time... what effect would that have on this? would you believe we wouldnt be having these fires????

btw Australia isnt the only country that sells coal..

If we had stopped selling coal under Guillard, these fires would in all likelihood be of a lower intensity than they are, Cods. The changing climate has induced the existing drought and the existing drought has dried out the eastern seaboard of Australia.

SO THE COUNTRIES THAT ACTUALLY BURN COAL WOULDNT STILL BE BURNING COAL JUST NOT AUSTRALIAN.

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THAT MAKES SENSE TO SOME...

No one has suggested that Australia is the only country that sells coal, We are the largest coal mining country in the Pacific region though. If we ceased mining it, the coal users would either seek an alternative fuel source or an alternative fuel, which would decrease the effects of climate change around the world. You appear unable to unwilling to think this issue through. Roll Eyes

YOU DONT GET IT AT ALL

ITS THE COUNTRIES THAT BURN COAL THAT CAUSE THE MAIN PROBLEM......NOT THOSE THAT DIG IT UP...

HOW ABOUT YOU AND GRETA ATTACK THE REAL CULPRITS.... WE ALL KNOW IF AUSTRALIA STOPS DIGGING UP COAL IT WILL CRIPPLE OUR ECONOMY AND AFFECT EVERYONE OF US..........YET THE REAL CULPRITS AS YOU AND GRETA SEE THEM WILL STILL BE LEADING THEIR LIVES OF RILEY...AND WE NEVER HEAR A WORD ABOUT THEM ... CERTAINLY NO PROTESTERS BURNING CHINESE FLAGS..

WHEN YOU START A PROTEST AND BURN CHINESE FLAGS DOWN AT THE CHINESE EMBASSY LET ME KNOW BRI I WILL BE THERE TO FILM IT IN LIVING COLOUR.. Wink

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Reply #92 - Jan 12^th, 2020 at 6:43am

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 6:35am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 7:19pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 5:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 4:32pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 4:05pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 3:55pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 3:45pm:

well a pat on the back at times like this is maybe all they will get...I dont know what you have done or are able to do right now to help.. I am not in a great position to do much other than say thanks...and cheer them on...

does that offend you??..

I am curious!

Why would it offend me, Cods? Yes, a pat on the back is all they will be likely to receive. Unlike some overseas militaries, medals are not awarded for national emergencies downunder. Roll Eyes

wont it get up your nose if Abbott gets a medal... Grin

I am sure a few medals will be out there and rightly so...would I put myself in the line of fire.. NO and I bet you wouldnt either..

If Tone gets a medal, I don't doubt he'll deserve it, Cods. [highligh[/highlight]roved himself to be a good man as a fire fighter but he still remains one of Australia's worst Prime Ministers, He denied Climate Change and now the people of Australia are paying the price. Roll Eyes

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really WHERE HAVE I EVER CRITICISED A MEDAL??

Where did I suggest you had, Cods? Please reread what I said. Roll Eyes

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Unlike you, I accept that some people, even the people who I dislike in a particular role might well be quite brave in another role. Tone has proved himself to be a good man as a fire fighter

RIGHT THERE...

Quote:

he didnt deny CLIMATE CHANGE neither do I... its just the reasons for it we havent been sold on....

Since being deposed as PM has has openly denied Climate Change, Cods. He didn't arrive at that viewpoint overnight.

I have never claimed that you, personally ever denied Climate Change, Cods. :

just hints I get it..

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tell me! someone cant think where suggested we "deniers" as you call us are the reason for these fires.

I am wondering if we all suddenly said YES HUMANS ARE RESPONSIBLE would that reverse CLIMATE CHANGE??????

It might start humanity down the track to reversing it, Cods. As the ancient Chinese proverb suggests, "the journey of a thousand li starts with the first step." Stop denying that Global Warming/Climate Change exists and we might be able to take that first step. The Denialists are still squabbling whether to use their their Left or Right foot to step off IMHO,

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if we stopped selling coal lets say back in gillards time... what effect would that have on this? would you believe we wouldnt be having these fires????

btw Australia isnt the only country that sells coal..

If we had stopped selling coal under Guillard, these fires would in all likelihood be of a lower intensity than they are, Cods. The changing climate has induced the existing drought and the existing drought has dried out the eastern seaboard of Australia.

SO THE COUNTRIES THAT ACTUALLY BURN COAL WOULDNT STILL BE BURNING COAL JUST NOT AUSTRALIAN.

..

THAT MAKES SENSE TO SOME...

No one has suggested that Australia is the only country that sells coal, We are the largest coal mining country in the Pacific region though. If we ceased mining it, the coal users would either seek an alternative fuel source or an alternative fuel, which would decrease the effects of climate change around the world. You appear unable to unwilling to think this issue through. Roll Eyes

YOU DONT GET IT AT ALL

ITS THE COUNTRIES THAT BURN COAL THAT CAUSE THE MAIN PROBLEM......NOT THOSE THAT DIG IT UP...

HOW ABOUT YOU AND GRETA ATTACK THE REAL CULPRITS.... WE ALL KNOW IF AUSTRALIA STOPS DIGGING UP COAL IT WILL CRIPPLE OUR ECONOMY AND AFFECT EVERYONE OF US..........YET THE REAL CULPRITS AS YOU AND GRETA SEE THEM WILL STILL BE LEADING THEIR LIVES OF RILEY...AND WE NEVER HEAR A WORD ABOUT THEM ... CERTAINLY NO PROTESTERS BURNING CHINESE FLAGS..

WHEN YOU START A PROTEST AND BURN CHINESE FLAGS DOWN AT THE CHINESE EMBASSY LET ME KNOW BRI I WILL BE THERE TO FILM IT IN LIVING COLOUR.. Wink

https://theconversation.com/why-does-the-carmichael-coal-mine-need-to-use-so-muc...

Goes the same for all coal mines though. They use billions of litres a day just to mine the coal.

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Sir Spot of Borg Gold Member Offline WE ARE BORG Posts: 26460 Australia	Re: why NOW Reply #94 - Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:18am cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:03am: what does that have to do with CLIMATE CHANGE?.. Are you asking me? I was pointing out that you were wrong about the coal. It has to do with climate change because they are taking all our groundwater. Spot
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Reply #95 - Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:45am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:03am:

what does that have to do with CLIMATE CHANGE?..

Are you asking me?

I was pointing out that you were wrong about the coal.

It has to do with climate change because they are taking all our groundwater.

Spot

i dont seriously think you read your own links..

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What are the environmental effects of industrial-scale water usage on the basin?

Despite a net yearly decrease of 286,000ML in the water stored within the Great Artesian Basin, it is in no danger of running dry. The past 120 years of exploitation have used up less than 0.1% of the water stored.

they are BURNING NOTHING>>

when are you going to criticised the countries that BUY our coal and BURN IT>. Angry

or is it safer to put all the blame on Australia???

because it sure as hell looks that way!

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Reply #96 - Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:56am

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:45am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:03am:

what does that have to do with CLIMATE CHANGE?..

Are you asking me?

I was pointing out that you were wrong about the coal.

It has to do with climate change because they are taking all our groundwater.

Spot

i dont seriously think you read your own links..

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What are the environmental effects of industrial-scale water usage on the basin?

Despite a net yearly decrease of 286,000ML in the water stored within the Great Artesian Basin, it is in no danger of running dry. The past 120 years of exploitation have used up less than 0.1% of the water stored.

they are BURNING NOTHING>>

when are you going to criticised the countries that BUY our coal and BURN IT>. Angry

or is it safer to put all the blame on Australia???

because it sure as hell looks that way!

You are right i didnt read it. I dont feel like reading it all again. I just took the first link i saw.

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According to the US Department of Energy, total water used for coal mining in the United States (including water use for coal washing and cooling of drilling equipment) ranges from 70 million to 260 million gallons a day.

Research it yourself. My point is they are using the water.

Im not blaming australia for anything. Its foreign companies taking our groundwater.

burning coal isnt as detrimental for australia as taking all the water.

Obviously i chose a bad link before - it was lies prolly by a coal company itself.

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Reply #97 - Jan 12^th, 2020 at 9:36am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:56am:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:45am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:18am:

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 8:03am:

what does that have to do with CLIMATE CHANGE?..

Are you asking me?

I was pointing out that you were wrong about the coal.

It has to do with climate change because they are taking all our groundwater.

Spot

i dont seriously think you read your own links..

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What are the environmental effects of industrial-scale water usage on the basin?

Despite a net yearly decrease of 286,000ML in the water stored within the Great Artesian Basin, it is in no danger of running dry. The past 120 years of exploitation have used up less than 0.1% of the water stored.

they are BURNING NOTHING>>

when are you going to criticised the countries that BUY our coal and BURN IT>. Angry

or is it safer to put all the blame on Australia???

because it sure as hell looks that way!

You are right i didnt read it. I dont feel like reading it all again. I just took the first link i saw.

good for you
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According to the US Department of Energy, total water used for coal mining in the United States (including water use for coal washing and cooling of drilling equipment) ranges from 70 million to 260 million gallons a day.

Research it yourself. My point is they are using the water.

Im not blaming australia for anything. Its foreign companies taking our groundwater.

burning coal isnt as detrimental for australia as taking all the water.

Obviously i chose a bad link before - it was lies prolly by a coal company itself.

Spot

spot look at the demonstration we are having even today yes they do BLAME AUSTRALIA>>.

now the fires are here we are getting told its our reward Roll Eyes

... so we may as well be burning the coal...

I would go along with these group protestors... if they protested about CHINA AND INDIA...at the same time..

but they dont havent you noticed that?? I have yet to hear greta comment on them...and she has a bigger stage.....thats without talking oil producing countries.... Roll Eyes

who also never get a mention...

where is the level playing field in all that???

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Reply #98 - Jan 12^th, 2020 at 12:51pm

cods wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 6:35am:

YOU DONT GET IT AT ALL

ITS THE COUNTRIES THAT BURN COAL THAT CAUSE THE MAIN PROBLEM......NOT THOSE THAT DIG IT UP...

HOW ABOUT YOU AND GRETA ATTACK THE REAL CULPRITS.... WE ALL KNOW IF AUSTRALIA STOPS DIGGING UP COAL IT WILL CRIPPLE OUR ECONOMY AND AFFECT EVERYONE OF US..........YET THE REAL CULPRITS AS YOU AND GRETA SEE THEM WILL STILL BE LEADING THEIR LIVES OF RILEY...AND WE NEVER HEAR A WORD ABOUT THEM ... CERTAINLY NO PROTESTERS BURNING CHINESE FLAGS..

WHEN YOU START A PROTEST AND BURN CHINESE FLAGS DOWN AT THE CHINESE EMBASSY LET ME KNOW BRI I WILL BE THERE TO FILM IT IN LIVING COLOUR.. Wink

Cods, part of weaning a country off the excessive use of fossil fuels is not selling them the fossil fuels which feed their addiction.

I have no intention to burn anyone's flag, not even the Australian one, despite what you appear to believe. If you want to film yourself burning the PRC's flag outside the PRC's embassy, go for it, I won't stop you. Indeed, I look forward to you actively playing a role just as Scotty from Marketing has suggested his government will in reducing climate change.

Now, I fear this thread needs closing as it has started well and truly collapsing into personal abuse from all sides. Roll Eyes

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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour. Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe? Tsk, tsk, tsk... Roll Eyes

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