Brian Ross
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Panther wrote on Jan 1 st, 2020 at 6:41pm: Dnarever wrote on Jan 1 st, 2020 at 6:19pm: Panther wrote on Jan 1 st, 2020 at 6:11pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1 st, 2020 at 5:27pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Jan 1 st, 2020 at 2:41pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 1 st, 2020 at 1:41pm: Panther wrote on Jan 1 st, 2020 at 1:05pm: Mortdooley wrote on Jan 1 st, 2020 at 11:19am: Clearly you can't grasp the concept of the purpose for the electoral college. To make it as simple as possible, it was one of the conditions before smaller States would join the newly formed United States. Australia's Political System is:A Federal Parliamentary Democracy Constitutional Monarchy America's Political System is:Constitutional Republic The Electoral College is but one of many examples of the difference between a Democracy, where the Laws are made by a majority, leaving the Rights of the minority largely unprotected, & a Republic, where a Constitution protects the Rights of all the people from the will & dominance of a controlling majority. Australia, by your own admission also has a constitution. Therefore, your attempt to claim otherwise is based on bullshit, Panther. Tsk, tsk. Panther is not claiming we don't have a constitution numpty. But our system is a Parliamentary Democracy via a constitution approved by the British parliament with the monarch as head of state. However it is not a "Constitutional Monarchy" as Panther described it, easy mistake to make just as we make mistakes when discussing the Constitution and the electoral system of the United States Our Constitution was created by Australians and was OK'ed by Australian voters. So, you're claim is false. We are effectively a "constitutional monarchy", with a foreign monarch who is absent and represented by her Governor-General whom is appointed by the Government of Australia. Don't like the Second Amendment.....too bad, you have no say in the process.....unless you are an American Citizen that is...
The Founding Fathers knew that the Constitution was not perfect, & would need to be changed from time to time. That said, they also knew that making it easy would have our sacred document changed at a whim, so they made it a bit difficult, so changing it would require a very broad consensus, & strong desire by the People.....the way it should be....
In over 220 years Americans have attempted to amend the US Constitution over 12,000 times.........& has only been approved through Congress by super-majority (2/3rds) vote in each Chamber & then sent to the American People for Ratification, where the People have only approved change 17 times successfully.
So, change, remove, or amend the Second Amendment........A Right of the American People, never been done before?....Nope....no Right of the American People has ever been amended or removed in over 225 years.....Its never been done for that matter......so not likely, if even possible at all......the Right is Inalienable! The second amendment was effectively changed outside of this process in 2008 when a politically motivated NRA sponsored attack on it occurred via the courts. The first dozen words were effectively re defined to have no meaning as desired by the NRA. Yes inalienable my arse. The second amendment is a relic of a time long past. When the amendment was written the need for arms to support the militia was a genuine as written in the dictionary need of the times. Now it is dishonestly dismissed as a prefatory clause which changes the full meaning of the amendment from 2008 on. Wrong DuckBoy.....not changed one bit, the SCOTUS, in 2008, was asked for the very first time to interpret the Right to Bear Arms, the Second Amendment......asked to perform one of the Court's primary functions....to interpret & define the US Constitution........[/highlight]for the very first time in the our Nations 225+ year History. It did so, & their decision, as with all their decisions, becomes the way all American Law must be adhered to. So it wasn't changed, it merely was ' clarified' for all Americans.....especially the Government......for all time unless Amended. Except the US Government has introduced regulations which do abridge the supposed "right" of US citizens to keep and arm bears, right, Panther? You are not allowed to own fully-automatic firearms. You are not allowed to own "butt-stock" equipped firearms, right? There are numerous regulations which prevent you owning many different types of firearms and weapons. Your second-amendment has been regulated numerous times over the years and the NRA has stood by and allowed this to happen. Tsk, tsk.
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