cods wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 4:56pm:


Best keep away from that box of Fruity Lexia on the sideboard, Cods.  You're sounding more and more drunk all the time.  Tsk, tsk. 

cods wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 4:56pm:



finally, a subject you have first hand experience at

polite_gandalf wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 2:31pm:


Not really, but if Hitler had succeeded in creating his thousand year Reich, we would have another Islam on our hands by now.

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Muhammad's habit of slaughtering Jews perhaps.

John Smith wrote on Dec 22^nd, 2019 at 9:08pm:


Nazis and Muslims. Why did you respond with the line about people being free to believe whatever religion they want? Does that explain why you think both Muslims and Nazis should be protected from ridicule? Or are you still working on your spineless apologetics routine for Hitler?

John Smith wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 8:46pm:


Are you suggesting Muhammad did not slaughter Jews? Or that the facts don't matter when you are defending Islam and Nazism?

Who would agree that Jewish bankers had a lot to answer for
and also to blame for the rise of Hitler?


https://archive.org/stream/HowHitlerDefiedTheInternationalBankers/HowHitlerDefie...

freediver wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 9:02pm:



bingo

freediver wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 9:02pm:



is that what i said fd, or is that what you said?


you couldn't have an honest debate if your life depended on it.

freediver wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 8:43pm:


Then your attempts to equate this ruling with a ban on ridiculing Nazis is invalid - notwithstanding what JS said about it. The law that Cottrel was convicted for was specifically about religion.


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Even Islam has firm roots in the Abrhamic religious tradition. It is basically a modified version of Judaism - as Christianity was before it.

It is patently absurd to compare Islam with Nazism - if for no other reason that Islam is so clearly spiritually based, related to the worship of an all supreme deity, and the spiritual preparation for the afterlife. And nothing you say in pretending that peripheral issues about Muhammad's earthly/political exploits is the only thing that Islam is about is going to change that. The 5 pillars are what Islam is about, not alleged massacres of jews. Nazism on the other hand is purely concerned with earthly material matters. There is no God or afterlife or worship in Nazism. Your attempts to equate the two by comparing the political and military dimensions of Hitler with Muhammad misses the most obvious point that Hitler was never claiming to lead a movement on behalf of a deity and/or spiritual enlightenment.

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Nazism literally had solving "the Jewish question" as a central tenet to its ideology. Scapegoating and demonizing jews for all the world's problems was central to Nazi philosophy. Its all there in Mein Kampf. The Quran on the other hand reaffirms Old Testament jewish traditions and holds up jews as 'people of the book'. As scholars have pointed out, there is no demonization of jews, especially not the scapegoating and betrayal narratives that became a feature of western christian tradition (and by extension Nazi tradition).

Unlike the holocaust, no one can seriously suggest that the alleged Banu Qurayza massacre (which by the way, pretty much no muslim would consider a relevant aspect of the religion of Islam) was a natural fulfillment of racist and inciteful doctrine.