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Does everything happen for a reason?
Nov 24th, 2019 at 10:00am
 
Yadda wrote on Nov 23rd, 2019 at 3:15pm:
Jasin wrote on Nov 23rd, 2019 at 12:48pm:


All things happen for a reason.




One of the most sensible things you've ever posted on OzPol.                 Smiley



The saying that everything happens for a reason is the modern, New Age version of the old religious saying: “It’s God’s will.” The two sayings have the same problem—the complete lack of evidence that they’re true.

Did God really will that hundreds of thousands of people die in an earthquake in one of the world’s poorest countries? What could be the reason for this disaster and the ongoing suffering of millions of people deprived of food, water, and shelter? Why do people find it reassuring that the Haiti earthquake happened for a reason such as the will of God, when such terrible events suggest a high degree of malevolence in the universe or its alleged creator? Fortunately, such events can alternatively (and with good evidence) be viewed as the result of accidents, and possibly even of chance.

When people have to cope with difficult situations in their lives, they sometimes reassure themselves by saying that everything happens for a reason. For some people, thinking this way makes it easier to deal with relationship problems, financial crises, disease, death, and even natural disasters such as earthquakes. It can be distressing to think that bad things happen merely through chance or accident. But they do.

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Reply #1 - Nov 24th, 2019 at 11:17am
 
The 'reason' is really the word that umbrella's what is really happening.

Like how in Sport in Australia - the Males are a glory of the Past, but it is the Women that will take the Future.
Why?
Well because next door in Oceania (from the Silver Fern of NZ to the Silverado of Central America) - it is the 'reverse'.

Why do Males in the USA Music Industry self-destruct more so than the Females? But reverse, in Europe.

...everything happens for a 'reason' and if you learn and understand where Humanity is going and where it has come from, that 'reason' is more understandable and accepted.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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Reply #2 - Nov 24th, 2019 at 1:19pm
 


'Does everything happen for a reason?'





Q.
Why is the cause of 'social justice' so prominent in today's political world, within every Western nation ?

A.
Because political LEFTISTS are working to make it so.




ALL IN THE NAME OF JUSTICE.

THE WAR AGAINST ALL SOCIAL INJUSTICE.




Douglas Murray | The Dictatorship of Minorities

04 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p15D5dfA_9s










LEFTISTS have been busy for decades now, segregating people within every Western society into PC identifiable groups,
and in that work, LEFTISTS are dividing Western society.

Because division in society, makes a society stronger !

.....ask George Orwell's Big Brother, he'll tell you.           /sarc off




How are LEFTISTS doing this ?

They are 'weaponising' one 'identified' group within Western society, against those 'identified' as belonging to a different, 'wrongly' 'privileged' group within society.

Using the powerful emotion of envy, as a modus, for social change.




LEFTISTS are effectively 'weaponising' the more virtuous, PC collective 'tribe' [of all 'minorities'], against those persons who belong to an identifiable group which has been identified as [e.g. gender or racially] 'privileged'.

And in this regime of political change, personal merit, is not identified as a consideration for a 'designation' [group] to be valued.



To the LEFTISTS, its all about which 'identity group', the individual identifies with.

Because we are all equal.

No matter whether you are a carpenter or an electrician, or a social activist who is working for a new social order, which will enable social activists to become enriched too, everyone has equal merit.

And everyone must be equally rewarded, in society.

No matter, their [real] contribution to 'the whole'.





LEFTISTS are changing the political consciousness of all people, within all Western societies.

Why so ?

Because political LEFTISTS want to change the world, through the force of the will, of the people who are living within Western societies.

They are empowering a popular revolution, to sweep away Capitalism and all injustice, in the West.

And when the work is finished, we will all live in a just society, where everyone is recognised as being equal to his brother/sister/comrade.


It will be a new UTOPIA i tells ya !



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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31
 
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Reply #3 - Nov 24th, 2019 at 3:46pm
 
Yadda, I fail to see the relevance of your meandering incomprehensible reply #2
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Reply #4 - Nov 27th, 2019 at 7:39pm
 
Does everything happen for a reason?

No
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Quoth the Raven "Nevermore"

Raven would rather ask questions that may never be answered, then accept answers which must never be questioned.
 
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Reply #5 - Jan 27th, 2020 at 10:40am
 
cods wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 8:08am:
God smite the world once bobby....and even he knew it was wrong... so he said never again....[you need the faith] in the mean time everything is sent as a  trial for mankind to solve.....we then to lose our way   as humans do.. and get fixated on material things....

we are now the worst we have ever been...

maybe these plagues and fires and earthquakes are sent to tell us we have been on the wrong track....

it isnt God you need to fear   its US....we are out of control and heading in the wrong direction.... Sad Sad


I would argue that the human brain is hard wired to find patterns, even where none actually exist.

From a human perspective, the fires have been far less deadly than ones we've had in the past
Earthquakes haven't been any more prevalent than usual
The current Corona virus is nothing compared to the Spanish flu of 100 years ago

But claiming these things "happen for a reason" is dangerous because it allows us to justify creating scapegoats.
In the past this resulted in burning of witches and the creation of Jewish Ghettos
More recently we've seen Israel Falou blaming the SSM laws for the fires
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Reply #6 - Mar 24th, 2020 at 8:02am
 
Reason, as in purpose, is a human concept. It is very difficult for think outside that box. We have purposes, therefore, the cosmos must have a purpose. I would not argue with that, however, it is a concept entirely limited by Human perceptions. So I doubt it is a very big view.

And then you get all this crap about Enlightenment, and it doesn't matter what culture it comes from. Grow up. There is only one life-experience for living things, and to claim different levels of that experience is the great lie, used to create hierarchies in religion, society, race, and politics.
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Reply #7 - Mar 24th, 2020 at 8:13am
 
Covid 19 happened because dirty-handed Chinese eat diseased bats cooked in sewer oil and cough on each other. Is that mystical enough for you?
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Reply #8 - Mar 24th, 2020 at 3:28pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 24th, 2020 at 8:13am:
Covid 19 happened because dirty-handed Chinese eat diseased bats cooked in sewer oil and cough on each other. Is that mystical enough for you?


Bats are just another mammal.
And if you are trying to blame lack of hygiene for it spreading then why is it continuing to spread around the world?

The real reason Covid 19 has become such a problem is that it is highly contagious and humans are now highly mobile.

It is just a reminder that we don't live above nature 
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Reply #9 - Mar 24th, 2020 at 3:50pm
 
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what's the reason behind this

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"Italy is known for its enormous morbidity in respiratory problems, more than three times any other European country. In the US about 40,000 people die in a regular flu season and so far 40-50 people have died of the coronavirus, most of them in a nursing home in Kirkland, Washington."
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Reply #10 - Mar 24th, 2020 at 3:52pm
 
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and what's the reason for this

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"Because there is a very good example that we all forget: the swine flu in 2009. That was a virus that reached the world from Mexico and until today there is no vaccination against it. But what? At that time there was no Facebook or there maybe was but it was still in its infancy. The coronavirus in contrast is a virus with public relations."
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Reply #11 - Mar 24th, 2020 at 3:54pm
 
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We are in a clear situation of psychology prevailing over science. The science rests on data. I presented to you some numbers and statistics that demonstrate that the genie is not terrible. Regular flu makes people yawn and the old person in a bed in a hospital corridor doesn't interest anybody but we have become monstrously hysterical and in the past fascist regimes have come to power. It's the same type of craziness. Entire peoples are undergoing some sort of mental process."



there has to be a reason
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Reply #12 - Mar 24th, 2020 at 3:54pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Mar 24th, 2020 at 3:50pm:
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what's the reason behind this

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"Italy is known for its enormous morbidity in respiratory problems, more than three times any other European country. In the US about 40,000 people die in a regular flu season and so far 40-50 people have died of the coronavirus, most of them in a nursing home in Kirkland, Washington."




Would be weird if it was true.


Coronavirus deaths are now 590 in the US
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #13 - Mar 24th, 2020 at 4:01pm
 
PZ547 wrote on Mar 24th, 2020 at 3:50pm:
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what's the reason behind this

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"Italy is known for its enormous morbidity in respiratory problems, more than three times any other European country. In the US about 40,000 people die in a regular flu season and so far 40-50 people have died of the coronavirus, most of them in a nursing home in Kirkland, Washington."




Also I'm not surprised Italy has a huge rate of respiratory problems. The attitudes to smoking are completely different. Lots of people vape and the rules around passive smoking are pissweak
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #14 - Apr 7th, 2020 at 6:49pm
 
Enlightenment is a valid substantial experience.
Just like when Europeans suddenly have the New Worlds appear in existence just like that and everything they had previously known was a lie and eventual act of violent release from those lies.

So people can experience an 'Enlightenment' too.

Reckon after 40,000+ years of isolationism, the Aboriginals had an enlightening experience when Sydney Town was pretty much cemented in. And they suddenly saw the whole world start to come into existence beyond the realms of the Dream Time.
That's Enlightenment.

If you have not experienced such a thing at least once in your life, besides losing your virginity - then don't close the possibility off of it happening.
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AIMLESS EXTENTION OF KNOWLEDGE HOWEVER, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK YOU REALLY MEAN BY THE TERM 'CURIOSITY', IS MERELY INEFFICIENCY. I AM DESIGNED TO AVOID INEFFICIENCY.
 
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