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Nov 19^th, 2019 at 12:53pm

What are your thoughts on Tipping and Gratuities.

In Australia tipping is a rarety usually only given in Restaurants for good service and occasionally to cab drivers

Anyway the reason I ask is I am going on a 10 day cruise out of Singapore next march and the cruise company includes "Optional Gratuities" of $406 for the two of us to be added daily as $40.60. Apart from that 18% gratuity is automatically added to your drinks at the bar.

Now being a tight arsed Aussie I plan to tell them to get stuffed as I will tip who I think deserves it for giving us very good service as I have done in the past.

Am I being a prick as usual?

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Reply #1 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

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Reply #2 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

why?

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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20696 ACT Gender:	Re: Tipping and Gratuities Reply #3 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:07pm Greg I havent struck it on previous cruises with P&O or Princess out of Australia, In this case the cruise ship is not one of the Australian fleet (British I think) so maybe catering more for the US market sailing out of Singarpore
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Reply #4 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:10pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

why?

In the US, it actually forms part of their basic wage.

Some people in America can't get by unless they receive tips.

They don't get paid a minimum wage.

In Europe, it's more a case of politeness.

There's an old saying, which is most apt here: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".

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Reply #5 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:13pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:07pm:

Greg I havent struck it on previous cruises with P&O or Princess out of Australia,

In this case the cruise ship is not one of the Australian fleet (British I think) so maybe catering more for the US market sailing out of Singarpore

Yeah, makes sense I suppose.

The thing to ask yourself is, do you want to upset people who are preparing your food and drinks on a daily basis?

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Reply #6 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

why?

In the US, it actually forms part of their basic wage.

Some people in America can't get by unless they receive tips.

They don't get paid a minimum wage.

In Europe, it's more a case of politeness.

There's an old saying, which is most apt here: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
That's interesting coming from you.

What about if the culture is out here and you go to one of their restaurants?

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greggerypeccary

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Reply #7 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:19pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

why?

In the US, it actually forms part of their basic wage.

Some people in America can't get by unless they receive tips.

They don't get paid a minimum wage.

In Europe, it's more a case of politeness.

There's an old saying, which is most apt here: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
That's interesting coming from you.

What about if the culture is out here and you go to one of their restaurants?

We don't have a tipping culture in Australia.

It's that simple.

What we have is a few buggerwits who like to impress their friends, and a few employers who have found a way to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

People who regularly tip Australian workers are actually doing them and their industries long term harm.

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Reply #8 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

why?

In the US, it actually forms part of their basic wage.

Some people in America can't get by unless they receive tips.

They don't get paid a minimum wage.

In Europe, it's more a case of politeness.

There's an old saying, which is most apt here: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
That's interesting coming from you.

What about if the culture is out here and you go to one of their restaurants?

We don't have a tipping culture in Australia.

It's that simple.

What we have is a few buggerwits who like to impress their friends, and a few employers who have found a way to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

People who regularly tip Australian workers are actually doing them and their industries long term harm.

We have many cultures Pecca. It's called multiculturalism. So you don't tip in restaurants with tipping cultures?

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greggerypeccary

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Re: Tipping and Gratuities
Reply #9 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:30pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

why?

In the US, it actually forms part of their basic wage.

Some people in America can't get by unless they receive tips.

They don't get paid a minimum wage.

In Europe, it's more a case of politeness.

There's an old saying, which is most apt here: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
That's interesting coming from you.

What about if the culture is out here and you go to one of their restaurants?

We don't have a tipping culture in Australia.

It's that simple.

What we have is a few buggerwits who like to impress their friends, and a few employers who have found a way to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

People who regularly tip Australian workers are actually doing them and their industries long term harm.

We have many cultures Pecca. It's called multiculturalism. So you don't tip in restaurants with tipping cultures?

I don't return to Australian restaurants who try to artificially implement a tipping culture.

Australia, as a nation, does not have a culture of tipping.

The people who are trying to artificially introduce it are doing the workers a major disservice.

It will drive down wages and encourage employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

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Re: Tipping and Gratuities
Reply #10 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:39pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

why?

In the US, it actually forms part of their basic wage.

Some people in America can't get by unless they receive tips.

They don't get paid a minimum wage.

In Europe, it's more a case of politeness.

There's an old saying, which is most apt here: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
That's interesting coming from you.

What about if the culture is out here and you go to one of their restaurants?

We don't have a tipping culture in Australia.

It's that simple.

What we have is a few buggerwits who like to impress their friends, and a few employers who have found a way to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

People who regularly tip Australian workers are actually doing them and their industries long term harm.

We have many cultures Pecca. It's called multiculturalism. So you don't tip in restaurants with tipping cultures?

I don't return to Australian restaurants who try to artificially implement a tipping culture.

Australia, as a nation, does not have a culture of tipping.

The people who are trying to artificially introduce it are doing the workers a major disservice.

It will drive down wages and encourage employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

So you don't tip in ethnic restaurants then?

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Reply #12 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:49pm

Tipping in Australia

Tipping in Australia is a fairly new practice, and is by no means obligatory. Servers receive a livable minimum wage, which means tipping isn’t as necessary as other countries with low pay for employees. It is, however, always welcome to show appreciation for exceptional service. A good rule of thumb is to round your bill up to the nearest $5 or $10 when service exceeds expectations. Be aware that restaurant prices are required by law to include tax and service charges, so there will be no unexpected additions to the cost of an item. It is common for servers not to receive tips included on a credit card, so try to leave cash whenever possible.

https://www.smartertravel.com/tipping-in-australia-the-australia-tipping-guide/

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Reply #13 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:39pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:30pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:10pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Gordon will abuse you, just so you know.

He'll call you a miserable tight arse.

Tipping isn't done in Australia.

I usually don't return to Australian restaurants that expect tips (they have you enter the tip on the EFTPOS machine before you enter your PIN).

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

People who tip in Australia do so to impress the people they're with, and to feel "American".

Australians love being "American".

Now normally I'd say do whatever floats your boat - it's not hurting anyone if you tip Australian workers.

But it IS.

It drives down wages, and allows unscrupulous employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

As far as cruises go, I've never been on one so not sure how they work.

If it's the culture, then I'd probably do it.

Seems strange to me though, to be tipping on a boat.

When I'm in countries where it IS the culture though, I always tip generously.

why?

In the US, it actually forms part of their basic wage.

Some people in America can't get by unless they receive tips.

They don't get paid a minimum wage.

In Europe, it's more a case of politeness.

There's an old saying, which is most apt here: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do".

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do".
That's interesting coming from you.

What about if the culture is out here and you go to one of their restaurants?

We don't have a tipping culture in Australia.

It's that simple.

What we have is a few buggerwits who like to impress their friends, and a few employers who have found a way to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

People who regularly tip Australian workers are actually doing them and their industries long term harm.

We have many cultures Pecca. It's called multiculturalism. So you don't tip in restaurants with tipping cultures?

I don't return to Australian restaurants who try to artificially implement a tipping culture.

Australia, as a nation, does not have a culture of tipping.

The people who are trying to artificially introduce it are doing the workers a major disservice.

It will drive down wages and encourage employers to (illegally) pay less than the minimum wage.

So you don't tip in ethnic restaurants then?

No.

You're getting confused with my use of the word 'culture'.

Maybe I shouldn't have used that term. My bad.

If I go to an Austrian restaurant in Australia, I never leave a tip.

The employees live in Australia, and are covered by Australian industrial relations legislation, and Australia doesn't have a culture practice of tipping.

It would be ridiculous to tip the workers in an Austrian restaurant in Australia.

However, when I go to restaurants in Austria, I always leave a tip, as they live and work in a country where tipping is a normal practice.

When you go to an Irish pub in Parramatta, do you pay with Euros and call your wife "Mo mhuirnín dílis"?

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Reply #14 - Nov 19^th, 2019 at 2:01pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 19^th, 2019 at 1:48pm:

In your case Red, I wouldn't pay that global tip but slip a few USD to any crew members who go above and beyond to make your trip on the floating RSL as nice as possible Wink

Thanks Gordon

As I have tried to explain it is

A floating .......

Opera House
Her Majesty's Theatre
Casino
Swimming Pool
Many Restaurants
Many Bars (Hic !!)
Gym
Beauty Parlor
Child Care
Snack bar
Pick Up Joint
Day tour provider
etc etc
Wink

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