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Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Nov 17th, 2019 at 6:49am
 
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/how-botched-penis-enlargement-go...

AN ASYLUM seeker who botched his DIY penis enlargement by injecting himself with palm oil has been transferred to Australia under Labor’s controversial medevac laws so he can have a genital reconstruction.

In a sensational example of how broadly Labor’s Medevac laws are being applied by doctors, it can be revealed the Iranian man will get the specialised, expensive surgery at a private hospital in southeast Queensland, with Australian taxpayers picking up the tab.

A female doctor in Australia ordered the Iranian national, who was in Port Moresby, receive the surgery after he experienced swelling, discomfort and limited function.

The proponents of the Medevac laws, pushed through the past Parliament by Labor and a number of independent crossbenchers, including Kerryn Phelps, who lost her seat of Wentworth in the May election, argued the legislation was needed for “seriously ill people”. Labor home affairs spokeswoman Kristina Keneally said the Medevac laws are working and do not need to change. However, the Morrison Government is determined to repeal the laws and will urge the Senate to do so in the last two sitting weeks of the year.

The man, in his mid-30s, racked up almost 50 incidents while in PNG, and was arrested for throwing boiling water on a security guard.

In another outburst he was charged for punching a security officer who confiscated the pornography he was watching. The magistrate dismissed the charges.

It is understood Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton approved the transfer last month because of the limited grounds he has under Medevac to stop accused criminals from coming to Australia when surgery cannot be done abroad.

The man has been in southeast Queensland for three weeks, where he is in detention and receiving treatment before the surgery is scheduled. A reconstruction could cost more than $10,000. He arrived by boat in 2013 and was transferred from Christmas Island to PNG. The Sunday Mail understands the man is engaged in the US resettlement process but has failed to attend numerous appointments.

Taxpayers are now facing an indefinite cost for the man given there is no explicit return mechanism for those who have been transferred under Medevac laws.

[highlight]He is one of hundreds of men on PNG who have injected substances into their penises to make them bigger.


A spokeswoman for Mr Dutton would not comment.[/highlight]






Phelps must be delighted...
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So what is the problem?

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Reply #2 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:05am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 6:58am:
So what is the problem?

Spot



well you are happy someone of this character can abuse a system made possible by LABOR......where he is now ensconced in this country  and could come and live next door to you   sounds like a man any laborite would love to live near. Sad
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Reply #3 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:16am
 
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:05am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 6:58am:
So what is the problem?

Spot



well you are happy someone of this character can abuse a system made possible by LABOR......where he is now ensconced in this country  and could come and live next door to you   sounds like a man any laborite would love to live near. Sad




You must be tolerant [of everything and of everyone whom LEFTISTS are tolerant of] cods,     and not discriminatory.

Its the law, in Australia, in 2019.

In 2019, Australians are not allowed to 'discriminate' [i.e. to choose, if our choice offends LEFTISTS].



'Australia', does not exist anymore cods.



Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1475535134/0#0
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The character of the people of a nation,       define the popular [perceived] character of that nation.


Isn't that correct ?


IMO, Australia does not exist anymore.

Yes, something which is referred to as 'Australia' exists.

But it is not Australia anymore.






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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1561806794/7#7
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I would venture to suggest, that    every nation    aspires to achieve a political 'environment', which will [within its own borders] facilitate political stability, peace, and prosperity for its citizens.

Few come close.

aspire = = direct one’s hopes or ambitions towards achieving something.



Any nation which has achieved a modicum of political stability, peace, and prosperity,
which then, chooses [in a dangerous world, full of LAWLESS individuals] to [in effect] open its borders, will soon;
1/ lose its current national identity,
and,
2/ lose the political stability and the peace which facilitates its national prosperity.


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Nations like Australia, and the U.S.A. are, imo, morphing into    sh it hole     nations.



PROPOSITION;
It is the character of the people of any nation, which defines the character [and quality, and the reputation] of that nation.

Logically,    sh it hole     nations, are so,       because of the particular character and cultural mores, of the people who inhabit those    sh it hole     nations.

And the same principle applies, with the particular character and cultural mores, of the people who inhabit nations where there is political stability, peace, and prosperity.


Again,    ....it is the character of the people of a nation, which defines the character [and quality, and the reputation] of a nation.


Recognising and valuing [i.e. appreciating] that difference [between different things and different people], is called 'discrimination'.


Dictionary;
discrimination = =
1 the action of discriminating against people.
2 recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.       good judgement or taste.



Dictionary;
discriminating = = having or showing good taste or judgement.





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Yadda said somewhere.....
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"We are all the same. And there is no difference between us.", is the mantra that the humanists keep repeating.

But don't believe it!

Because it is our personal value systems [that have formed within us, from childhood until adulthood], which define who we are, as individuals.

And it is the - individual - which helps to define [the nature and the character of] his immediate 'environment' [i.e. the nature and the character of his community], and it is the collection of [those] communities [within a nation] that define the nature and character of a nation.







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Reply #4 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:49am
 
only because of MEDEVAC   another labor policy..

lefties tend to forget that little detail.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

this is how theselefty Policies get manipulated...penis operations... all sizes considered  I am sure.. at no extra cost... Grin Grin Grin

see what spot has now disappeared....oh well!
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Reply #5 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:51am
 
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:05am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 6:58am:
So what is the problem?

Spot



well you are happy someone of this character can abuse a system made possible by LABOR......where he is now ensconced in this country  and could come and live next door to you   sounds like a man any laborite would love to live near. Sad


You think he shouldn't get medical attention?

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Reply #6 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:52am
 
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:49am:
only because of MEDEVAC   another labor policy..

lefties tend to forget that little detail.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

this is how theselefty Policies get manipulated...penis operations... all sizes considered  I am sure.. at no extra cost... Grin Grin Grin

see what spot has now disappeared....oh well!


I have?

He stuffed it up and needed it fixed. They aren't enlarging it

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Reply #7 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:55am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:51am:
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:05am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 6:58am:
So what is the problem?

Spot



well you are happy someone of this character can abuse a system made possible by LABOR......where he is now ensconced in this country  and could come and live next door to you   sounds like a man any laborite would love to live near. Sad


You think he shouldn't get medical attention?

Spot



WHO SAID THAT???


does he deserve full medical treatment at our expense on our soil spot????? ....

can we expect an influx of penis enlargements  by males of dubious character.... all thanks to labor and phelps... Angry Angry Angry Angry


read...


Quote:
It is understood Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton approved the transfer last month because of the limited grounds he has under Medevac to stop accused criminals from coming to Australia when surgery cannot be done abroa


did you notice the word

CRIMINAL>> spot!
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Reply #8 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:56am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:52am:
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:49am:
only because of MEDEVAC   another labor policy..

lefties tend to forget that little detail.... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

this is how theselefty Policies get manipulated...penis operations... all sizes considered  I am sure.. at no extra cost... Grin Grin Grin

see what spot has now disappeared....oh well!


I have?

He stuffed it up and needed it fixed. They aren't enlarging it

Spot




sheeeeeeeeez almighty.....ok spot run along i thought I was talking to an adult.. Angry Angry
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Reply #9 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:56am
 
What a stupid, stupid, idiotic idea.

Medivac? A free ride for the most disgusting creatures on earth.

If this moron was stupid enough to inject something into his dick, he should be simply allowed to sit and watch it rot off.

But then, I guess the terminally twisted in Australia (LGBTIQSELFISH) will back this freak to the hilt because it's just the type of perverted , stupid practices they get up to on a daily basis.

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The story is false and the product of a sick mind in Canberra that needs to evacuated from Australia and live in a mental asylum on some deserted tropical isle infested with rats and disease....that's the level it has stooped to by the RW.

The guy had a injured his wrist in a soccer match and needed surgery....of the 240+ asylum seekers that have been 'medivac' ...only two remain in hospital.
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Where are the rest?
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Reply #12 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am
 
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:55am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:51am:
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 7:05am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 6:58am:
So what is the problem?

Spot



well you are happy someone of this character can abuse a system made possible by LABOR......where he is now ensconced in this country  and could come and live next door to you   sounds like a man any laborite would love to live near. Sad


You think he shouldn't get medical attention?

Spot



WHO SAID THAT???


does he deserve full medical treatment at our expense on our soil spot????? ....

can we expect an influx of penis enlargements  by males of dubious character.... all thanks to labor and phelps... Angry Angry Angry Angry


read...


Quote:
It is understood Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton approved the transfer last month because of the limited grounds he has under Medevac to stop accused criminals from coming to Australia when surgery cannot be done abroa


did you notice the word

CRIMINAL>> spot!


The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

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Reply #13 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:12am
 
Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 8:44am:
The story is false and the product of a sick mind in Canberra that needs to evacuated from Australia and live in a mental asylum on some deserted tropical isle infested with rats and disease....that's the level it has stooped to by the RW.

The guy had a injured his wrist in a soccer match and needed surgery....of the 240+ asylum seekers that have been 'medivac' ...only two remain in hospital.


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They are  returned to Manus or Nauru......how desperate of Dutton to conspire a ill minded story.

Indeed the whole government is getting desperate... Roll Eyes
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Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am:
The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot


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freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am:
The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot


How do you know it is fake?


Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

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"Because Pedro said"

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Are you telling lies about fake news Spot? Because you don't want to accept reality?
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Reply #18 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 2:40pm
 
Seems this story has some cred. The incident occurred in PNG.
Check this out.

Botched penis enlargements: Papua New Guinea doctors warn of nationwide problem


Doctors in Papua New Guinea have warned of a “nationwide problem” of men injecting foreign substances, including coconut oil and silicone, into their penises in an attempt to make them bigger.

A doctor at the Port Moresby General Hospital said that over the last two years his clinic has treated at least 500 men with penile disfigurement and dysfunction as a result of injections.

“I have seen five new cases every week for the past two years and these are the ones that have come forward for treatment. We don’t know how many of them are out there,” said Akule Danlop, a surgeon at the hospital. “I saw seven today.”
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The substances injected include coconut oil, baby oil, silicone and cooking oil and the side effects are serious, sometimes irreversible.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/12/botched-penis-enlargements-papua-n...
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Reply #19 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 2:57pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:11am:
freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am:
The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot


How do you know it is fake?


Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot



so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

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we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot   you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...


I am dying to know,

   and its not a subject  I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest.. Smiley Smiley Smiley
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Reply #20 - Nov 17th, 2019 at 3:43pm
 
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 2:57pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:11am:
freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am:
The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot


How do you know it is fake?


Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot



so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

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we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot   you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...


I am dying to know,

   and its not a subject  I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest.. Smiley Smiley Smiley


You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything.  Go back and read what I actually said.

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Reply #21 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 7:18am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 2:57pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:11am:
freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am:
The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot


How do you know it is fake?


Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot



so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

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we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot   you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...


I am dying to know,

   and its not a subject  I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest.. Smiley Smiley Smiley


You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything.  Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot


You shouldn't speak about twisting things. Roll Eyes
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Reply #22 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 8:24am
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 2:57pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:11am:
freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am:
The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot


How do you know it is fake?


Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot



so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot   you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...


I am dying to know,

   and its not a subject  I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest.. Smiley Smiley Smiley


You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything.  Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot



why dont you answer my question spot??

if he isnt trying to enlarge  what is he trying to do???>..


its not that hard...... what have I twisted???????


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

its you thats cracking up about us paying for an enlargement     we are paying to fix the damage he may have done....which could go on indefinitely ...

and then he gets to stay   we cant send him back...
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Reply #23 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 8:46am
 
cods wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 8:24am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 2:57pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:11am:
freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am:
The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot


How do you know it is fake?


Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot



so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

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we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot   you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...


I am dying to know,

   and its not a subject  I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest.. Smiley Smiley Smiley


You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything.  Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot



why dont you answer my question spot??

if he isnt trying to enlarge  what is he trying to do???>..


its not that hard...... what have I twisted???????


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

its you thats cracking up about us paying for an enlargement     we are paying to fix the damage he may have done....which could go on indefinitely ...

and then he gets to stay   we cant send him back...


Which is what I said you silly billy

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Reply #24 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 9:53am
 
For those of you who dont know, you need to read up on the text of the medevac law. 

It contains two components. First, a panel of medical professionals - including the chief medical officer, and representatives of medical councils, have to approve on medical grounds that the transfer is necessary.   Second, minister Dutton, have to approve the transfer on security grounds - because, well, the medical professions have no idea about security issues around individuals.

And when these two components are met, the detainee then allowed into Australia for treatment, but must be under guard / effective detention at all times.  And when, the medical issue is dealt with, he or she is to return to offshore facility. 

As you can see, if there is no issue about 'letting in' criminals, or circum-navigate the immigration system.  If there is going to be a security issue, then its minister Dutton asleep on the job. 

So get your facts straight. 

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Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Reply #25 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 10:32am
 
Typical prejudice scaremongering from Murdoch.

It doesn't matter what stupid thing people do to themselves - if people are in need of medical care, you give it to them. End of story. Hippocratic oath and all that. You can't have the medivac law in place and then get to pick and choose which medical emergencies you decide to act on and which ones you don't - based purely on a "he doesn't deserve it" mentality.

Also, as Joel Fitzgibbon pointed out this morning, the government was already bringing in ASs who self-harmed who needed medical treatment into Australian hospitals pre medevac.
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Reply #26 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 3:37pm
 
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 8:46am:
cods wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 8:24am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
cods wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 2:57pm:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 10:11am:
freediver wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:21am:
Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17th, 2019 at 9:11am:
The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot


How do you know it is fake?


Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot



so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided

we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot   you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...


I am dying to know,

   and its not a subject  I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest.. Smiley Smiley Smiley


You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything.  Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot



why dont you answer my question spot??

if he isnt trying to enlarge  what is he trying to do???>..


its not that hard...... what have I twisted???????


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its you thats cracking up about us paying for an enlargement     we are paying to fix the damage he may have done....which could go on indefinitely ...

and then he gets to stay   we cant send him back...


Which is what I said you silly billy

Spot


What you said is that it is fake news - apparently because someone on this forum implied as much. When you say fake news, does that mean a truth you do not want to hear?
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Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Reply #27 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 4:42pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 10:32am:
Typical prejudice scaremongering from Murdoch.

It doesn't matter what stupid thing people do to themselves - if people are in need of medical care, you give it to them. End of story. Hippocratic oath and all that. You can't have the medivac law in place and then get to pick and choose which medical emergencies you decide to act on and which ones you don't - based purely on a "he doesn't deserve it" mentality.

Also, as Joel Fitzgibbon pointed out this morning, the government was already bringing in ASs who self-harmed who needed medical treatment into Australian hospitals pre medevac.




thats right mate  Roll Eyes

  hammer hitting NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD..

we dont get a CHOICE......

ivan milat cut off his finger    but we sent him back to jail...

guess what? WE HAD THAT RIGHT...

these people are on Manus or wherever for a reason.....but now thanks to LABOR they can now choose how to get off and never be returned...

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do you think in a FAIR world prisoners in jail should have the same right of passage??????.. do you think everyone should be given that right or just asylum seekers who do not make the grade at the first hurdle? 

Angry Angry Angry Angry

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Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Reply #28 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 4:45pm
 
tickleandrose wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 9:53am:
For those of you who dont know, you need to read up on the text of the medevac law. 

It contains two components. First, a panel of medical professionals - including the chief medical officer, and representatives of medical councils, have to approve on medical grounds that the transfer is necessary.   Second, minister Dutton, have to approve the transfer on security grounds - because, well, the medical professions have no idea about security issues around individuals.

And when these two components are met, the detainee then allowed into Australia for treatment, but must be under guard / effective detention at all times.  And when, the medical issue is dealt with, he or she is to return to offshore facility. 

As you can see, if there is no issue about 'letting in' criminals, or circum-navigate the immigration system.  If there is going to be a security issue, then its minister Dutton asleep on the job. 

So get your facts straight. 




if that were the case..


there would be no case or issue..

the legals will be lining up to prevent them returning    once they are on the mainland....of course they are under guard  but that isnt the point......why do you think Morrison reopened Christmas Island?????????????????????????????... why do we stop the boats getting to shore??????????????????????


because once they hit the mainland everything changes
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Reply #29 - Nov 18th, 2019 at 6:06pm
 
Let me guess... Sri Lankan?
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Reply #30 - Nov 19th, 2019 at 8:07am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 18th, 2019 at 6:06pm:
Let me guess... Sri Lankan?


No ... you didn't read the article ey?

Iranian.
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