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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47364 At my desk.	Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC Reply #15 - Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:21am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:11am: The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up. Spot How do you know it is fake?
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Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Reply #16 - Nov 17^th, 2019 at 10:11am

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot

How do you know it is fake?

Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 47364 At my desk.	Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC Reply #17 - Nov 17^th, 2019 at 10:22am "Because Pedro said" Are you telling lies about fake news Spot? Because you don't want to accept reality?
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Reply #18 - Nov 17^th, 2019 at 2:40pm

Seems this story has some cred. The incident occurred in PNG.
Check this out.

Botched penis enlargements: Papua New Guinea doctors warn of nationwide problem

Doctors in Papua New Guinea have warned of a “nationwide problem” of men injecting foreign substances, including coconut oil and silicone, into their penises in an attempt to make them bigger.

A doctor at the Port Moresby General Hospital said that over the last two years his clinic has treated at least 500 men with penile disfigurement and dysfunction as a result of injections.

“I have seen five new cases every week for the past two years and these are the ones that have come forward for treatment. We don’t know how many of them are out there,” said Akule Danlop, a surgeon at the hospital. “I saw seven today.”
UK signs post-Brexit trade deal with Fiji and Papua New Guinea
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The substances injected include coconut oil, baby oil, silicone and cooking oil and the side effects are serious, sometimes irreversible.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/12/botched-penis-enlargements-papua-n...

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Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Reply #19 - Nov 17^th, 2019 at 2:57pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot

How do you know it is fake?

Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot

so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

Undecided

we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...

I am dying to know,

and its not a subject I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest..

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Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Reply #20 - Nov 17^th, 2019 at 3:43pm

cods wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot

How do you know it is fake?

Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot

so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

Undecided

we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...

I am dying to know,

and its not a subject I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest..

You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything. Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot

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Reply #21 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 7:18am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

cods wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot

How do you know it is fake?

Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot

so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

Undecided

we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...

I am dying to know,

and its not a subject I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest..

You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything. Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot

You shouldn't speak about twisting things. Roll Eyes

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Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Reply #22 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 8:24am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

cods wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot

How do you know it is fake?

Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot

so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

Undecided

we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...

I am dying to know,

and its not a subject I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest..

You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything. Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot

why dont you answer my question spot??

if he isnt trying to enlarge what is he trying to do???>..

its not that hard...... what have I twisted???????

Cheesy

its you thats cracking up about us paying for an enlargement we are paying to fix the damage he may have done....which could go on indefinitely ...

and then he gets to stay we cant send him back...

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Reply #23 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 8:46am

cods wrote on Nov 18^th, 2019 at 8:24am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

cods wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot

How do you know it is fake?

Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot

so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

Undecided

we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...

I am dying to know,

and its not a subject I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest..

You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything. Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot

why dont you answer my question spot??

if he isnt trying to enlarge what is he trying to do???>..

its not that hard...... what have I twisted???????

Cheesy

its you thats cracking up about us paying for an enlargement we are paying to fix the damage he may have done....which could go on indefinitely ...

and then he gets to stay we cant send him back...

Which is what I said you silly billy

Spot

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Reply #24 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 9:53am

For those of you who dont know, you need to read up on the text of the medevac law.

It contains two components. First, a panel of medical professionals - including the chief medical officer, and representatives of medical councils, have to approve on medical grounds that the transfer is necessary. Second, minister Dutton, have to approve the transfer on security grounds - because, well, the medical professions have no idea about security issues around individuals.

And when these two components are met, the detainee then allowed into Australia for treatment, but must be under guard / effective detention at all times. And when, the medical issue is dealt with, he or she is to return to offshore facility.

As you can see, if there is no issue about 'letting in' criminals, or circum-navigate the immigration system. If there is going to be a security issue, then its minister Dutton asleep on the job.

So get your facts straight.

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Reply #25 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 10:32am

Typical prejudice scaremongering from Murdoch.

It doesn't matter what stupid thing people do to themselves - if people are in need of medical care, you give it to them. End of story. Hippocratic oath and all that. You can't have the medivac law in place and then get to pick and choose which medical emergencies you decide to act on and which ones you don't - based purely on a "he doesn't deserve it" mentality.

Also, as Joel Fitzgibbon pointed out this morning, the government was already bringing in ASs who self-harmed who needed medical treatment into Australian hospitals pre medevac.

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Reply #26 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 3:37pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 18^th, 2019 at 8:46am:

cods wrote on Nov 18^th, 2019 at 8:24am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

cods wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

freediver wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:21am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 17^th, 2019 at 9:11am:

The article (fake as it turns out) said he tried a pens enlargement himself that stuffed up.

Spot

How do you know it is fake?

Because pedro said and its not believable anyway. Doesnt matter though - its not like australia is giving the guy a penis enlargement. You ppl need to learn how to read.

Spot

so you dont believe a story with a link

but you do believe a story without one...

Undecided

we dont get a lot of fake news here... at least not that I know of..

is pedro a member of the media do you know??????....

perhaps while your their spot you can give us all another reason for any male to inject a foreign substance into his penis..that is not to enlarge his member??????.......

what other reason could he possibly have?????...

I am dying to know,

and its not a subject I have a lot of interest in.....

but seeing as how you have brought it up once or twice.....you have got my interest..

You are impossible to have a discussion with because you twist everything. Go back and read what I actually said.

Spot

why dont you answer my question spot??

if he isnt trying to enlarge what is he trying to do???>..

its not that hard...... what have I twisted???????

Cheesy

its you thats cracking up about us paying for an enlargement we are paying to fix the damage he may have done....which could go on indefinitely ...

and then he gets to stay we cant send him back...

Which is what I said you silly billy

Spot

What you said is that it is fake news - apparently because someone on this forum implied as much. When you say fake news, does that mean a truth you do not want to hear?

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Reply #27 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 4:42pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Nov 18^th, 2019 at 10:32am:

Typical prejudice scaremongering from Murdoch.

It doesn't matter what stupid thing people do to themselves - if people are in need of medical care, you give it to them. End of story. Hippocratic oath and all that. You can't have the medivac law in place and then get to pick and choose which medical emergencies you decide to act on and which ones you don't - based purely on a "he doesn't deserve it" mentality.

Also, as Joel Fitzgibbon pointed out this morning, the government was already bringing in ASs who self-harmed who needed medical treatment into Australian hospitals pre medevac.

thats right mate Roll Eyes

hammer hitting NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD..

we dont get a CHOICE......

ivan milat cut off his finger but we sent him back to jail...

guess what? WE HAD THAT RIGHT...

these people are on Manus or wherever for a reason.....but now thanks to LABOR they can now choose how to get off and never be returned...

Angry

do you think in a FAIR world prisoners in jail should have the same right of passage??????.. do you think everyone should be given that right or just asylum seekers who do not make the grade at the first hurdle?

Angry

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Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC
Reply #28 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 4:45pm

tickleandrose wrote on Nov 18^th, 2019 at 9:53am:

For those of you who dont know, you need to read up on the text of the medevac law.

It contains two components. First, a panel of medical professionals - including the chief medical officer, and representatives of medical councils, have to approve on medical grounds that the transfer is necessary. Second, minister Dutton, have to approve the transfer on security grounds - because, well, the medical professions have no idea about security issues around individuals.

And when these two components are met, the detainee then allowed into Australia for treatment, but must be under guard / effective detention at all times. And when, the medical issue is dealt with, he or she is to return to offshore facility.

As you can see, if there is no issue about 'letting in' criminals, or circum-navigate the immigration system. If there is going to be a security issue, then its minister Dutton asleep on the job.

So get your facts straight.

if that were the case..

there would be no case or issue..

the legals will be lining up to prevent them returning once they are on the mainland....of course they are under guard but that isnt the point......why do you think Morrison reopened Christmas Island?????????????????????????????... why do we stop the boats getting to shore??????????????????????

because once they hit the mainland everything changes

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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 21726 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: Is this abuse of MEDIVAC Reply #29 - Nov 18^th, 2019 at 6:06pm Let me guess... Sri Lankan?
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