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First Hillary's emails, now this!
Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:15am
 
When Trump Phones Friends, the Chinese and the Russians Listen and Learn


Tom Brenner/The New York Times
By Matthew Rosenberg and Maggie Haberman
Oct. 24, 2018

WASHINGTON — When President Trump calls old friends on one of his iPhones to gossip, gripe or solicit their latest take on how he is doing, American intelligence reports indicate that Chinese spies are often listening — and putting to use invaluable insights into how to best work the president and affect administration policy, current and former American officials said.

Mr. Trump’s aides have repeatedly warned him that his cellphone calls are not secure, and they have told him that Russian spies are routinely eavesdropping on the calls, as well. But aides say the voluble president, who has been pressured into using his secure White House landline more often these days, has still refused to give up his iPhones. White House officials say they can only hope he refrains from discussing classified information when he is on them.

Mr. Trump’s use of his iPhones was detailed by several current and former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so they could discuss classified intelligence and sensitive security arrangements. The officials said they were doing so not to undermine Mr. Trump, but out of frustration with what they considered the president’s casual approach to electronic security.

American spy agencies, the officials said, had learned that China and Russia were eavesdropping on the president’s cellphone calls from human sources inside foreign governments and intercepting communications between foreign officials.

On Thursday morning, Mr. Trump said this article was “soooo wrong!” and asserted that he used only government phones and “only one seldom used government cell phone.” He did not claim there were other factual errors in The New York Times’ reporting.

The current and former officials said they have also determined that China is seeking to use what it is learning from the calls — how Mr. Trump thinks, what arguments tend to sway him and to whom he is inclined to listen — to keep a trade war with the United States from escalating further. In what amounts to a marriage of lobbying and espionage, the Chinese have pieced together a list of the people with whom Mr. Trump regularly speaks in hopes of using them to influence the president, the officials said.

Russia is not believed to be running as sophisticated an influence effort as China because of Mr. Trump’s apparent affinity for President Vladimir V. Putin, a former official said.

Officials said the president has two official iPhones that have been altered by the National Security Agency to limit their abilities — and vulnerabilities — and a third personal phone that is no different from hundreds of millions of iPhones in use around the world. Mr. Trump keeps the personal phone, White House officials said, because unlike his other two phones, he can store his contacts in it.

The issue of secure communications is fraught for Mr. Trump. As a presidential candidate, he regularly attacked his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, during the 2016 campaign for her use of an unsecured email server while she was secretary of state, and he basked in chants of “lock her up” at his rallies.

Intercepting calls is a relatively easy skill for governments. American intelligence agencies consider it an essential tool of spycraft, and they routinely try to tap the phones of important foreign leaders. In a diplomatic blowup during the Obama administration, documents leaked by Edward J. Snowden, a former contractor for the National Security Agency, showed that the American government had tapped the phone of Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany.

Foreign governments are well aware of the risk, and so leaders like Mr. Xi and Mr. Putin avoid using cellphones when possible.

President Barack Obama was careful with cellphones, too. He used an iPhone in his second term, but it could not make calls and could receive email only from a special address that was given to a select group of staff members and intimates. It had no camera or microphone, and it could not be used to download apps at will. Texting was forbidden because there was no way to collect and store the messages, as required by the Presidential Records Act.

Mr. Trump typically relies on his cellphones when he does not want a call going through the White House switchboard and logged for senior aides to see, his aides said. Many of those Mr. Trump speaks with most often on one of his cellphones, such as hosts at Fox News, share the president’s political views, or simply enable his sense of grievance about any number of subjects.

Last year, Mr. Trump’s cellphone was left behind in a golf cart at his club in Bedminster, N.J., causing a scramble to locate it, according to two people familiar with what took place.

Mr. Trump is supposed to swap out his two official phones every 30 days for new ones but rarely does, bristling at the inconvenience. White House staff members are supposed to swap out his two official phones every 30 days for new ones but rarely does, bristling at the inconvenience.

New phone or old, though, the Chinese and the Russians are listening, and learning.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/24/us/politics/trump-phone-security.html
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Reply #1 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:37am
 
Wow, this is much worse than Hillary's emails...

What Oath of office...?
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Reply #2 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:41am
 
New York Times " Source " more fake news

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Reply #3 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:44am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:37am:
Wow, this is much worse than Hillary's emails...

What Oath of office...?


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Reply #4 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:50am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:37am:
Wow, this is much worse than Hillary's emails...

What Oath of office...?


The FBI confirmed that Hillary's State Department emails weren't hacked.

Mr Trump's presidential phone calls are. But despite his intelligence telling him this, Mr Trump refuses to change.

Still, we now know how he communicates with Putin, eh?
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Reply #5 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:54am
 
I thought lefties didnt like secrets????...

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I dont think they know what they want to be honest!
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cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:54am:
I thought lefties didnt like secrets????...

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I dont think they know what they want to be honest!


The Trumptards are the ones always changing the goal posts...
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Reply #7 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:57am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:44am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:37am:
Wow, this is much worse than Hillary's emails...

What Oath of office...?


http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/ym59654e65.gif


Fair's fair, Greggery. Sad's right. Maybe Mr Trump just forgot his oath of office.

An easy mishtake to make.

At least we know why Mr Trump uses his personal phone: he doesn't want the CIA listening in. Who cares about the Chinese?

These people are Deep State.
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Reply #8 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 11:05am
 
cods wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:54am:
I thought lefties didnt like secrets????...

Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

I dont think they know what they want to be honest!


The leftards never do, dear. Fancy writing an article about the Chows listening in on Mr Trump's phone calls, so unfair.

Dear one's probably right. This has to be fake news.

Can you imagine Mr Trump using his own phone after Hillary's emails? Mr Trump couldn't possibly be that dumb.
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Reply #9 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 11:21am
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:50am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:37am:
Wow, this is much worse than Hillary's emails...

What Oath of office...?


The FBI confirmed that Hillary's State Department emails weren't hacked.

Mr Trump's presidential phone calls are. But despite his intelligence telling him this, Mr Trump refuses to change.

Still, we now know how he communicates with Putin, eh?


...


Ole Vlad has finally spit the dummy!!!
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW.....that old NYT piece was outed as   ...  by the HuffPo
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Reply #10 - Nov 14th, 2019 at 11:50am
 
Panther wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 11:21am:
Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:50am:
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:37am:
Wow, this is much worse than Hillary's emails...

What Oath of office...?


The FBI confirmed that Hillary's State Department emails weren't hacked.

Mr Trump's presidential phone calls are. But despite his intelligence telling him this, Mr Trump refuses to change.

Still, we now know how he communicates with Putin, eh?


https://i.imgur.com/8sx9esy.jpg


Ole Vlad has finally spit the dummy!!!
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

BTW.....that old NYT piece was outed as   https://i.imgur.com/zmCBt5i.jpg  by the HuffPo
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Good to know, Panther. Would you like to post a link?

We'll put this story to rest once and for all.
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Reply #11 - Nov 15th, 2019 at 6:40am
 
SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 14th, 2019 at 10:37am:
Wow, this is much worse than Hillary's emails...

What Oath of office...?



Hillary's emails made spying potentially possible and yet, it did not happen. No one even pretends that Russian Chinese and Israeli spies are not listening in on trump.

He is a living breathing national security breach and under previous presidents, he would be taken out in a drone strike... Sigh... where's a good hellfire missile when you need one.
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