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Reply #90 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 7:11pm

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:

Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.

Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West. After that date it declined. This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc. The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct. It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything. Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc. Most of society rejects this.

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Reply #91 - Jan 25^th, 2020 at 9:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:

Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.

Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West. After that date it declined. This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc. The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct. It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything. Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc. Most of society rejects this.

The West didn't 'take advantage' of these thing.
The West knew what to do with them.

Meanwhile, the Chinese are eating bats and baby mice and so starting pandemics - sorry, ''taking advantage of bats and baby mice' and startiing pandemics.

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Reply #92 - Jan 26^th, 2020 at 12:49pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:

Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.

Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West. After that date it declined. This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc. The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct. It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything. Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc. Most of society rejects this.

I'll ask again, from when until the 15th century? It's obviously outdated Brian, new evidence shows China was not isolated as once thought. The war horse, the wheel, bronze and iron smelting were all brought from the west.

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Mummy Discoveries
Some of the first mummies were found near an Uyghur village. They date to between 2000 and 4000 years before the present. The clothing has been well-preserved, and a notable find is that one of the female mummies wears a conical hat which may have been a sign of considerable status. What is most remarkable about these mummies, however, is that they look physically Caucasian. They have elongated bodies, sunken eyes, long noses, and their lightly colored hair is still preserved. These individuals, as a result, stand out from much of the modern population of China.

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Wheeled carts have also been found in association with the mummies. Most scholars today believe that the wheel was introduced to China from farther west rather than being independently developed there. The clothing worn by the mummies is also made with techniques that may have a common origin with the methods involved in the making of European textiles which originated during the Neolithic period.

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Archaeological and linguistic evidence indicate that, before the rise of the Han Chinese Empire, what is now the Xinjang province was originally settled by Indo-European speaking populations that migrated there from central Asia, including the Tocharians. The Tocharians first entered the region around 2000 BC.

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It is increasingly common among scholars to question the position that the Chinese civilization was entirely self-contained. Evidence that the wheel was introduced from the west and the presence of these mummies both suggest that China may have learned more from the outside than is often assumed.

https://www.ancient-origins.net/history/where-west-actually-meets-east-tarim-mum...

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Reply #93 - Jan 26^th, 2020 at 4:46pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 12:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:

Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.

Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West. After that date it declined. This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc. The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct. It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything. Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc. Most of society rejects this.

I'll ask again, from when until the 15th century? It's obviously outdated Brian, new evidence shows China was not isolated as once thought. The war horse, the wheel, bronze and iron smelting were all brought from the west.

Problem for you is that Chinese were the first to invent so many things, Set. No, China wasn't isolated but they were inventive and it shows, from irrigation through to nautical engineering they were the world's leaders for a long, long, time. There is no start date but there is an end date.

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Reply #95 - Jan 26^th, 2020 at 7:03pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 4:46pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 12:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 25^th, 2020 at 7:11pm:

Setanta wrote on Dec 23^rd, 2019 at 11:54pm:

Brian, you need to finish this thread off with me, I have other things I'd like to discuss with you. Perhaps even in another thread as it's about DNA but this one needs to come to a conclusion first. Get the ground work over, if you will.

Remind me, Set, what is to finish in this thread?

China was, until approximately 15th century CE technologically superior to the West. After that date it declined. This is based upon Needham and others contentions.

It developed a great deal that the West took advantage of - metal working, gun powder, artillery, movable type printing, etc. The West did this through trade, which in it's later imperial period included the use of Opium.

"Race" is a social construct. It is based upon superficial external differences which indicate nothing about a person's intelligence, behaviour or anything. Racists use it to justify their discrimination against individuals on the basis of their skin colour/eye shape/etc. Most of society rejects this.

I'll ask again, from when until the 15th century? It's obviously outdated Brian, new evidence shows China was not isolated as once thought. The war horse, the wheel, bronze and iron smelting were all brought from the west.

Problem for you is that Chinese were the first to invent so many things, Set. No, China wasn't isolated but they were inventive and it shows, from irrigation through to nautical engineering they were the world's leaders for a long, long, time. There is no start date but there is an end date.

No-one said they weren't inventive but without what the west brought them, where would they be? How can there be no start date?

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Archaeological investigation has found evidence of irrigation in areas lacking sufficient natural rainfall to support crops for rainfed agriculture. The earliest known use of the technology dates to the 6th millennium BCE in Khuzistan in the south-west of present-day Iran.[4][5]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrigation

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Reply #97 - Feb 2^nd, 2020 at 8:06pm

Neanderthal Ancestry Detected in Africans For the First Time

Interesting and the African supremacists are in for a shock and can no longer call Europeans "Neanderthals" as a derogatory name. I was reading about the back flow of people with R1a into Africa from Indo-Europeans just the other day and wondered why no Neanderthal DNA went with them. It seems it did.

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Reply #98 - Feb 2^nd, 2020 at 8:32pm

Setanta wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 10:05pm:

What were the Chinese doing in the 5th millennium BC, Brian?

https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/varna-man-and-wealthiest-g...

They were apparently discovering and confirming how to:

Write
Plant and harvest rice.
Building ships
Building villages
store and redistribute crops,
and the potential to support specialist craftsmen and administrators.

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Reply #99 - Feb 2^nd, 2020 at 8:41pm

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2020 at 8:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Jan 26^th, 2020 at 10:05pm:

What were the Chinese doing in the 5th millennium BC, Brian?

https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-europe/varna-man-and-wealthiest-g...

They were apparently discovering and confirming how to:

Write
Plant and harvest rice.
Building ships
Building villages
store and redistribute crops,
and the potential to support specialist craftsmen and administrators.

You mean like the west except for the rice? How was China's metalwork back then? This is why I keep asking you when this Chinese superiority you claim started. You keep falling back on one Sinophilic writer when there has been much more info about east-west contact being uncovered.

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Reply #100 - Jul 13^th, 2020 at 12:16pm

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Omohtee: 'Fat wey don turn to doti dey comot from my bumbum surgery wey I do' - Victim of 'failed bum surgery'
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Producer: Ogechi Obidiebube

My whole bodi cold wen 'Omohtee' raise her blouse to show me all di deep scars wey dey all over her lower waist.

Scars wey she no feel comfortable to show wen di interview proper start.

Omotola Taiwo, wey pipo sabi as 'Omohtee' share details of how di cosmetic surgery wey she do don affect her mentally, physically and financially sotay she bin dey reason to kill hersef.

Di 28-year-old wey dey run Toj Fabrics, open up about di different fluids wey dey comot from her bodi and di pains wey she still dey feel six months afta her surgery.

Omohtee wey bin do 'top up' liposuction and Brazilian Butt Lift surgery as far back as January, 2020 for Lagos, Nigeria don come out now to accuse her surgeon, Dr Anu Adepoju say she do failed surgery for her wey don cause her serious health complications.

Dr Anu wey dey sue Omohtee for N25 million ontop defamation charges, also share her own side of di tori.

She insist say she be qualified Doctor and Cosmetic Surgeon wey don train wit different ogbonge medical institutions and claim say she get over 1,000 successful surgeries to her name.

Dr Anu say dis whole matter don make her lose over N100 million ($25,7731) from her clinic, Med Contour wey goment authorities don lock up.

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Frank Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 40485 Gender:	Re: Race and dating - there are racial differences Reply #101 - Sep 28^th, 2021 at 10:46am Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed. https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/ Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.
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Reply #102 - Sep 28^th, 2021 at 10:59am

Frank wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

b(l)ack aesthetics? Isn't that how Jews once ported their wealth?

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Reply #103 - Sep 28^th, 2021 at 11:01am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

b(l)ack aesthetics? Isn't that how Jews once ported their wealth?

Note the word 're-primitivisation'.

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Reply #104 - Sep 28^th, 2021 at 11:08am

Frank wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 11:01am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 10:59am:

Frank wrote on Sep 28^th, 2021 at 10:46am:

Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/09/beauty-gold-teeth/619972/

Soon our own tinted demographic will also sport such things.

b(l)ack aesthetics? Isn't that how Jews once ported their wealth?

Note the word 're-primitivisation'.

Tattoes, piercings, and now the back esthetics of the gold teeth - or how re-primitivisation is gathering speed.

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Conviction is the art of being certain

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